quote:I agree, she already knew DNR would tell her to pound sand or she would have already called them.
Originally posted by Head EastIf she could call DNR and have you run off she would have. Ask her if she needs the number next time.
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beach & marsh covered by water up to the High water line are property of the state as others have stated and we have every right to access and recreate within the law in these areas.
Access must be gained via water or public land w/o trespassing. Rare instances such as Kings Grants are possible (dock man has seen 3). Others looking at GIS - These areas shown as owned by a private party are simply shown as a potential dock corridor such that adjacent owners don’t cross their corridor or build docks in their potential corridor. I read the post one shared about legal battles for these “marshes” - Very interesting. But keep in mind, property boundaries should be posted, so if its not posted and you are in waters of the state, you should consider yourself abiding the law under 99.99% of the scenarios mentioned here. In the 0.01% instances, your call if you want green pants to talk to you about it. For me, I’d ignore this crazy lady on the bank and keep fishing - until someone with a firearm shows up (owner or law enforcement).
Every time she yelled, I would have given her a friendly wave. Basically, a “Hi, I see you, I hear you, I don’t really care what you’re screaming about, but I’ll still wave Hi everytime you do”. This would have driven her crazy and she’d give up.
It’s highly unlikely that DNR would take their time with this complaint.
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Was this on Westbank Creek?
If I’m not mistaken, the GIS for both Oak Island Plantation (green roof) and Cassina Point (red roof) still show a considerable amount of marsh attached to the deed.
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Originally posted by DockmanThey actually do own it and pay taxes on it, properties are advertised for sale and sold as x acres of high land and y acres of marsh land,I look at the plats and surveys all of the time, control of the marsh is a different story.
Kings grant on properties DOES give control of the water that flows across it and creeks that flow through it. If you want to test it, take a boat ride into one and call DNR on yourself- enjoy your ticket.We use phrases like navigable waters are always legal, because 99.9% of it is legal.
Just like camping on an uninhabited island,almost always ok but usually you are actually tresspassing on someone’s property.
Thanks for that Dockman, I didn’t realize a KG had control over navigable water, I thought it was just the marsh. What areas do you know that are KG? and is there a tax map or something you can look at to determine? I’ve got an ap that shows property owners and from time to time I’ll use it just out of curiosity. I’ve never seen a KG show up, have seen a few post here about them.
Just a note - not all beaches and land below MHWM are “public.”
Take, for instance, Folly Beach and their no alcohol policy. They can enforce their ordinances all the way to the water - even though it’s below the mark.
Same goes for Seabrook and Kiawah, and even for Morris Island which is owned (is it still?) by the City of Charleston - who actually has a no alcohol policy on their beaches (it’s their only one).
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https://ccgisapps.charlestoncounty.org/public_search/
Zoom into some properties where marshes and water are located, click on the icon for layers and you can turn on marsh and water layers under hydrologies. You will see plenty of marsh land located within private property boundaries. You can also see the legal ownership entity/individual(s). It’s public tax records.
Relative to previous question, Morris Island shows as 2100 acres owned by State. Just passing along what’s on the public record and there may be more to it, not looking to argue over it!