i guess my point is sometimes a “spot” is a large area that multiple boats can fish. other times its like what happened to UDC, a small area that another boat rolls into and blows out. just because you are on the trolling motor doesnt give you the the “claim” on the whole area, creek, inlet, piece of jetties etc… it just depends.
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Originally posted by reidjordan17I don’t understand why some people don’t see the problem. I guess if you are all cool with it, when you are catching fish post up your GPS coordinates on here so I can come find them and I’ll setup on top of you since you don’t mind sharing the wealth. I guess I must be the inconsiderate one hogging the mass amounts of water along the coast.
“A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work.”
To expand on this just for the purpose of discussion…so you’re ‘trolling’ along a bank and another boat slowly passes you. How does the passing boat know 1)that you are trolling the bank, 2) the direction that you plan on going, 3)how far up said bank you believe is your trolling area, and therefore, 4) how far away do you believe is appropriate for the other boat to anchor-up and lastly, how would you expect the capt. of the passing boat to know all of this?
Now,in UglyDuck’s situation, pulling up alongside is definitely inconsiderate, but 75-100 yds away??? I don’t know, seems reasonable to me.
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Originally posted by reidjordan17I don’t understand why some people don’t see the problem. I guess if you are all cool with it, when you are catching fish post up your GPS coordinates on here so I can come find them and I’ll setup on top of you since you don’t mind sharing the wealth. I guess I must be the inconsiderate one hogging the mass amounts of water along the coast.
“A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work.”
To expand on this just for the purpose of discussion…so you’re ‘trolling’ along a bank and another boat slowly passes you. How does the passing boat know 1)that you are trolling the bank, 2) the direction that you plan on going, 3)how far up said bank you believe is your trolling area, and therefore, 4) how far away do you believe is appropriate for the other boat to anchor-up and lastly, how would you expect the capt. of the passing boat to know all of this?
Now,in UglyDuck’s situation, pulling up alongside is definitely inconsiderate, but 75-100 yds away??? I don’t know, seems reasonable to me.
Really?
You’re right. It does “just depend”…it “just depends” on one’s level of commonsense that would be the difference between seeing what’s wrong with it and not seeing anything wrong with it.
Not everyone that fishes is anchored up and throwing cut bait/live bait. Some of us, me included, throw artificials 99.99% of the time and my boat is constantly moving and covering water. If someone rolls up on me and wants to fish where I am, that’s fine, and if they can wait a couple of minutes (because I’m steady on the trolling motor), I will have already moved on to new water. If you’re uncertain what to do, ask the person fishing there if they’d mind if you set up in a particular area relative to them. If you ask if you can anchor up in front of me (in the direction I’m fishing), I’d ask you to wait until I passed through and then tell you to have at it. Again, nothing more than commonsense and common courtesy. The alternative is simple too. If someone is fishing where you want to fish because they got there before you did, go hit another spot. If you only have that one spot, you have bigger problems.
Most people that would jump in front of another angler like this do so having had the thought in their head of “should I jump in front of this guy” or “am I too close to this guy.” Bottom line, if you have to ask yourself that, or even if you’re one of those “F*** it” type people, you already know what you’re doing isn’t right. Your character is what will determine how you act upon it.
ST, I don’t know about you but if I have a question that only someone else can answer, I’m going to use that hole under my nose that I rarely have control over and ask them. That said, like I just mentioned, if I have to ask myself “would he mind if…” or “would I be too close if…” then I’m simply not going to stop there. It really is that simple for me. There’s too much fishable water out there for me to consider setting up close to or in front of (the direction an actively fishing boat is heading) another fisherman.
Like R
Sea Tonic, I have had you anchor within 30 yards of me in a small creek (within casting distance). Didn’t seem to bother you then, not sure why you would feel any differently now.
Teach a man to fish and he’ll drink beer outside for the rest of his life.
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Originally posted by NickDNGRSea Tonic, I have had you anchor within 30 yards of me in a small creek (within casting distance). Didn’t seem to bother you then, not sure why you would feel any differently now.
Teach a man to fish and he’ll drink beer outside for the rest of his life.
Whaddya know about that!! Cool! I hope I didn’t do anything unneighborly!! Next time say hello!!
I DON’T mind when someone anchors nearby as long as they don’t anchor in front of me!![ :D] I’m just participating in a discussion about the subject.
Just trying to teach some etiquette here. We all love fishing. That is why we are on this forum. Can we have some respect?
Capt. Steve Fralin
Ugly Ducklin Charters
The Longest Established Inshore Fishing Guide at Edisto
Edisto Island, SC 29438
843-868-1071 Office
843-908-2071 Cell
http://www.edistofishingcharters.com
I think you’re being a little too lenient UD. Every time I hit the water, I do so for fun. My family isn’t going to starve if I don’t bring any fish home but guides/captains are trying to make a living and I believe they deserve a wide berth. Don’t get me wrong, I have had my share of those “I own the water” guides roll up on me and look at me like “how dare you fish my spot” but that is more the exception and not the rule. I love nothing more than catching fish right in front of them while their clients sit with limp lines as they do nothing but watch corks. I know many have come on here and talked about horror stories of guides “bullying” them on the water but like I said, that’s definitely not the norm for my experiences. The few I’ve encountered on the water have been nothing short of respectful and polite. A few months ago, a buddy and I were fishing in a small creek within sight of Capt Jamie Hough of Flat Spot Charters. He had two older clients with him and they were putting fish in the boat at a pretty steady clip, and we were holding our own. Every time I or my buddy would catch a fish, he would actually congratulate us and cheer us on and we would reciprocate when his clients caught fish (we had more opportunities to cheer for them than they did for us). Point being, he was there to do a job and yet you would’ve thought we were all there together to just have a good time. He was no more concerned about us being there than he was concerned with someone fishing miles away. As the crow flies, we were fairly close but in actuality we were around a sharp bend in the creek from him and we were both anchored up. That said, I think he would’ve allowed us to tie up to him if we would’ve asked. Lol!! Class act, that guy.
Anyway, I believe there’s a fine line between being patient/polite/tolerant of this type of on the water behavior and too patient/polite/tolerant. It is our responsibility to educate the uneducated. The unknown variable is whether that person is “educatable.”
No matter how much it h
People have not etiquette. Sorry to hear that especially for you paying clients. I have had same problems fishing in Yellow House on the Cooper with the mud boat a@@holes. The come through in a convoy of 20 and blast over the mud flats. I have called DNR on them and they say its legal. I have a hard time with that brain to mouth filter thing sometimes and I have had a few exclamatory remarks for these young Yeti Hats. I’ve been real close to being hit by one of these morons. They destroy the fishing every low tide on Saturdays at Bushy park. Maybe I should start dropping random concrete blocks on the mud flats at high tide…just kidding, that would make me just as bad as them.
Guns kill people just like spoons made Rosie O’donell fat.
I know this is a bass fishing article, and some scenarios may not apply but I thought it was relevant to this discussion and can be applicable anywhere on the water.
http://www.scout.com/outdoors/wired2fish/story/1768820-6-unwritten-rules-of-bass-fishing-etiquette
No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.
Thank you, bangstick
Capt. Steve Fralin
Ugly Ducklin Charters
The Longest Established Inshore Fishing Guide at Edisto
Edisto Island, SC 29438
843-868-1071 Office
843-908-2071 Cell
http://www.edistofishingcharters.com
I know I have strange ways of looking at things sometime, but this is how I see this subject.
I have a tremendous respect for most real guides. They have to work hard to make a living, and I am out there just playing. I love to see other people succeed at catching fish. They are expected to catch fish, be nice to their clients, and be nice to the other guy fishing near him. Now this might sound really strange, but if I knew a guide wanted to fish where I am fishing, I would invite him to come on in. If there was not enough room for two boats, I would most likely leave the spot and go find another.
UD-people fishing from the hill don’t count right. You’ve done this to me plenty of times in my back yard.
I am sorry guys but i let the guides have first spot every time.I have seen them heading to a spot i fish and just turn and let them have it.I am fishing they are working.If that pisses you off so be it.Anyone see my boat can pull up anytime and chat.Need live bait if i have plenty it is yours.Happy Easter all!!!
Stonoman
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Originally posted by TeamCoorsLightUD-people fishing from the hill don’t count right. You’ve done this to me plenty of times in my back yard.
Wow! That’s one heck of a first post TeamCoorsLight. Welcome to the CF.com family and thank you for your valuable contribution to the discussion.
This is a very interesting thought, though. I have been fishing with Capt. Steve for many years and have only known him to show the utmost courtesy to other anglers, whether by land or sea, and sometimes even when they were pushing the boundary themselves. I have even known him to stop and share some bait with folks fishing from a public access bank before. On top of that, I do not ever remember seeing Capt. Steve fishing in someone’s yard. Hmmm… I must have missed something.
In any case I guess I need to pay more attention because if your yard is that good of a spot, then I will have to check it out myself when he is not there. Hell, if it’s really that good of a spot I might share it with my friends from out of town. Maybe stop to say hello and have a CoorsLight with the Team.
I’ll keep you posted.
Be well Y’all!
Matthew K. Mizell
Sea Pro 190CC
Johnson 115 4-Stroke
Stonoman is a class act , we could all learn from him…
Good post Joe:smiley:
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MK the spot behind my house is no secret, and could care less if a ton of people fish it. UD has not done this recently, but has in the past. That’s all I was saying… It just gets old people cruising in and not showing any respect. Most of the I’m fishing from the boat and never crowd anyone. There is a ton of water around Edisto if your not familiar with it.