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http://sero.nmfs.noaa.gov/vms/VMSFAQs041707_2.pdf
Starts as a drip than a full blown leak. This link is a VMS-Program FAQ from 2007, now look whats at stake. A new way to track & tax, the one place (on the water) I feel relaxed. Now I’ll have to check in with Big Brother, and pay a monthly fee to boot! Whats next, a “Black Box” strapped to my back pack when I’m hunting. Wait for it! They are trying to put the Black Box in our Pick-ups too, as mentioned. Phin and Capt. Mark are absolutely right.
Have been to a couple of the Charleston area meetings on the Snapper/Grouper complex and was amazed at how political this is. The biologists were paying lip service and were not too interested in actual facts about the state of our fishery. At some point in time we will not be able to take any more of this big brother nonsense. We all have an obligation and need to get involved with the RFA and others looking out for our interests.
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Originally posted by capt.markbrownGraham’s staff member told me after the meeting that she thought the SAFMC STAFF has already made up their minds that more MPA’s are needed
regardless of the condition of or the status of these two species.This seemed to be just a formality and going through the motions!
Congressman Scott’s staff member was totally flabbergasted by the amount of unknowns and uncertainties being used as a base line to process these measures.
I beleive they both got a good education on the process of how we are force fed stricter management options first and then told we don’t have any confirmed scientific evalaution or stock assesment to back our decisions!
Don’t take this the wrong way, but this is a little disturbing in itself. While Mark’s response is dated April '12 - the ■■■■■■■■ from Scott & Graham’s representatives could be applied to any of the SAFMC meetings ever held. With all of the emails, calls etc that have been sent to these representatives, I am kind of left wanting to say ‘Ah - yeah, where have you been for the last x years?’
I am so tired of the ‘Ready, Shoot, Aim’ approach taken by these ‘management’ groups and how heavily the game is weighted in favor of the enviro’s - but not really sure what one person can do.
Evidently trying to get the politicians involved hasn’t been effective. Their reaction comes off as if what they saw was something new.
The mental image of Cupka’s dull, expressionless face staring back at the audience during the public commentaries leaves me with no faith that attending the meetings is of any use. They are only held so that the council can say they did it.
I know groups like RFA are fighting against the tide, but when are we going to get a win? It would be nice to actually get something back rather than just fig
I must agree with your frustration Aus-Sea and the SAFMC public hearings I have always felt were just a formality too, but I personally have no choice but to keep trying to set the record straight and pray that our politicans will eventually see it for what it really is and understand that there is way more going on here than so called fishery managment.
Stay hopefull because there will come a point in the near future where I will call on you and many others on this forum to stand together as one voice.
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Originally posted by PhinSnapper grouper advisory panel just voted to recommend a VMS, vessel monitoring system, and federal permit mandatory for ALL boats fishing for snapper grouper species in the south atlantic. The full council, SAFMC, will have this on their agenda at their June meeting.
YOU MUST SHOW UP TO PROTEST unless you want the govt to know your position at all times and also likely is a cockpit video feed.
They are using the recent failed enviro petitions to put kitty mitchells and warsaws on the endangered species list to push for more expansive ocean closures to fishing and of course the enforcement problem is what necessitates the mandatory VMS for ALL boats.
Have a c bass or b liner in your boat but no VMS, you will go to jail.
Did I mention that the head of NOAA has close friends who own the company that makes the VMS equipment that YOU WILL HAVE PURCHASE? My bad. I forgot to mention that until now.
High five NiKKi HAley when you see her. So glad she recommended David Cupka to go back onto the SAFMC so that he could have 18 total years on a federal council where you aren’t supposed to get but two terms. He is now chairman and is pushing every bit of these unwarranted management measures to crown his illustrious career as a public servant for us.
(sarcasm)Oh yeah… We told you so.
Time for you to get off your BUTT and fight however you can.
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when and where is meeting in June… Thanks to people like you who take the time to protest the criminals that somehow have found a way to run our country… I will protest, and will not have one put on my boat… take me to jail if that is the verdict… enough is enough… not being a tough guy, but all fisherman simply need to say no… t
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=2409191
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Summary Report
Snapper Grouper Advisory Panel Meeting
April 18-19, 2012
Charleston, SC
The Snapper Grouper Advisory Panel (AP) met in Charleston on Wednesday, April 18, and Thursday, April 19, 2012 to discuss two main items: possible Marine Protected Areas (MPAs) for speckled hind and warsaw grouper and Snapper Grouper Amendment 18B (golden tilefish). In addition the AP held elections for Chair and Vice-Chair and discussed a few items under Other Business. Below is a summary of the APs motions and recommendations:
Marine Protected Areas for Speckled Hind and Warsaw Grouper
The AP discussed the importance of clear transit provisions for any future MPAs. Additionally, the AP discussed the inability to transit through the Oculina Experimental Closed Area. The motion below pertains to the latter:
MOTION: AP RECOMMENDS THAT THE COUNCIL ALLOW TRANSIT IN THE OCULINA BANK AND BE CONSISTENT WITH TRANSIT PROVISIONS FOR ALL MPAs APPROVED BY AP
The AP spent a considerable time discussing the possibility of MPAs designed to curb bycatch mortality of speckled hind and warsaw grouper.
The AP made the following motions pertaining to this issue:
MOTION: COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER A SMALL SCALE EXPERIMENTAL FISHERY FOR SPECKLED HIND AND WARSAW GROUPER AND REQUEST THAT HARVEST BE CONDUCTED BY FISHERMEN AND SAMPLING BE DONE BY NMFS OR DNRAGENCIES.
MOTION FAILS
MOTION: COUNCIL SHOULD APPROACH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND REQUEST THAT HARVEST OF WARSAW GROUPER IN FLORIDA STATE (ATLANTIC) WATERS BE PROHIBITED
APPROVED BY AP (1 OPPOSED)
MOTION: AP SUPPORTS THE COUNCILS EFFORT TO FURTHER IDENTIFY AND EXPAND EFH AND HAPC FOR SPECKLED HIND AND WARSAW GROUPER AS A BASIS FOR POTENTIAL MPA DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
APPROVED BY AP (1 OPPOSED)
MOTION: REQUEST THAT RESEARCH TO DETERMINE THE EFFECT OF EXISTING MPAs ON SPECKLED HIND AND WARSAW GROUPER BE UNDERTAKEN
APPROVED BY AP (1 OPPOSED)
MOTION: SUGGEST TO THE COUNCIL THAT VMS BE MANDATORY FOR ANY VESSEL (COMMERCI
http://sero.nmfs.noaa.gov/bulletins/fishery_bulletins.htm
Deep Water Closure Amendment 17B lifted opening the doors for the NMFS and the SAFMC to create more MPA’s to help protect Warsaw and Speckled Hind.
These new areas will be larger and shallower and put in places of past W & SH encounter which by the maps I’ve seen could be some of the highly fished areas off our coast.
When these have been designated and put into place, how do you think the govenrment is going to manage these no fish zones?
How do you think they will keep people from fishing there when they are so far offshore?
I personally suspect you will see more of these discussion in the near future!
Hell we have our own State Legislators trying to pass Bill 1231 to give cobia gamefish status. IE no sale of cobia landed in South Carolina. The fish is not even targeted by commercial guys because the federal commercial bag limit is only two. But the oil companies lobby, “the CCA” wants to South Carolina to manage a federal highly migratory fish, take fresh fish off the menu and out of the markets, and have em import it from Georgia Florida or Panama. Enough is enough! It has already passed in the senate! Here is the bill http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess119_2011-2012/bills/1231.htm Contact your legislators and the governor to stop the madness! link http://www.scstatehouse.gov/index.php link http://governor.sc.gov/Pages/default.aspx
Our tradition is that of the first man who sneaked away to the creek when the tribe did not really need fish.
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Originally posted by soupWhere is T. Nugent?
Now that was funny!
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