Cow horn or spike horn

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Originally posted by Skeeter22

Agreed!!!

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Originally posted by salty849
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Originally posted by dixiedeerslaya

what are you using to determine that the deer in the pic is the same one you have seen on trailcam the last three years? what kind of characteristics are you going by to know its the same deer? just curious.


Im very familiar with truck tailgates and judging by the one in that picture that deer isn’t 2 months past his 1.5yr birthday. This is the biggest excuse making thread Ive ever seen, 23 thank you for this truthful statement that dead deer in the picture is a young immature buck. If you want to grow decent bucks, quit shooting the babies.


2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101


Don’t come all up in here agreeing with folks when you shot a ratty 3.5yr old 8pt last night…

I’m impressed with the way you guys can estimate the age. Also I respect what you are trying to do.Get some nice bucks .When I still hunted,I never wanted to shoot a doe or small buck.I was always afraid I would mess up my chances of getting a big buck if I was shooting all the time.What do you guys think,will shooting does and smaller bucks ruin a chance at a trophy buck ? Also 23 , the 5000 acre may help but some dummy would still turn loose right on the edge of the property and not be able to control the dogs.The solution is the GPS collars with shock collars attached.People still have to learn how to preplan drives also.It can be done properly ,I just hope everyone will wise up and learn.

God bless the “ignore” function.

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Originally posted by 23Sailfish

And I also think dog hunting should be restricted to private tracks of land of 5000 acres or more. But that’s my opinion.

“Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality.” --Peepod 07-25-2017


Believe it or not I agree with you. I just don’t want to see it banned all together. I’d be good with 2500 acres if running small beagles.

edit … smans right someone would turn loose right on the border. Dad always said that Fences make good neighbors.

“Why Bruce?”

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Originally posted by 23Sailfish
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Originally posted by Fred67

[quote]Originally posted by 23Sailfish


I’ve been hunting for 15 years. The first twelve I was clueless as to what I was doing and why I wasn’t seeing the big bucks like others were. I’d shoot a doe and a small buck each year and be happy enough about it. The last three years, I’ve been researching and studying QDM and its applicability towards small tracts of land, which I own. I have 50 acres and while most people think that you can’t practice any sort of quality on that small of a piece, I disagree. I personally have made several little changes to my property and have seen the deer and turkey population thrive in comparison to where it was.

I personally know Polyball. He has been nothing but kind and helpful and resourceful to me…but I also treated him with respect and asked his opinion time and time again on management practices. He had no reason to help me, but he did. I think MOST people on this website fall into that category; its fun to be sarcastic on CF.com as its a form of entertainment for most, but when it comes down to it, most of these guys would give you the shirt off their back. At least that’s been my experience. I hope we never lose that. And I realize you might not like his political views, (I don’t personally agree with many political views of most on this website), but that doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change the fact that he has decades of experience in serious quality deer management. If you ever had the pleasure of seeing his place and understanding the level of effort that goes into not just creating it, but maintaining it, you’d be amazed.

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Bang stick ,I don’t think you’re going to get a response. I kinda feel sorry for him,it was like watching the Baltimore Colts play the Baptist College.Reelshock ,if you are out there,please unload the hate and bitterness.Its unhealthy.Heck, I have many tickets written against me, I just pay em and go forward.Its not worth it to get worked up about the new laws ,can’t do anything about it.Get friends and family to help control the does if you really need to.

At least we agree on something: Reelshock’s buck is likely a 1.5 year old deer that should have been left to live another two years.
Dont argue that i dont know hw old the deer is, i have seen very simalar if nt the same deer fr a while.

Now that we can get back to the questions at hand.
What is the best meathod of cataloging deer you see/photo?
Why do yu use 3 years as a time frame? Dont bucks start breeding ahead of that?

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Originally posted by bangstick

That’s a stud of an 8pt, 23!! Night time pictures can be a little misleading but I’d say that fella is 4.5. Either way, good buck!

God bless the “ignore” function.


I think he’s actually maybe 5.5. I’ve got pictures of him going back to 2015 where he looked big and mature. He was an eight the last two seasons, but this year he has a ninth point kicker on one side. He’ll be a stud hanging on the wall if I ever get a clean shot on him. I’ve only ever seen him with my eyes once, and he was deep in thick brush and didn’t want to risk it.

Maybe this is the year.

“Another poon dream splintered on the rocks of reality.” --Peepod 07-25-2017

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Originally posted by 23Sailfish

I’ve only ever seen him with my eyes once, and he was deep in thick brush and didn’t want to risk it.


With a buck like that he didn’t get where he is from being dumb, your best chance will be during rut when they all go stupid, or a dog drive. :wink::smiley:

I’ll take a stab and say if you get him it will be mid morning and he’ll be in full rut.

“Why Bruce?”

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Originally posted by salty849
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Originally posted by Skeeter22

Agreed!!!

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Originally posted by salty849
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Originally posted by dixiedeerslaya

what are you using to determine that the deer in the pic is the same one you have seen on trailcam the last three years? what kind of characteristics are you going by to know its the same deer? just curious.


Im very familiar with truck tailgates and judging by the one in that picture that deer isn’t 2 months past his 1.5yr birthday. This is the biggest excuse making thread Ive ever seen, 23 thank you for this truthful statement that dead deer in the picture is a young immature buck. If you want to grow decent bucks, quit shooting the babies.


2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101


Don’t come all up in here agreeing with folks when you shot a ratty 3.5yr old 8pt last night…


New flash for you…this is SC. Not Alberta, Canada. 180lbs buck in SC is a good deer in comparison to a 80lbs spike. I like big antlers the same as everyone, but it aint the only thing about deer hunting. BTW, I have a Nightforce on the 300 Win Mag now. I like it, but it still is no better than my VX6. And, it is

Cry me a river Skeeter, this is the internet, if you cant take a little jab here and there log off and go find a safe space. This may not be Alberta but that doesn’t negate the fact that that deer is not mature, even at “180lbs”. Some people enjoy killing ratty little deer, that’s cool, glad your not my neighbor and you only have 5 tags. And I may be an A$$ hole but at least I’m not an idiot, I always have that going for me. Now, take that night force off, beat that POS leupold into a pile of scrap with the NF, and put it back on, bet it shoots the same spot.

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Originally posted by salty849

Cry me a river Skeeter, this is the internet, if you cant take a little jab here and there log off and go find a safe space. This may not be Alberta but that doesn’t negate the fact that that deer is not mature, even at “180lbs”. Some people enjoy killing ratty little deer, that’s cool, glad your not my neighbor and you only have 5 tags. And I may be an A$$ hole but at least I’m not an idiot, I always have that going for me. Now, take that night force off, beat that POS leupold into a pile of scrap with the NF, and put it back on, bet it shoots the same spot.


And, GFY!

2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101

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Originally posted by ReelShock

At least we agree on something: Reelshock’s buck is likely a 1.5 year old deer that should have been left to live another two years.
Dont argue that i dont know hw old the deer is, i have seen very simalar if nt the same deer fr a while.

Now that we can get back to the questions at hand.
What is the best meathod of cataloging deer you see/photo?
Why do yu use 3 years as a time frame? Dont bucks start breeding ahead of that?


As much as I want to laugh at you for asking for assistance, turning on those that tried to give it to you and then asking for assistance from those same people again, I’m not going to.

Cataloging bucks and keeping up with trail camera pictures isn’t easy and it is very time consuming, depending on how detailed and accurate you want to be. Doing this isn’t for the casual deer hunter. It’s typically a practice of serious deer/property managers because it demands more time than the average hunter wants to put into it. for the average hunter, I would recommend devoting more time to getting proficient at field judging a deer’s age on the hoof. Being able to do that will probably serve the average hunter better than establishing a buck catalog system. Hardcore deer/property managers that have developed and maintain a catalog spend just as much time (if not more) rifling through and organizing pictures of bucks in front of a computer as they do actually hunting. I say all of that to say first and foremost, you have to ask yourself how committed to this do you want to get.

Before anyone feels like I’m violating their safe space, I’m not meaning anything negative or derogative when I say “average hunter.” The overwhelming majority of us are “average hunters” simply looking to spend some time afield enjoying the sport of hunting.

I don

dang salty… you need to get laid or something… your friends call you " the legend "?

" It is what it is".

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Originally posted by SCARCHER220

dang salty… you need to get laid or something… your friends call you " the legend "?

" It is what it is".


Nah man, just speaking a little truth, if it offends folks it is what it is. The folks on here that know me will tell you I not all that bad.

hey fred,i like to make predictions also. I say 23 will get that buck early in the evening before full rut.he wont go near the corn but will show himself briefly.So 23 ,get there early and be ready.