You guys are missing the point. Robert should have been able to keep this fish.
Capt. Steve Fralin
Ugly Ducklin Charters
The Longest Established Inshore Fishing Guide at Edisto
Edisto Island, SC 29438
843-869-1580
843-908-2071
http://www.edistofishingcharters.com
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Originally posted by uglyduckYou guys are missing the point. Robert should have been able to keep this fish.
Capt. Steve Fralin
Ugly Ducklin Charters
The Longest Established Inshore Fishing Guide at Edisto
Edisto Island, SC 29438
843-869-1580
843-908-2071
http://www.edistofishingcharters.com
We got the point, hopefully you will too…
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Originally posted by know it all(and the fishing reports section here is on life support)
So thats whats important.
I would think people besides me would think it’s pretty important. Especially if they owned or worked in businesses that relied on sportfishing activity in the community.
Why is anyone interested in a “fishing reports” website?
And who in their right minds would pay to advertise here?
I try to make a little side money selling fishing rigs, and it’s remarkable how when the C bass closure came up the rig sales shut off like a light switch. I’m just a small timer who’s going to speculate that reporting some other activity going on may be of benefit to others when it’s otherwise dead for sportfishing offshore Jan-April.
Of course, I could be wrong in assuming that about how sportfishing and $$$$$ works around here or assuming that it’s a bad thing for armchair QB’s to attack a businessman who posts a report here.
Try doing what he does for a living and being forced out of business… only to complain about it and then be attacked by people who only do it for fun. Just sayin.
Luke 8:22-25
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Originally posted by WolakrabA new device has recently hit the market:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5v9E-WvVhk
This prevents having to use a venting tool and is pretty much idiot-proof.“Never argue with an idiot…he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.”
That is awesome.
I have thought about rigging up something similar using 4lb test mono and a small wire hook that could be jerked loose from the fish once back to depth, and then the weight and tether could be brought back up separate from the fish that’s broken free.
The system in the video looks pretty good!
Luke 8:22-25
Is this the same one Poveromo talked about in his magazine? It’s got three preset release depth settings depending on how you deep you are fishing.
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Originally posted by WolakrabA new device has recently hit the market:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5v9E-WvVhk
This prevents having to use a venting tool and is pretty much idiot-proof.“Never argue with an idiot…he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.”
Cape Horn 24OS
twin 150 Optimax
I don’t want to be rich,
I just want 1 dollar more than I can spend!
Found another recompression tool.
Quite cheap, and I may have to give it a try. I’ll put the gopro on one of these and see how it works on some red snapper …
Looks like west marine made a deal with the original product’s makers. http://git-r-down.net/6.html
I think these guys are local, so we may want to help support their business if this thing works as advertised.
Luke 8:22-25
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Originally posted by brianhIs this the same one Poveromo talked about in his magazine? It’s got three preset release depth settings depending on how you deep you are fishing.
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Originally posted by WolakrabA new device has recently hit the market:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5v9E-WvVhk
This prevents having to use a venting tool and is pretty much idiot-proof.“Never argue with an idiot…he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.”
Cape Horn 24OS
twin 150 OptimaxI don’t want to be rich,
I just want 1 dollar more than I can spend!
Haven’t seen where you can buy one of these… have you?
I want to test these products out soon!
Luke 8:22-25
It was either on his tv show or the magazine or both. I will look for it. I think it’s still being tested and they are trying to sell the idea.
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Originally posted by Phinquote:
Originally posted by brianhIs this the same one Poveromo talked about in his magazine? It’s got three preset release depth settings depending on how you deep you are fishing.
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Originally posted by WolakrabA new device has recently hit the market:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5v9E-WvVhk
This prevents having to use a venting tool and is pretty much idiot-proof.“Never argue with an idiot…he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.”
Cape Horn 24OS
twin 150 OptimaxI don’t want to be rich,
I just want 1 dollar more than I can spend!
Haven’t seen where you can buy one of these… have you?
I want to test these products out soon!
www.scmarine.org
www.joinrfa.com
Luke 8:22-25
Cape Horn 24OS
twin 150 Optimax
I don’t want to be rich,
I just want 1 dollar more than I can spend!
6 bucks for this product.
It’d probably work great on smaller fish.
http://www.sheltonproducts.com/SFD.html
Luke 8:22-25
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Originally posted by Scoutin 4 GoodiesI hear what you boys are saying but this really seems like the best option…
DUCT TAPE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGh4pbrJoSY&feature=player_embedded
Just sayin…
Set the trap boys, we going to pass through them again!!
That is awesome…Sounds every day at Lowcountry Scuba, especially now that were next to a bar…HAHAHA the similarities are uncanny! I bet I know him too…
On another note, I am working on videos that are going to Mark Brown showing divers off Charleston underwater handling/pushing big snapper out of the way in order to push to the bottom and hunt smaller grouper, seabass, triggers, and HUGE lionfish…
I wonder if there is a correlation between the consistently decreasing body mass of game fish over the last 10 years, and consistently increasing body mass and distribution of an invasive species that competes on the same trophic level as our “disappearing” game fish??
No, no, its recreational fisherman’s fault…They are obviously responsible for the catching and killing of almost 7x more juvinile gamefish than they were 10 years ago…
OOORRRRRRRR, lionfish eat 7x more(already in published studies) than BSB and compete on the same trophic level so THEY are eating juvenile fish and cutting the population down from the ground up! Kind of sounds like an Obama trickle-up bailout plan, so naturally NOAA and REEF will pick up on the problem in 3-6 years and begin posting REAL (not rodeo’s once a year) commercial rewards for extermination in as SOON AS 10 years…By then it will be easy to catch Lionfish on hook and line too since they will be one of the only fish out there.
Just my $0.02, you gotta see it to believe it
www.lowcountryscuba.com
Pretty compelling, Vic.
The concern I have is that in our quest to do something about lionfish, we’re looking for evidence showing colapse of gamefish stocks. We do not have colapsed stocks as the government contends, and we’ve got to be careful to make a distinction between what is a true immediate threat to our fisheries and what the stocks of fish are. The government is much more capable of controling fishing effort through prohibitions than it is able to incentivize lionfish eradication.
Why should we look to the government to correct the situation anyway?
I think what you have tried to do with chefs and the diving community is the best way to approach the problem. We’ve only caught one lionfish this year, and we definately threw it in a bucket and broke its spines off on its way to the frying pan.
Oh- Consider that overpopulation also makes avg sizes decrease and reproduction occur in smaller sized fish as well… but it’s still related to lack of carrying capacity of the habitat, which is ultimately because of less food, which the lionfish are certainly becoming more and more responsible for as you point out.
I think there’s a combination of things taking place, and the biggest of causes is absolute mismanagement of species we fish for. There are some fish that are relatively overpopulated that are doing damage to the ecosystem as well. Lionfish are definately the #1 problem, though. I agree with you on that and hope more people realize it.
Do you know of any success anyone’s had in trapping lionfish???
We’ve got a couple million acres of live bottom off our coast, and I am not sure if divers can stem the tide. Do you think they can?
Looking forward to the videos.
Maybe one day management decisions will be based on evidence shown by fishermen and divers.
Luke 8:22-25
I figured I would take some slack for suggesting that our fisheries are weak. In fact your right, I’m seeing a higher level of biodiversity AND distribution on the livebottom out here. That can explain partly the generally decreasing individual body size.
Let me make it clear, our reefs here are not hurting, just adjusting to a new voracious predator. Its unfortunate the government lays the fault of this transition on recreational fisherman. The only reason the government needs to be involved is $$ for government divers to and NOAA to do some real research.
The private market is booming, so an individual with some time and a nice boat could make a living killing and selling right now. Unfortunately I can’t see a way other than diving yet (we should meet and figure it out, there’s going to be some $$ in it). They just get a certain size and take over a spot to keep clean, hang out, eat, grow and blow sperm/eggs into the water. They are NOT super hunters, catching one on H+L just means you lucked out and happened to put lead RIGHT ON their “area,” which seems to be dependent on fish size. They run for cover in lobster holes when you push them of their mark or miss a shot… but really don’t go after bait, you gotta throw a spear in the hole to get them out.
Fish growth, survival, and therefore size is a pretty simple game of odds. The odds for survival decrease exponentially as fish continue through their life stages, mostly as a result of a loss of biomass, as their broadcast type spawning almost guarantees a less than 10% success rate. The odds of survival as time goes on is almost the same slope for BSB, grouper, and snapper. Lionfish are killing 7x more eggs and juvenile fish at the earliest stages in the growth, which start those odds off with a VERY small real number of individuals. Fish are growing and surviving at the same speed/slope as they always were, the difference is now there are 7x less babies to even TRY to grow since they are eliminated before the “research” ever takes place. So