Scope Issue-Need Help/Advice

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Originally posted by leadenwahboy

I had a Remington 700 that would NOT shoot that Core-Lokt stuff worth a (**()!

What Federal ammo were you using?

I always suggest buying a few boxes of different ammo you would be willing to hunt with. Sight rifle in with some random ammo, then shoot a 3 or 5 shot group with each ammo and decide which one groups better and go from there. Just be sure you’re using ammo that you would or could hunt with.

Did both the Federal and the Core-Lokt shoot all over? Like first shot core-lokt low left, second high right, third low left?

Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat


I was shooting the federal fusion ammo and another type of federal (blue box-forgot what brand it was). And yes those rounds were doing exactly what you said. Extremely high right, high left then low etc…very frustrating

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison

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Thank you, I looked at all of them and that’s the one I just ordered :smiley:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper

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Originally posted by idratherbefishing
quote:
Originally posted by leadenwahboy

I had a Remington 700 that would NOT shoot that Core-Lokt stuff worth a (**()!

What Federal ammo were you using?

I always suggest buying a few boxes of different ammo you would be willing to hunt with. Sight rifle in with some random ammo, then shoot a 3 or 5 shot group with each ammo and decide which one groups better and go from there. Just be sure you’re using ammo that you would or could hunt with.

Did both the Federal and the Core-Lokt shoot all over? Like first shot core-lokt low left, second high right, third low left?

Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat


I was shooting the federal fusion ammo and another type of federal (blue box-forgot what brand it was). And yes those rounds were doing exactly what you said. Extremely high right, high left then low etc…very frustrating

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison


Getting a bad barrel from Ruger is not entirely uncommon. Especially on these newer models. Doesn’t take much to throw the bullet off.

Have you contacted them yet?

Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat

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Originally posted by leadenwahboy
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Originally posted by idratherbefishing
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Originally posted by leadenwahboy

I had a Remington 700 that would NOT shoot that Core-Lokt stuff worth a (**()!

What Federal ammo were you using?

I always suggest buying a few boxes of different ammo you would be willing to hunt with. Sight rifle in with some random ammo, then shoot a 3 or 5 shot group with each ammo and decide which one groups better and go from there. Just be sure you’re using ammo that you would or could hunt with.

Did both the Federal and the Core-Lokt shoot all over? Like first shot core-lokt low left, second high right, third low left?

Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat


I was shooting the federal fusion ammo and another type of federal (blue box-forgot what brand it was). And yes those rounds were doing exactly what you said. Extremely high right, high left then low etc…very frustrating

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison


Getting a bad barrel from Ruger is not entirely uncommon. Especially on these newer models. Doesn’t take much to throw the bullet off.

Have you contacted them yet?

Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat


X2, I have a Ruger M77 that sits in the cabinet now because of being all over the target, started using an older Ruger #1, and have not touched the scope setting since zeroing in.

A buddy had the s

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Originally posted by leadenwahboy
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Originally posted by idratherbefishing
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Originally posted by leadenwahboy

I had a Remington 700 that would NOT shoot that Core-Lokt stuff worth a (**()!

What Federal ammo were you using?

I always suggest buying a few boxes of different ammo you would be willing to hunt with. Sight rifle in with some random ammo, then shoot a 3 or 5 shot group with each ammo and decide which one groups better and go from there. Just be sure you’re using ammo that you would or could hunt with.

Did both the Federal and the Core-Lokt shoot all over? Like first shot core-lokt low left, second high right, third low left?

Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat


I was shooting the federal fusion ammo and another type of federal (blue box-forgot what brand it was). And yes those rounds were doing exactly what you said. Extremely high right, high left then low etc…very frustrating

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison


Getting a bad barrel from Ruger is not entirely uncommon. Especially on these newer models. Doesn’t take much to throw the bullet off.

Have you contacted them yet?

Wadmalaw native
16’ Bentz-Craft Flats Boat


I could agree on a bad barrel but Idratherbefishing said it shot fine with another scope… so probably not barrel.

"If Bruce Jenner can keep his wiener and be called a woman, I c

Well (**(), you didn’t say it was a Ruger. Sell it and buy something worth a ****. Seriously, some RA’s shoot very well, others suck, doesn’t seem to be a lot of middle ground. I can’t vouch for the guys at AGT but, if they are anything like the rest of the Tommy Tactikools inhabiting other gun counters I see and have the same firearms knowledge I see in them, take it off and start over. I actually saw a guy at Cabelas try to mount one backwards. I’m not trusting that any of them do it right.

Mark
Pioneer 222 Sportfish Yamaha F300
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

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Originally posted by idratherbefishing

So went out to sight in my Weaver Super Slam 3x15x50 and managed to get it dialed in at 25yds. As soon as 100yds, my shots were all over the place. Never even hit the bullseye. Breathing was good, same for trigger pull. I put over 40 rounds on my .270 and even had 2 other gentlemen look and it and fire it as well. Adjusted to each shot per
the scope info. Most were high right and high left then went to very low. I don’t believe it’s the gun since my previous scope in this gun worked fine and had a great 1" grouping at 100yds. Any thoughts or ideas?

Thank you,

Micah

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison


Why did you venture from the original scope that was producing groups within an inch?

Leadenwahboy mentioned Ruger barrels with having issues, I confirmed they are a big problem in the newer models.

Saltydog,
Whats wrong with the browning a bolt or x bolt? I don’t know much about the A bolt but I know my x bolt in 308 has become my favorite hunting rifle. Curious why you dislike them.

Capt. R. Killin
Sea Hooked Charters

Browning makes ****ty bolt action rifles. Owned quite a few over the years and had a grand total of one I would consider to have acceptable accuracy. I won’t even look at one anymore. I’d rather take a Savage or Remington SPS and drop some coin in it. At least people make upgrades and aftermarket parts for them, can’t say that about a Browning. Plus for what they want you can get into a Tikka, Winchester and even a Sako A7 in some cases, all of which are vastly superior to a Browning. If you’re happy with it good, I’d of never wasted money on.

Mark
Pioneer 222 Sportfish Yamaha F300
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

I love my x bolt. I get sub moa groups out of it and the action is smooth as butter. I will say that after about 4 rounds the gun starts grouping pretty wild due to the thin barrel heating up. My remington 700 is just as accurate but isn’t nearly as smooth. Fit and finish on the browning is way better than the remington too. Remington is a work horse tack driver but I can’t carry anything into the woods after a season with the x bolt.

Capt. R. Killin
Sea Hooked Charters

You have to shoot a 700 smooth, at least the SPS versions. Truthfully I’d rather take my Sako than any rifle I own but how and where I hunt, my rifles take a beating. It’s difficult to tote something that nice into crappy conditions so I take the one I bought to beat up. It’ll never be worth more than what I have in it. Some people like their Browning rifles, I’m just not one of them.

Mark
Pioneer 222 Sportfish Yamaha F300
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

Salty,
I’ve considered polishing the action on my 700 for a few years now but just never got around to it. Have you ever polished one yourself? Is it worth the time in your opinion?

Capt. R. Killin
Sea Hooked Charters

Never polished one, my 7mm08 is slicked down but, it’s from shooting it.

Mark
Pioneer 222 Sportfish Yamaha F300
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

Here’s my 2 cents. Take the weaver bases and throw them in the trash. Buy a good set of Leopold or Redfield bases and rings that won’t break the bank. Use loc-tite on the bases, then properly torque the rings when you put the scope in it. Finally, bore sight it yourself from a bench and then use the same ammo all the time. Don’t vary ammo unless you just can’t get it to pattern.

It really sounds like you have a problem with the base being loose, or either the scope is bad. With that being said, I have that same scope on a Rem 700bdl in .308 that will drive tacks. Hopefully you get your problem resolved soon.

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I have 2 super slams and am extremely happy with them. That Being said, scrap the rings and bases and get some talley’s.

Thank you everyone for the help, I greatly appreciate it. I’m probably going to sell it and go with something else. If anyone wants a Ruger American let me know lol

Here’s the exact same problem I have in an article. http://rugerforum.net/ruger-bolt-action/140540-problems-ruger-american.html#/forumsite/21396/topics/140540?page=1

Thank you everyone!
Micah

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison

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Originally posted by idratherbefishing

Thank you everyone for the help, I greatly appreciate it. I’m probably going to sell it and go with something else. If anyone wants a Ruger American let me know lol

Here’s the exact same problem I have in an article. http://rugerforum.net/ruger-bolt-action/140540-problems-ruger-american.html#/forumsite/21396/topics/140540?page=1

Thank you everyone!
Micah

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison


You said prior to changing the scope the rifle shot good, If that’s true it’s not a rifle issue and you need to check the setup before you trash it.

Get a DNZ, eliminated one of the mechanical joints in the set up. Mount the scope, no Loctite in the rings and thank me later. I’ve got 2 20MOA DNZ’s on my Nightforce’s and one on a Trijicon, never had a single issue with any of them. Talley makes great mounts too but for a beat around gun it’s hard to beat the robust design of the DNZ.

Mark
Pioneer 222 Sportfish Yamaha F300
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.

“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne

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Originally posted by salty849
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Originally posted by idratherbefishing

Thank you everyone for the help, I greatly appreciate it. I’m probably going to sell it and go with something else. If anyone wants a Ruger American let me know lol

Here’s the exact same problem I have in an article. http://rugerforum.net/ruger-bolt-action/140540-problems-ruger-american.html#/forumsite/21396/topics/140540?page=1

Thank you everyone!
Micah

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison


You said prior to changing the scope the rifle shot good, If that’s true it’s not a rifle issue and you need to check the setup before you trash it.


You are correct it did shoot straight on my original scope. I’m taking it to a gun shop to see if they can find the problem. Hopefully it’s not too damaging

There is no substitute for hard work-Thomas A Edison

If gun has shot well, then it is not the gun. Mount or scope issue for sure and I would lean toward scope. I’ve never had issue with properly torqued Weaver mounts on several different guns. I will say guns do favor certain ammo. My Howa does not like CoreLocs where my sons Savage drives tacks with them.

J Ford