You have a hull that is essentially flat in the rear 1/3. It is not a sports car (e.g. Porsche) that will go where you point it. With that flat butt, she will likely slide sideways a lot and grab an edge as she hits waves. All of that is normal. How is your ‘squirlly’ different from that?
17’ Henry O Hornet
26’ Palmer Scott
I’ve run a good few “flat” bottom boats, I understand the slide sideways maybe squirly wasn’t a good description.
This thing on plain with weight aft on a slight turn will actually dip hard and if not holding on would more than likely chunk you out the boat. Guessing only a 1/4 of hull is in water… it that. Put weight up front and turn it as hard as you want. This boat doesn’t even slide in a turn like most flat bottoms will.
that is the good hull
I owned one with a 70 Yamaha 2 stroke
ran great, but would definitely slide, and catch if you weren’t expecting it
adding some keel strips helps ALOT
that is the good hull
I owned one with a 70 Yamaha 2 stroke
ran great, but would definitely slide, and catch if you weren’t expecting it
adding some keel strips helps ALOT
Is it porpising up and down? If so, put a couple of sandbags in the bow and it will stop. We have a 19’ Carolina with a 115 hp on it for oystering, will run 52 mph with no oysters and 36 with 50 bushels on it.
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Oyster Baron
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
Is it porpising up and down? If so, put a couple of sandbags in the bow and it will stop. We have a 19’ Carolina with a 115 hp on it for oystering, will run 52 mph with no oysters and 36 with 50 bushels on it.
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Oyster Baron
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
Sell’s, it’s not porposing. just when on plan topped out with too much weight aft it will “dip” and “grab” terrible if you make a left or right turn. I’ve found a fuel tank that will mount under the bow, moving the CC and seat a few inches forward and putting battery up front. Also going to build a platform to start gigging… or at least try to gig.
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Sell's, it's not porposing. just when on plan topped out with too much weight aft it will "dip" and "grab" terrible if you make a left or right turn.
That dangerous characteristic is called “chine tripping”. It is common with flat bottom hard chine boats and is a matter of hull design and speed. Not really much you can do about it other than slow down in turns, especially if there is any cross chop. The older CS are well known for that quirk, most of the newer models have a modified double chine to prevent it. Do a google search on Carolina Skiff chine tripping.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
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Sell's, it's not porposing. just when on plan topped out with too much weight aft it will "dip" and "grab" terrible if you make a left or right turn.
That dangerous characteristic is called “chine tripping”. It is common with flat bottom hard chine boats and is a matter of hull design and speed. Not really much you can do about it other than slow down in turns, especially if there is any cross chop. The older CS are well known for that quirk, most of the newer models have a modified double chine to prevent it. Do a google search on Carolina Skiff chine tripping.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
Thanks Cracker. After searching that, I believe that is what I have going on. The poling platform is a bit heavy but I like it. I believe moving weight forward will be the cure to my problem.
moving the weight really isn’t going to much for you
for lack of a better term, your are losing “traction” in the turn, then the chine digs, and that’s what makes the violent lurch.
to fix the problem, you have to improve the traction
jon boats don’t have the same issue because they have strakes from front to back that act like skegs and improve traction
if you look at the chine on your boat, it protrudes down at the front 2/3’s of the hull, and then stops short of the transom
that lack of protrusion is what makes the hull slide
if you add 2 strips about 3 feet long and 1 inch tall triangle shaped skegs to the bottom of the hull, starting at the transom going forward, and about 8" in from the chine, you will dramatically improve your traction.
moving the weight really isn’t going to much for you
for lack of a better term, your are losing “traction” in the turn, then the chine digs, and that’s what makes the violent lurch.
to fix the problem, you have to improve the traction
jon boats don’t have the same issue because they have strakes from front to back that act like skegs and improve traction
if you look at the chine on your boat, it protrudes down at the front 2/3’s of the hull, and then stops short of the transom
that lack of protrusion is what makes the hull slide
if you add 2 strips about 3 feet long and 1 inch tall triangle shaped skegs to the bottom of the hull, starting at the transom going forward, and about 8" in from the chine, you will dramatically improve your traction.
Did some searching on “chine tripping” after Cracker brought it up. I feel pretty sure that is what I have going on.
Chris, thanks for that input! After searching, seems a lot of Carolina Skiff owners have had some of the same issues. Now to figure out the best way to add skegs to the hull.
TACO makes a spray rail that can be easily modified, and use 5200 and screws
I have also used epoxy encapsulated wood. then epoxy and screw the strips to the hull
