Is it legal to sell bait here? Would this be a good idea?

Hello everyone, I am a local teenager that wants to start selling bait once I am legally licensed. I have a few questions.

  1. There is a strip of marsh directly to the left of the Wappoo Cut Public Boat Landing (photo shown below).
    I want to start selling bait here.
    I looked at property lines and nobody owns this specific stretch of marsh nor is it part of the boat landing, so would it be legal assuming I have all of my licenses?

  2. Would this even be profitable if I were to sell minnows, shrimp, fiddlers, and mullet?
    I feel like it would be considering the heavy boat traffic in wappoo creek, but I am curious on others opinions.

Thanks!

Good questions kid, not sure anyone here has the info you are looking for, though. Maybe they do and will chime in, I’m not sure.

All you can do is keep asking questions and keep trying to figure it out, you’ll get it figured out, besides, it wont happen overnight.

Pulling for you! Keep us posted

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Im not sure either but all property belongs to someone, in this case its either the state or the county and you would need a permit for commercial business on public property . Being on the marsh could open a can of worms involving environmental studies etc. In today’s world that’s more of a probable once someone complains or the SCDNR notices. I think either asking the Parks and Recreation people about being a vendor or selling out of the back of a pickup and see what happens is a better route. I dont know the rules about selling out of a pickup like shrimp vendors do but I see it all the time. Its probably a gray area in the law.

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I bet having a skiff in the water near the ramp with bait tanks would be easier than getting approval to set up shop on land at the ramp.

Plus it would enable you to have tanks with circulating fresh seawater to keep the bait healthy. You would also be able to arrive early to go throw your net or check your minnow traps with that boat.

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There used to be a pontoon boat that did that in the harbor. Plus I doubt anyone would pull up to the bank in that area, I know I would n`t. Not sure he has a boat though.

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This is most likely what I am going to do once I save up the money for a Jon boat. In the meantime I’m gonna try something like what my posts says.

If you don’t mind me asking, what were the general areas that he was set up in?

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Yeah I was worried this would get dnr on me. Probably gonna try to do this off a boat eventually but I was thinking about selling off the side of the road. I just don’t know how I would get a supply of saltwater.

Sump pump and small generator

You are gonna need them anyway you do it

It`s been a long while but they were set up past the city marina. They also sold ice, drinks etc.

IMO, you should talk with the DNR about this and make sure that you have what you need to be legal as far as harvesting and selling baits. You may also need a business license from the state and possibly a county license too. It sounds like you might also need a “traders” license because you won’t have a specific, stationary location. Most business licenses are for a specific location, but for vendors who do mobile selling, like food trucks, there might be a special license for that. The thing is, violations can often result in fines too, and you cannot use the excuse that you didn’t know. That’s one of the things anyone who wants to start a business is responsible for, knowing & complying with laws & regs. I have a fishing tackle business, and I make flies & lures, and had the opportunity to buy some tanned bear hides from out of state. My plan was to use the hair, to make flies & jigs to sell. However, when I contacted the SCDNR and asked how I could obtain the hides and have them shipped here legally, found out there’s a law here in SC that essentially prohibits any commercial use of any parts of a bear. Had I not contacted the DNR, I would not have known that, as everything else I had read, none of it mentioned anything about such a law. The fine can get hefty, and better to ask up front than have an officer show up and write a citation and possibly arrest you, or confiscate your equipment and product. The thing is with that situation with bear hair, it’s not illegal to possess it, since there’s a hunting season, and use it for personal use, but anything that involves buying, selling, bartering or any other monetary value exchange, that’s what makes it illegal. It’s better to know the laws, than later find out the hard way and end up having to hire an attorney!

That’s some mighty sound advice there bigjim5589!!

Thanks for posting it here, and welcome back to the site!

I have a friend in Laurens who sells Squirrel tails to Mepps, who uses the hair from them in some of their tackle.

Thank you! I’ve been tying since the mid 60’s, and used to do a lot of Squirrel hunting. I have looked into what Mepps buys, but it was always more practical for me to just use the tails, or sell them to other tyers. When you start trying to make a business with anything involving fish & game, and all the different regulations that might apply, there can be a lot of them, and every state can have different laws. I grew up & lived in MD for many years, and there, they have laws pertaining to bears, but I never saw that the use of the hair was regulated, only as it applied to legally taking them. The hair is sold by many fly shops, and there’s plenty of flies & jigs sold that use it. But, here in SC, by how that law is worded, I cannot sell any flies or lures tied with it, even if I can prove I had acquired the hair legally. So, the point is, to making sure you’re operating within all laws that apply. I had the thought of selling minnows and worms years ago in MD, and local earthworms or night crawlers that I could dig up had no regulations at all that applied. MD does have laws that restrict importing any animal, or otherwise, so even that can apply. I was told by the MDDNR, that as far as trapping or netting minnows, there was no restriction, but I would need a bait traders license if I imported and sold wholesale to stores. That has more to do with invasive species than it does with fishing baits. The only other issue would have been with the young of gamefish, or any fish that had a seasonal or size limit applied to it, because some are not legal to sell at all, and size & creel limits still applied. So, all of this can be complex depending on the laws that might apply. I’ve also processed furs & such from trapping I did, and sold the fur as fly tying material, and that too can get into the letter of the laws. For example, Otter & beaver in MD, the raw fur had to be tagged, and could not be otherwise processed or disposed of without that tag, and that information recorded with the MD DNR. Other fur, if still raw, all I had to do was have it tanned or I could dye it and it was considered as processed and “manufactured” where the laws for raw fur no longer applied. SC has similar laws pertaining to fur trapping and fur buying. If I was to want to buy raw fur to process & use in my fishing tackle business, I would need a fur buyers license, but if it’s been tanned, there’s no requirement for having the license. So again, it all depends on the laws that might apply, and to start a business like the OP wants to do, he needs to make sure he’s compliant with all laws. BTW, I have a daughter in law, who has a Master’s Degree in International Compliance, and that’s what she does for the company she works for, makes sure they are operating within any laws that may apply to them doing business, no matter where in the world, and that can really get complicated. CA, now has a law that makes it illegal to buy or sell any “new” fur, but does allow selling “old” fur, such as old fur garments. The trouble is, it’s not really well defined what is “new” or what is “old”. I had some tanned fox tails listed on EBay, and a guy in CA tried to buy one for tying flies and I had to refund his payment, knowing it’s illegal to sell it there. He knew it too, but still tried! The risk would have been if it got reported to CA law enforcement, and then how the tails would be considered, as new or old. That’s not worth the risk to me. Also potentially, if a kid in CA kills several Squirrels hunting legally, and wants to sell the tails, and does, the kid could be breaking their laws, and may not even know it.

Aglia with squirrel tail is what my pap swore by.

First, I’d like to say I admire the OP’s entrepreneurial spirit - starting a business is a great thing, whether or not it fails the first time. It’s addictive and also one of the best ways to acquire wealth.

My 2c on selling from the bank, besides any regulations, is that if you don’t have a boat, remember that there is a 6 ft tide change so it will be near impossible to sell from the bank there without something that floats. Like Rap said, probably the best option would be to sell from a jon boat that is anchored. Otherwise you’re probably better to set up in the vicinity of the parking lot somewhere.

THe Charleston area is woefully short of live bait shops or options on or near the water compared to any serious fishing area. THey’re everywhere in Florida, Texas, and Louisiana. Even Lake Hartwell has several drive up bait shops (on the water and on shore) for live herring where they’ll fill your tank with the bait as you drive through. If you can get quality live bait, you should see if can cut a deal with a local marina to sell on their dock. That way you’d have water at the dock and a good customer base of boat and drive up traffic. The IOP marina had mud minnows for awhile on the dock, but no one has live shrimp, crabs, or live bait fish (like menhaden, mullet, etc) when the bait is inshore. I would be a good customer. Good luck.

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I looked it up that land is owned by that house there that had the pier running through it. Might want to check with them.

DNR will tell you that no one owns below the high water mark, even if it’s deeded. Sometimes Charleston County sheriff will agree with that and sometimes they won’t. You’ll get different answers depending on what LEO shows up unfortunately.

I wouldn’t sell bait there, that’s just me. I think it would be at the very least disrespectful to that home owner, especially considering he paid a premium to live there. Figure out how you can legally sell it on land from or near the landing. That’s your best best anyways if you don’t have a small skiff to sell from.