It was too bad that we did not have a few others with us this morning. Please post your pics under this thread or send me a pm if you would like the email address of the reporter so you can send your stories and photos directly to him. We need to let the powers that be know about this situation.
Even jonboats have problems.
Small boats waiting for the tide to come up enough to get to the ramp.
The trail in the mud shows the flat we crossed 5 minutes earlier. That day we only had to sit about an hour to get in…poor planning on a minus tide.
I know that some of you have much better shots. Please contribute a few of your best ones that might help to illustrate our problem at low tide. Thanks to all who help.
PioneerLouie
Pioneer Venture 175, Johnson 90
Summerville, SC
C’mon peeps! Does anyone care about this or what? If you care about the Bushy Park landing we really need your help with this…pics and stories will really help the reporter out with this story.
Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated by all.
PioneerLouie
Pioneer Venture 175, Johnson 90
Summerville, SC
I posted the original Save Busy Park about 5 or 6 years ago with a letter to send off to State officials to try to get some attention to the problem. I have even argued with Tugted about cause and effect. I have launched boats there before the ramps were built although I used 4-wheel drive then.
Just look at any NOAA chart from the 80’s or early 90’s and see 20 to 25 feet of water at mean LOW tide. That is why Berkeley County put in the ramps and docks.
I have plenty of photos from last year and this spring if someone wants to give me their email address. I am not going to try and post them all to this forum. Sorry I missed the event this past Sunday, had I known, I would have been there with old charts and a zip drive with photos for the reporter.
In my opinion, and having worked on multiple dredging projects from Virginia to South Florida, and the Gulf after Katrina, you need to convince Berkeley county to move on the permit and pressure them to move forward in this area. This permit will be State and Federal meaning OCRM and the Corps. Part of the permit will be a hydrographic survey of the existing channel bottom, and likely a sediment analysis by a testing agency to determine the level of contamination of the sediment. For ease, just go ahead and assume that there will be some level of contamination. Then you have to fill out all of the permit paperwork and red tape before it sits in front of the permit agencies for at least 6 months (often times much longer). The army corps is not just going to go in and dredge the area because we want them to.
I am designing and permitting a boat landing right now. There is no dredging involved, but you would not believe the permit work involved. Trust me and pressure the county to start there. As a ballpark, you are probably looking at 12-18,000 dollars for survey, engineering, permitting, and testing. That is just to get the permit.
i draft 7" and i have had to push through the mud 2 hrs after the incoming started. It is bad depending on the moon. About 2 months ago I was coming in and could see the visible line where it was shallow and deep my depth finder read 30ft, 6ft, .5ft in about a 20 yd span. It was about 10 yds across with water the rest was mud. I had to put my troll to the dock in a 1 ft deep channel, then trailer my boat with a rope. that was 2 hrs after low tide. I really hope we can get that fixed since I almost fish bushy exclusively
INTRODUCTION
In coastal engineering practice, strong flows generated by vessel propulsion
systems (propellers and water jets) are known to cause significant impact to
aquatic habitat, re-suspension of contaminated sediments and loading on
nearshore structures. These strong currents affect the quality of sediments in
marine industrial areas, and in some cases are the design conditions for bank and
slope protection near marine terminals. These common engineering problems
motivated the development and testing of the 3D, non-hydrostatic free-surface
Vessel Hydrodynamics Propwash Unsteady (VH-PU) model. The model
simulates these vessel-induced flows and bottom and bank stability subjected to
ship propeller jets. Most of the known propeller wash models (Blaauw and Kaa,
1978; Fuehrer et al., 1987; Hamill, 1988; Verhey, 1983; Shepsis and Simpson,
2001) use the self-similar dependencies for a stationary jet in an unbounded
domain, corrected for bottom effects. The present model describes unsteady,
three-dimensional fields of velocities generated by ship propellers, turbulence
intensity and length scale in the given domain of arbitrary bottom and coastal
topography. The temporally and spatially varying bottom shear stresses that
caused bottom erosion and damage to bottom habitat are calculated, as well as
forces due to pressures on submerged boundaries. The model was developed on
the basis of the non-hydrostatic model of Kanarska and Maderich (2003).
Wow. You googled prop wash and now you are a coastal engineer. I’m impressed. I, however, am a coastal engineer. So let me present my hypothesis. Please note that without extensive research it is only a guess, based on about 15 years worth of practical experience.
When they impounded the adjacent reservoir directly across from the saltwater side they restricted the natural tidal flow of the river. So the natural “flushing velocity” was essentially eliminated. So basically now the saltwater landing sits in a basin or bowl of sorts with minimal flow velocity which is based on tidal flow and minimal head pressure. All water has particles in it. Even our drinking water. As the basin fills up, particles settle out. With no flow to flush the particles away, it keeps filling up, settling out, filling up…Do tugs stir up particles? oh heck yea. Is the volume of particles that a tug displaces in the river (that has a flushing velocity) significant enough to cause the siltation in the basin? Maybe. Is it any more significant that they guy who burns his impeller up? Maybe, but doubtful.
narcosis- it’s awful coincidental that the build up in the affected area coincided with the increase in upriver tug/commercial boat traffic.
or do you think that the siltation is caused by the increase in recreational angler useage due to population increase over the same time span?
i’m not at all impressed with your degree- or the way you talked down to quarterpound.
theory and book learning doesn’t always = real world cause and effect.
Do I think the tugs and barges going to Nucor have helped silt in the landing, yes, do I think that is the only problem no. but I think we can find an answer and get the funding to get this great facility dredged out. All you have to do is watch one tug / barge combo make the corner by bushy park and you will see the “push” of water from behind the tug go up into the landing. We need more support to get this done, make phone calls, Email, text, what ever it takes to make this happen.
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NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
Anyone please let me know what I can do to help as this is the landing I’ve found that I really like. It IS really shallow even 2 hrs after low, I try to creep in and out of there for fear of getting stuck.
