Covid Round 2

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There’s not going to be but one thing to fix all this mess. I believe that sman said it best in three words.
PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!!!
Every one of our congressman and senators need to be dragged out tared and feathered. Replaced by a true a working person.
Someone who has had to scrape their change up to get gas to go to work.
Someone who has had to put their thumb out to get to work because they could not afford parts to fix their truck.
Someone who works 70-80 hours a week to keep a roof over their families head.
someone who has had to go into work with broken bones/ sick because they could not afford to miss a day’s pay.
Been there done that have that t-shirt. And (**() proud of it.

And there’s a whole hell of a lot of people out there that have earned that t-shirt also.

We need to stand up and take this country back.

I am fragile. Not like a flower. But like a bomb.

22 life’s a day

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You nailed it brother!

Was watching a vid of Marcus and Morgan Lutrell with my son earlier and their opinion was clean house, term limits, and require previous military Service for Congress.

BTW, they have spent time in DC. Got to know some folk’s and said if $100,000,000 was dropped on sidewalk, it’s just Bill dust.

NN

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It’s not a vaccine just like the flu shot is not a vaccine, it’s a shot. One that you must take annually for it to work, and to enrich big pharma.

Everything that’s being done is based on the PCR test. The WHO has finally admitted that the PCR test isn’t valid and that it produces a high rate of false positives.

The PCR test, what’s considered the “gold standard” of SARS-Cov-2 tests, results in false positives — this is what the World Health Organization (finally) admits in their December 14 report. According to the report:

“The design principle of RT-PCR means that for patients with high levels of circulating virus (viral load), relatively few cycles will be needed to detect virus and so the Ct value will be low. Conversely, when specimens return a high Ct value, it means that many cycles were required to detect virus. In some circumstances, the distinction between background noise and actual presence of the target virus is difficult to ascertain.”

That PCR tests have exceptionally high false result rates is something that experts have already been warning the public of, even in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic. The higher the cycle threshold (CT), i.e., the number of amplification cycles used to detect RNA particles, the greater the chances of a false positive. Yet the CDC still recommends running PCR tests at a CT of 40 — even though anything over 35 should be deemed scientifically unjustifiable.

So why is WHO now pointing out this glaring flaw of the PCR test?

A commentary posted on ZeroHedge explains why: It’s simply to back up the claim that the COVID-19 vaccine “works.”

Once everyone has received the vaccination, per the new WHO guidelines, PCR tests will run only 25 to 30 cycles instead of more than 35. The cases of false positives will significantly drop, giving the illusion that the vaccine is working. The article notes:

“After months of flooding the data pool with false positives, miscounting deaths ‘by accident,” adding ‘COVD-19 related death’ t

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The true definition of a false positive is when there is no form of the virus detected. The higher PCR amplification can result in detecting dead viruses, and very small viral loads… This means the person previously had Covid (asymptomatic or symptomatic), but doesn’t anymore… Therefore, the positive test result really does mean it was another legitimate case, but the person had it previously…

https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/11/pcr-test-result

"We define a false positive as a test result that incorrectly indicates that a particular condition or attribute is present. By that definition, no, your test was almost certainly not a false positive. The PCR test used by MIT, like other PCR tests, is very unlikely to return a false positive. If the test comes back positive, we can be sure that it has correctly detected genetic material from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the virus that causes COVID-19.

But might PCR tests be too good at finding traces of the virus? That’s a question scientists are starting to investigate.

The PCR test analyzes samples by amplifying viral RNA in cycles. Most tests, like the Broad Institute test used by MIT, use a 40-cycle protocol. If the virus isn’t detected within 40 amplification cycles, the test result is negative. If viral RNA is detected in 40 cycles or less, the PCR machine stops running, and the test is positive. Because you received a positive result, we know that the test detected the virus in your sample by the time it reached its 40-cycle limit."

If we want to falsely presume the cases are way over blown, then we must accept the death rate is way to low as well, since the death rate is easily determinable as it is “symptomatic” cases of covid… Simple math…

RBF
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The true definition of a false positive is when there is no form of the virus detected. The higher PCR amplification can result in detecting dead viruses, and very small viral loads… This means the person previously had Covid (asymptomatic or symptomatic), but doesn’t anymore… Therefore, the positive test result really does mean it was another legitimate case, but the person had it previously…

https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/11/pcr-test-result

"We define a false positive as a test result that incorrectly indicates that a particular condition or attribute is present. By that definition, no, your test was almost certainly not a false positive. The PCR test used by MIT, like other PCR tests, is very unlikely to return a false positive. If the test comes back positive, we can be sure that it has correctly detected genetic material from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the virus that causes COVID-19.

But might PCR tests be too good at finding traces of the virus? That’s a question scientists are starting to investigate.

The PCR test analyzes samples by amplifying viral RNA in cycles. Most tests, like the Broad Institute test used by MIT, use a 40-cycle protocol. If the virus isn’t detected within 40 amplification cycles, the test result is negative. If viral RNA is detected in 40 cycles or less, the PCR machine stops running, and the test is positive. Because you received a positive result, we know that the test detected the virus in your sample by the time it reached its 40-cycle limit."

Not completely correct.

The PCR test will detect any SARS type virus particles, including dead ones. There are many SARS type viruses that are not COVID. That means that there are many people being told they are positive for COVID that have never had that strain.

That is what’s been stated by experts in the medical community and was clearly stated months ago by the person that invented the te

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Incorrect, the tests target the SARS-CoV-2 virus which is Covid-19…

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/animals/animal-testing.html#:~:text=The%20scientific%20name%20of%20the,-CoV-2.

Note: The scientific name of the new strain of coronavirus is SARS-CoV-2. In people, the disease caused by the virus is called Coronavirus Disease 2019, also known as COVID-19. Because we are addressing the virus itself in the context of animal health, we refer to it as SARS-CoV-2.

Here is the testing statement from above:

“If the test comes back positive, we can be sure that it has correctly detected genetic material from the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the virus that causes COVID-19.”

RBF
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So what happened to the Flu this year?

Hype, Hype, and more Hype on the wuhan bug.

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Here is a full report. What you have said is absolutely incorrect. The WHO stated that the test will results in a high degree of false positives in their December 14 report.

For those that don’t want to read the report here are a few quotes.

  • The test does not target Covid, it targets coronavirus particles, that includes the common cold.
  • "the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, repeatedly yet unsuccessfully stressed that this test should not be used as a diagnostic tool for the simple reason that it’s incapable of diagnosing disease. A positive test does not actually mean that an active infection is present. As noted in a U.S. Centers for D
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Here’s a more reliable covid test…

Home Covid Test:

  1. Open a can of beer and try to smell it.
  2. If you can smell the beer, drink it to see if you can taste it.
  3. If you can smell it and taste it, this confirms that you don’t have the Covid.

Last night, I did the test 19 times and all were negative. Tonight, I am going to do the test again because this morning I woke up with a headache and I feel like I’m coming down with something.

I am so nervous.

Not my story but it sounds like good medical advice.

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Yep I’m with you on that.
But you know these CF Doctors are going to dispute your science.

I am fragile. Not like a flower. But like a bomb.

22 life’s a day

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Here is a full report. What you have said is absolutely incorrect. The WHO stated that the test will results in a high degree of false positives in their December 14 report.

For those that don’t want to read the report here are a few quotes.

  • The test does not target Covid, it targets coronavirus particles, that includes the common cold.
  • “the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, repeatedly yet unsuccessfully stressed that this test should not be used as a diagnostic tool for the simple reason that it’s incapable of diagnosing disease. A positive test does not actually mean that an active infection is present. As noted in a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and prevention publication on coronavirus and PCR testing dated July 13 2020.”
  • The, “PCR tests have proven remarkably unreliable with high false result rates, and aren’t designed to be used as a diagnostic tool in the first place as they cannot distinguish between inactive viruses and “live” or reproductive ones.”
  • “An “infection” is when a virus penetrates into a cell and replicates. As the virus multiplies, symptoms set in. A person is only infectious if the virus is actually replicating. As long as the virus is inactive and not replicating, it’s completely harmless both to the host and others.”
  • “if you have no symptoms, a positive test simply means it has detected inactive viral DNA in your body. This would also mean that you are not contagious and pose no risk to anyone.”
  • “The test’s threshold is so high that it detects people with the live virus as well as those with a few genetic fragments left over from a past infection that no longer poses a risk. It’s like finding a hair in a room after a person left it, says Michael Mina, MD, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.”
  • "the CDC’s own calculations show it’s extremely unlikely to detect live viruses in samples that have gone through more than 33 cycles, and research10 published in April 2020 concluded patients wi
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Geez, c’mon Uncle Nutz… Even RBF knows you have to drink 24 before you’ll have a case of Corona…

Hope you folks are doing well, and Merry CHRISTmas!

RBF
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Here is a full report. What you have said is absolutely incorrect. The WHO stated that the test will results in a high degree of false positives in their December 14 report.

For those that don’t want to read the report here are a few quotes.

  • The test does not target Covid, it targets coronavirus particles, that includes the common cold.
  • "the inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis, repeatedly yet unsuccessfully stressed that this test should not be used as a diagnostic tool for the simple reason that it’s incapable of diagnosing disease. A positive test does not actually mean that an active infection is present. As noted in a U.S. Center
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Haha, I guess you didn’t read my reply… All this is made up nonsense and I proved it…

You are the one with the name calling and F-bombing… Some folks just have a hard time with cold hard facts…

RBF
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Neurologist tells me I need to have surgery on my neck.
Maybe I can post my MRIs on here and one of you doctors can give me a 2nd opinion

I am fragile. Not like a flower. But like a bomb.

22 life’s a day

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I already know what the problem is… Your sphincter is wrapped too tight around your neck…

:smiley:

RBF
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I’d say you’re getting ready to blow a gasket…:smiley:

BOB
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More likely it is the O-Ring…

RBF
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Hey Bob, when are you going to take me Crappie fishing with you…:smiley:

RBF
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If we do a few twists the RBFs and Village Idiots won’t notice and besides they’ll swallow anything since they’re all in on Chinese propaganda

https://www.aier.org/article/who-deletes-naturally-acquired-immunity-from-its-website/

and they’ll believe anything their false prophet says

Meg Tirrell (@megtirrell) Tweeted:
Dr Fauci’s estimate for reaching herd immunity has been steadily inching up, @nytimes’ Donald McNeil Jr reports. Fauci told us at last week’s @CNBC #HealthyReturns that it may be 75-85%. https://t.co/j18nUYZ3cV https://t.co/hIKewMAFim