Same here…I like the intent and I will definately follow the spirit of he law. Although, for me personally, I may also technically be breaking parts of the law as written. ( ie… I will follow a boat limit of 5 x (# of people fishing), but I am not going to keep track of who caught how many).
It will be interesting to hear it straight from DNR tomorrow night as to how they interpit the law as written and more importantly, how they will be enforcing it.
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We got rained out of the meeting … did anyone go and if so how was it?
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We went to the meeting (and joined the Midland Stripes Club which should be neat) and fortunately the rain eased off just a little bit before the meeting started. DNR explained that nothing has really changed other than from 1 June to end of September, an angler may only catch, or attempt to catch, 5 fish, and there are no size restrictions. They also pointed out that this is not any revenue raising attempt by DNR, but it is an effort to protect and improve the fishery, largely motivated by comments and observations over the years by the MSC. DNR also acknowledged that they recognize the difference between the “accidental” catching of one to many fish as opposed to the cold blooded intent on catching more. The catching, or possession, of fish, per the active creel limits, is the same as it has always been, and DNR asked if this has been a problem in the past. While typically they just check fish caught and licences, it is still an infraction of the law for an individual angler to catch or possess more than established individual limits.
That’s what I think I heard. Others present may have gleaned some more.
Cool, sorry we missed the opportunity to meet and join … Thanks for the report
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Did they actually say that is an infraction to catch anything over the legal limit? That seems tough considering you can’t control what bites your line.
Ever try bottom fishing and NOT catch something that was over your legal limit. Or shark fishing charters when you can only keep one but easily catch 4-5.
An infraction occurs when one is deliberately attempting to catch over the legal limit. There is no problem utilizing multiple rods, umbrella rigs, etc as long as the attempt is to catch the “next” fish. If one “accidentally” catches over the limit, such as when multiple rods go down at the same time or one has quit striper fishing and moved to another area to try and catch a different species and a striper rudely takes your crappie jig, DNR is not going to nail you to the wall. While they’re not bogey men, they’re also not dumb and can usually tell the difference about what’s going on.
Pattianne
Thanks for attending the meeting it was a pleasure to have ya’ll join us.
To expand a little further it also does not matter whether the angler keeps or releases the fish, once you reach a total of 5 fish per individual angler you are done. As far as fishing multiple rods or using u-rigs or a-rigs it is still ok to have them out but once you catch the 5th fish you have reached your creel limit. If you happen to have multiple hits or two fish on an a-rig you can keep or release anything up to your 5th fish but all others must be released and you must cease fishing for stripers. Where you will get into trouble is if you are seen rebaiting and putting the lines back out. Also it bears reminding that the penalties and fines for striper violations have been increased to a maximum fine of $470.00 per infraction and 12 points.
Crusher…Lake Murray is quickly becoming quite a catfishing destination. If you cutbait fish for stripers just go shallower for cats.
You can catch largemouth in June on topwater along side stripers. So if I keep throwing my plug after catching 5 stripers, they can cite me for targeting stripers when I am fishing for largemouth? Why would I have to move? I have caught largemouth in the same location as stripers.
@Curly Dog … when and where is your next meeting?
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Originally posted by GeronimoYou can catch largemouth in June on topwater along side stripers. So if I keep throwing my plug after catching 5 stripers, they can cite me for targeting stripers when I am fishing for largemouth? Why would I have to move? I have caught largemouth in the same location as stripers.
DNR made it clear last night that it’s a matter of intent and common sense. If you are throwing bass plugs and are incidentally catching stripers you’re OK. A DNR officer can get a pretty good idea what you are targeting by looking at your gear. But if you’re catching a striper on every cast you might want to move down the bank a bit because you are obviously sitting on a school of stripers.
Lawcrusher - We hold meetings the second Tuesday of the month at 7:00 in the evening at the Flight Deck restaurant in Lexington. The next one will be August 14th. Every meeting has some type of informative presentation. Anything from cut bait strategies to trailer maintenance. The meetings are open to the public and you’re more than welcome to come check it out first to see if it suits you.
It’s a great club with a a lot of fun folks. Very laid back.
I was afraid that the storms yesterday evening would hurt attendance. Tim and Crusher, I’m sorry the rain changed your plans. I was really looking forward to seeing y’all. We still had 90 folks in the room, great turnout! It was great to meet the pattianne crew and I’m delighted that they joined the club. The folks from DNR were very professional, as always. I’m glad that they took the time to explain why the regulations were put in place and that the rules that they are enforcing really aren’t new. There never has been a “Captain’s limit”. Previously, if an angler was observed keeping more than 5 stripers as an individual, they were subject to a citation, as now. The big difference in the summer months now is that after 5 stripers, either kept or released, you are done targeting stripers and must not handle the rod while taking additional stripers. Also covered was the fishing day begins one half hour before sunrise and ends one half hour before sunrise the next day. You may take one limit per fishing day. The practice of catching a limit and taking them to the hill and returning for another limit during the same fishing day is illegal. Once an angler has caught 5 stripers it is time to target a different species. The officers are not stupid and if you stay in the same spot and continue to catch stripers after reaching your quota you won’t convince them that now your catfishing. This is not some new revenue producing ploy that DNR has master minded. Rather, it is designed to stop the needless waste of the resource and was put in place at the request of striper clubs and other fishermen involved in the stakeholder meetings. Let’s give the new regulations some time before passing judgment.
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Originally posted by dernflatlanderI was afraid that the storms yesterday evening would hurt attendance. Tim and Crusher, I’m sorry the rain changed your plans. I was really looking forward to seeing y’all. We still had 90 folks in the room, great turnout! It was great to meet the pattianne crew and I’m delighted that they joined the club. The folks from DNR were very professional, as always. I’m glad that they took the time to explain why the regulations were put in place and that the rules that they are enforcing really aren’t new. There never has been a “Captain’s limit”. Previously, if an angler was observed keeping more than 5 stripers as an individual, they were subject to a citation, as now. The big difference in the summer months now is that after 5 stripers, either kept or released, you are done targeting stripers and must not handle the rod while taking additional stripers. Also covered was the fishing day begins one half hour before sunrise and ends one half hour before sunrise the next day. You may take one limit per fishing day. The practice of catching a limit and taking them to the hill and returning for another limit during the same fishing day is illegal. Once an angler has caught 5 stripers it is time to target a different species. The officers are not stupid and if you stay in the same spot and continue to catch stripers after reaching your quota you won’t convince them that now your catfishing. This is not some new revenue producing ploy that DNR has master minded. Rather, it is designed to stop the needless waste of the resource and was put in place at the request of striper clubs and other fishermen involved in the stakeholder meetings. Let’s give the new regulations some time before passing judgment.
Jim,
This is kinda interesting isn’t it? say you start fishing 6pm f
Chip, you might have some ‘splainin to do, but technically, I think you’re right. If you feel like pushin’ your luck let me know how it goes. How’d that song go?: You don’t tug on Superman’s cape, you don’t spit into the wind, you don’t pull the mask of the Ol’ Lone Ranger and you don’t mess around with…DNR.
haha i hear ya. just stirrin the pot some more…lol…
but couldnt catch the other five until 530am or so to be legal
Just have a float plan and a gps log and you should be fine. Offshore guys do it all the time.
Murrymaker,
Your point was addressed last night. Even though you tecnically spanned two seperate “days” if you have more than 5 stripers per individual angler in the box you are in violation of the possession portion of the law. And taking them to the truck would still be a violation. I’m with Jim on not pressing my luck. It’s just not worth the repurcussions. These days I’m lucky just to get on the water…I’d be tickled to death if I caught 5. I might have to start joining the Friday night crowd at the dam.
by no means would i ever think of doing this just to get an extra 5 fish…lol… like i said i was just stirring the pot. i am really excited about how murray is starting to get back to the “good ole days” of striper fishing. The number of double digit fish the last couple of weeks is just amazing. and its only going to get better with regulations like this. I am all for it. Shoot its too hot to stay out there too long anyway…
Good information guys. Thanks for posting.
Any idea how the five per person might be affected if im fishing with my 8 year old.
If I hook fish and hand him the rod is it my fish or his?
Thanks
DNR addressed this type of situation in the meeting and technically it is breaking the law. While this was not mentioned or said, in my own mind, there is a big difference in providing “assistance” in certain circumstances and willfully breaking the law.