Don’t say that, you’ll have them believing I’m a mult jabber. You guys don’t know me so much, really.
It’s just if you are going to lead them around by the nose at least do it with a square meal of info vs the mess hall chow powdered egg stuff.
Just some random thoughts from
The Skepic In Training
EF
I make you LOL with things I say? You walking this thing back? I never had to suffer the powdered egg stuff, they served us real eggs. Chow Hall for me was pretty dang good.
Right this way Mr. Gump, get your latest, greatest, snake oil tonic guaranteed to cure whatever ails you! These ain’t backwoods cauldron pot wood paddled mix over a wood fire…theys straight out of top shelf FDA and CDC! Which arm this time?
Cp
Hours after the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) authorized a fourth shot of the Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines for all Americans 50 and older, an FDA official said a fifth shot may be needed in the fall.
“I don’t want to shock anyone but there may be a need for people to get an additional booster in the fall, along with a more general booster campaign if that takes place, because we may need to shift over to a different variant coverage,” Dr. Peter Marks, head of the FDA center that regulates vaccines, told reporters on a call on March 29.
Cp- The CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) published on Jan. 28 presented some very interesting information from California and New York comparing immunity against COVID-19 from four groups of people, indicating natural immunity alone provides the best protection.
Since then, I have been anxiously waiting for more data, as there are 48 other states, and even for California and New York, important data like this should be updated monthly, if not weekly.
To my surprise and disappointment, I have not been able to find any more data on natural immunity from the MMWR since Jan. 28. I am sure they have the data—they just don’t want to share it with us.
I’m beginning to wonder if CDC stands for Center for Data Control.
Those Recovered From COVID Are Best Protected
On March 1, the scientific journal Clinical Infectious Diseases published a peer-reviewed article titled “Risk of reinfection after seroconversion to SARS-CoV-2: A population-based propensity-score matched cohort study.” This Swiss study “observed a 94% reduction in the hazard of being infected among SARS-CoV-2 seropositive participants, when compared to seronegative controls, >8 months after serology assessment.”
This level of
I’ve learned through the years their are many people who refuse to admit even a remote chance they could be wrong. Not sure why. Money, arrogance, fragile egos, narcissistic personality disorder ???
OK, here’s what’s funny to me. First you say this,
Then you say this,
Fred, you beat all I’ve ever stepped in or over. I’ve proven to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that the vaccine has full approval an is not in stage one anything. By doing so it appears I have hurt your feelings, and for that I am truly sorry. But honestly, the truth hurts sometimes. Once again I would ask you to simply stand away from the tree for a minute and gaze at the forest. Maybe that’s asking too much, se la vie.
I have never once advocated nor hindered you nor anyone else from making their own decisions about the vaccine. I
Plus, you owe me a drink of my choice
[quote]Right this way Mr. Gump, get your latest, greatest, snake oil tonic guaranteed to cure whatever ails you! These ain’t backwoods cauldron pot wood paddled mix over a wood fire…theys straight out of top shelf FDA and CDC! Which arm this time?
Cp
Hours after the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) authorized a fourth shot of the Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines for all Americans 50 and older, an FDA official said a fifth shot may be needed in the fall.
“I don’t want to shock anyone but there may be a need for people to get an additional booster in the fall, along with a more general booster campaign if that takes place, because we may need to shift over to a different variant coverage,” Dr. Peter Marks, head of the FDA center that regulates vaccines, told reporters on a call on March 29.
Cp- The CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) published on Jan. 28 presented some very interesting information from California and New York comparing immunity against COVID-19 from four groups of people, indicating natural immunity alone provides the best protection.
Since then, I have been anxiously waiting for more data, as there are 48 other states, and even for California and New York, important data like this should be updated monthly, if not weekly.
To my surprise and disappointment, I have not been able to find any more data on natural immunity from the MMWR since Jan. 28. I am sure they have the data—they just don’t want to share it with us.
I’m beginning to wonder if CDC stands for Center for Data Control.
Those Recovered From COVID Are Best Protected
On March 1, the scientific journal Clinical Infectious Diseases published a peer-reviewed article titled “Risk of reinfection after seroconversion to SARS-CoV-2: A population-based propensity-score matched cohort study.” This Swiss study “observed a 94% reduction in the hazard of being infected among SARS-CoV-2 seropositive participants, when compared to seronegative controls, >8 months after serology assessment.”
This le
E.F., yes I know the FDA has authorized it. BUT… it is still in stage One experimental! I want to see Phase 4: Will it stay safe down the road?
No worries on the drink, … win, loose, draw, smile, frown, poker face. I’d be most happy to buy you several drinks. You can even call me crazy as a scat house Loon with no offence taken from myself. I’ve been called a heck of a lot worse, but not too often, and usually by friends.
I will admit, I thought you were against us that do not want the vaccine yet or ever. Don’t think I’ve heard you say that before, or missed it?
Raining your way yet? It just started flooding here around White Hall. Let’s just be friends and I’ll quit with the vaccine stuff… for now. Ok? Let’s get your take on why you think I’m so crazy to want to harvest organs from Murder’s and Kid touchers so they can give back to society. 
That is after they have received a full battery of tests to make sure they are viable and safe for the donors. No torturing, just put into an induced Coma so they feel no pain. If judgement is against them, they’ll feel pain enough eternally.
E.F. I’ve got a civil question to ask you/ discuss if you would. I’ll be the first to admit, I’m a Trump supporter. But. When he said he would have a vaccine out (and did) there was no way I was taking it that quick. My only thought to how quick it came out and how quick it was approved for the World is something I can not prove, but feel very strong about. This vaccine was made to go along with the new strain of COVID/ corona Created by Fauci and friends when Obuma made him move his lab out of the U.S. In all biological weapons a vaccine is created hand in hand with the weapon.
Just curious how crazy the above make you believe I am. Just do me a favor and consider this openly. Probably be better to do it face to face over a bon fire and some good booze, but we promise to not bring up Biden’s name or any other political crap. Maybe some old fishing stories… I’ve got some good ones locally and from Panama City. Scallop net in the early 70’s and coming back with a trash can full of em and having to help shuck them. Sea horses, octopus, sea snakes, and all kinds of crazy stuff we would catch. Walking in the bay at night and scooping crabs up with just a dip net. Seining at night for shrimp. Gator trout upon gator trout. If I die tomorrow, it’s been a good life!
It’s my understanding that most of the recent advancements in mRNA technologies (as it pertains to the sars and covid virus) was started years ago. It is a technology that was primarily developed in the treatment of cancers.
these short but informative articles published by National Geographic will get you started in understanding that the jab wasn’t just developed from scratch in the past two years, but something that has been ongoing for some time.
Again Fred, these are not my ideas or philosophy or anything of the sort. These are just some things that you may or may not be aware of and have yet to consider.
I was thinking of you guys, especially Bayrider, over lunch today. Real sardines are a hard item to find anymore.
back to the asparagus beds, mother nature won’t wait forever
EF
I should add that you might have to give an email address to read those nat geo articles, sorry, I should have picked better ones.
This one lays it out pretty good without having to sign into anything, not as good as the nat geo one, but it will do
https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/mrna-s-history--and-its-future
I would imagine I consider more than you could imagine. And you gave me heck for saying the Corona virus mutates? Come on E. D. I was actually hoping for some decent banter. I don’t want to argue and fight, I just want to piss and moan about the B.S. going on in our society at present.
I think the softshell crab I had tonight might top your Sardines. ( I do love some Sardines on toasted Rye Bread with Mayo). Not all the food tonight was fried. Back strap was skillet cooked with butter, Bacon wrapped cabbage quarters, stone ground cheesy grits, sweet potato wedges, + some other stuff brought in. Belly so full I may have to poor out the rest of this last drink.
I remember back in the mid 70’s when our house was being built and spending the day picking up limbs and leveling stump holes. Sardines were a staple along with PB and J.
Note to fellow debaters, never address your opponent as Bo, it only proves your position is based on opinion in lieu of fact.
CpEF- “The constant bombardment of anti-vax propaganda, IN MY OPINION, could very well lead someone that could benefit from a couple of jabs to being “scared off” and suffer because of it.“
Is it also your opinion that my postings from the viewpoint of an EXvaxxer, could very well benefit someone from suffering from their choice of getting jabbed?
I read your article so kindly watch a couple of short videos please.
Peter McCullough https://www.internationalcovidsummit.com/live-media
George Fareed
https://www.internationalcovidsummit.com/live-media
A better way does exist.
OK, I took your advice and watched both videos in their entirety.
After watching I was a bit skeptical, because as you know I am now your skeptic in training, and guess what I found out?
Peter McCullough is a board certified heart guy down at Baylor University Medical Center,well, I guess I should say he WAS a board certified heart guy down Baylor way.
It seems ol’ doc McCullough, at least according to this wiki tidbit on him, was fired with cause from Baylor for “promoting misinformation about covid and its treatments”.
Really, you can check it out here for yourself, just so you know I’m not trying to pull any shuck and jive BS, nor any jedi mind bending stuff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough
Heck, Baylor has gone so far as to put out Restraining Orders out on this quack McCullough for him trying to maintain he is still board certified and still associated with Baylor University.
I know, I know, seems odd after all the faith and trust you put into his philosophy and all the soap box proclamations you’ve made, but here Bo, check this out, its for real. Your guy is evidently a hoax https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/958916
And please sir, don’t even get me starte
Personal experience. Well not personal experience but personal knowledge.
My 72-year-old neighbor one street over Vietnam vet still riding a bike got the jab back a couple days before Thanksgiving. Oh let me back up just a little bit. Back in October he had his yearly physical a stress test colonoscopy and all that good stuff. Doctor told him he should live to 100.
Well after getting stabbed the next morning he woke up sick. He was miserable for about 10 days. After he got feeling better they had their little Thanksgiving block party. Every year they deep fry a couple turkeys and cook a couple hams and everybody just pops by from the neighborhood. They got everything cleaned up and Lou went and sat down on the porch to drink a beer Cheryl went in took a shower. When she came out lou was slumped over in the chair of dead. Heart attack.
Just saying coincidence I personally don’t think so.
22 life’s a day
I can’t deny that. If you read the article about mRNA the last two summation paragraphs say that it isn’t always an exact science. It appears that the lining of the heart is particularly susceptible in a very small percentage of people. There are currently around 350 million variations in the human genome. That alone makes it near impossible to target specific proteins with 100% accuracy 100% of the time. There are variations in everything, think about how much variation a simple grain of powder make. Anyway, I digress
OTC, its some sad schitt that this vaccine, or any vaccine on the planet for that matter, doesn’t have some sort of side effect or another. All medications have side effects, and most of them are not good. But the simple truth is that the benefits outweigh the risks. Thats just a hard fact of life and the way it is in the real world. Like I said, sad schitt really, but facts are facts.
Look, I know you are a military man, so we might have a few more things in common than you think. Maybe. Let me explain it in a way that maybe we might somehow see this more eye to eye. This is the way I see it anyway…
The jab is like napalm to a zipperhead virus. Sometimes when the schitt hits the fan you call in reinforcements, the reinforcements is like the jab. When you got gooks in the wire you call in air support and scald the yellow bastards back to whence they came. In doing so you hold your position and eventually hopefully win the battle, but sometimes some of your buddies ended up too close to the parameter and the napalm blast incinerates the
EF please post what you know on George Fareed but don’t bother me if it’s from Wikipedia which is not considered to be a reliable source since anyone has access to it and can post disinformation. As far as medscape the skeptic thinks that receiving contracts from the top shelf CDC may cause a little conflict to attack a fine doctor with a different treatment for covid that must be suppressed.
I hope you’re not on the cancel culture mob that would cause me great sorrow
https://censortrack.com/case/dr-peter-mccullough
Anyway how did the $cience change for Fauci?
seems a might strange eh?
and why on God’s green earth would the top shelf CDC change a long-standing definition
https://technofog.substack.com/p/cdc-emails-our-definition-of-vaccine
just a small request I never seen any Star Wars movies just ain’t my cup of tea so could you compare me to any characters of your choice from my favorite movie Tombstone? I’ll be your huckleberry.
Guessing I’m still in your good graces?
Currently I’d have to say Mattie Earp
Methinks you need to lay low on the laudanum or whatever it is that has your head so foggy.
You asked. I just call em lik…never mind
Good Graces always sir, its a sticks and stones thing for me. Really
Your Pal
EF
WTF EF? Hellll no, Friendly fire is absolutely avoidable!!! Specially in todays conflicts, actually not much need at all for ground troops with modern technology and intel. Unless you have some wet behind the ear butter bar looking for a promotion at the cost of “grunts”. Come on dude that is probably the stupidest thing you have ever said on this sight.
A small risk in life is acceptable to me, but a 20-30% chance of a negative reaction in TODAY’s World … NOT ACCEPTABLE!! Screw the vaccine, why didn’t we go after Treatments?!! So many were just sent home from the Docs office or Hospital with nothing to even help symptoms and then they DIED.
Tragedy of Friendly fire?!, now you admit to the world this vaccine is crap, but still try to pump it up. And you call me crazy as a scat house loone?!. Dude I’m guessing you were possibly an officer rather than enlisted. You’ve never stated your service time that I recall, but I do remember a screen shot you po
EF, just curious, do you have kids and grandkids?? If so, have you advised them they should get jabbed??
Perhaps this has been asked, and I missed it…
THANKS
NN