60' Viz and Quality box.

Took a trip on the High Yield with owner Bernerd, Realfish01, Loose Shoe,his bride and Marvelous Marvin. Weather was awesome and the diving was to. 60’ Viz on first dives and down to around 30 on last dive with 79’ bottom temp.Loose Shoe strung up the day maker Scamp at over 20lbs.

Ended up the day with a mess of good grouper and 5 good bugs!
Y’all need to look out for a Cape Horn goes by Ice cream & *****es! Need to call them *****es & Cornholers! They saw us and made a hard turn to Port and got off plane and started Jigging within 30 Yards of our dive buoy. We were drifting and jigging looking for that perfect spot to put in our divers and when we pulled back up to our marker they flipped us off. With a dive flag up I would at the very least hailed them on the radio to see what their intentions were. Hard to believe the ocean is this crowded with only two boats out there! Just goes to show that just because you can spend a lot of money on a boat doesn’t make you a good seaman or courteous fisherman.
Realfish01 served a hot breakfast,hot Venison sausage and egg Wraps and I cooked Venison Chorizo tacos for lunch. Nothing like having a galley and beanbags in the AC for the ride home!

If it got any better I couldn’t stand it.

Had someone hook our bouy with their mulity treble hook king rig earlier this year,yes i had a dive flag and divers down,they just kept circling me,would not answer radio…this world is full of dumbass people…it was a nice Buddy Davis with mercury outboards…nice boat dumb capt…

I think the dive flag is now the international cornhole sign…

there was a guy diving near us saturday and I wouldnt go anywhere near that boat even though it was on on of the points on my gps. Didnt know when and where the guys were gonna come up so I let it be and tried another spot. caught two big scamps so I was as happy as can be!

Let me just clarify a few things. The section of bottom we were planning on fishing was about 200 - 300 feet from where you guys were, so there was no hard turn to port. Second. When I pulled up I was getting bait out / etc, so never saw you dive flag (and of course someone grabbed a rod and dropped a jig down). 3rd, I have no idea what where you saw someone flipping you off, because I can ensure that didn’t happen. But anyhow, I never post on this site due to this insanity. Your boat captain is the one while we were in neutral getting set up almost drove right over us, but I’m not going to get into it, as the section of bottom we were going to fish on that ledge was plenty far enough from where your initial position was for the both of us. Plus, had you advised us you were planning on diving on the radio, I would have been more than happy to give you a wide birth. Apologies for any ruffled feathers.

nice haul BC…as usual

Real simple…If you see someone is on “your” spot…GO SOMEPLACE ELSE! (unless you know them)

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NMFS = No More Fishing Season

“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”

x2^^^ sells…Early bird gets the worm. However, most of the time if your nice about it and radio the other boat they will let you share a spot (That does not mean fish right on top of them) But I have had several people come up to me and ask if I mind if they fish the same area as me as long as they stay out of my way? Of course Im not going to say no to that, it shows class and sportsmanship and too many times have I had the other a**hole come in on plane, sit down a boat length away from me (in the middle of the ocean) and drop lines. Ok end rant, dont even want to get started…All Im saying is show some class, if someone is on your spot and you have NO WHERE else to go, just be polite and ask them if its cool to fish the same area, most of the time that is all it takes…

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Originally posted by jiggiejig

Let me just clarify a few things. The section of bottom we were planning on fishing was about 200 - 300 feet from where you guys were, so there was no hard turn to port. Second. When I pulled up I was getting bait out / etc, so never saw you dive flag (and of course someone grabbed a rod and dropped a jig down). 3rd, I have no idea what where you saw someone flipping you off, because I can ensure that didn’t happen. But anyhow, I never post on this site due to this insanity. Your boat captain is the one while we were in neutral getting set up almost drove right over us, but I’m not going to get into it, as the section of bottom we were going to fish on that ledge was plenty far enough from where your initial position was for the both of us. Plus, had you advised us you were planning on diving on the radio, I would have been more than happy to give you a wide birth. Apologies for any ruffled feathers.


Sounds like you were a lot closer than 200 feet! People like you give fishermen a bad name. Millions of square miles of ocean, and you have to disturb the one other boat in sight. I would not have been as nice as Bug Catcher, know that.

Paul is right of course,If you get off plane and stop within 30yds of my boat or marker, you are just plane corn holing! By law you can not approach a boat within 300’ with a dive flag up. Not only is it dangerous but very unsportsmanlike.If I have a anchor ball out (or any marker) we make several drifts to check for current and our drift so we can drop our divers in the right spot and have a plan for which way a lost diver will need to be searched for! The anchor ball is used strictly as a reference point for the bubble watchers on the boat. The crew tries to stay directly over the divers to keep the sharks from retrieving our catch and help the diver in a hurry. Sometimes we can end up a long ways from were we dropped the divers. Our biggest concern is these new braided fishing lines attached to a 80lb Cobia or AJ really cutting a diver to shreds simply because a boat had to fish on top of us! We recently ran 60 miles to some live bottom that had a king fisherman in a tournament on OUR #! We ended running back another 20 miles because it was the right thing to do, he was there first! If I’m fishing your only spot, PLEASE hail us on the radio and I will gladly give you another# to try. As for the finger, Ive been around long enough to know what it looks like and what it means. Maybe not you, but your crew has your reputation in there hands too. No harm done, just seems like a lot of water out there and very few boats willing to go anymore to fish on top of anyone. Good luck, Ed.

If it got any better I couldn’t stand it.

Even 300’ ain’t enough space if there are divers in the water. What fish is worth hurting someone?

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Whats worse is when you are anchored up on a wreck flying a dive flag and you hear the sound of anchor and chain hitting right by you on the wreck. I had this happen once, came up from the dive and this yahoo is anchored not 40 feet from me and just looking at me like a complete idiot.No response when I questioned why he was anchored so close to us while we were diving. This guy was throwing a Delta plow anchor directly into a wreck which usually means lost anchor anyway, I did notice on my second dive that it was wedged pretty good in some wreckage and probably would not come out. This a#* actually had the nerve to ask me to go unhang it for him when I came up from my second dive. I have helped many people with freeing anchors and even retrieving rods, sunglasses, etc that have gone overboard but if you are an a#*hole/cornholer forget it. Once he eventually cut the line and left I went down and got me a nice anchor. I fish and dive so I see it from both sides, I know it sucks when you run 40 miles to fish “your spot” but trust me someone else has those numbers too and if someone is on them I will move on. I hope if you run 40 miles you have more than just a single set of numbers anyway.

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Originally posted by Cracker Larry

Even 300’ ain’t enough space if there are divers in the water. What fish is worth hurting someone?

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose


Exactly. I think a quarter mile is a good rule of thumb. The bottom line is if you get closer to someone than that, you will be seen as a cornholer no matter what. Fishing or diving, it doesn't matter. Early bird get's the worm... There are thousands of places to bottom fish in our waters, so if you get any closer than that, you are the a-hole.

I think the only real exception is if you are fishing on an artificial reef. By definition, those things kind of put you in close proximity to other people anyway. You just have to use your head in those situations, and put safety first.

Bug- I would like to have a copy or reference number to that law. Agree with your post.

Dive Flags are magnets for idiots.
They come to them like flies to a pile of wet chit.
The last time I dove, my son and I had 2 guys come over us (we were already on the bottom )
and proceeded to start drifting and jigging right over our anchor. The first jig literaly hit the bottom 10’ in front of me.
No way they didn’t see our “large” dive flag since it was on top of our 8’ antenna which is mounted to the T-top

I’ve had divers drop right in on where we were fishing. Hope they didn’t expect me to move.

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Originally posted by jws

I’ve had divers drop right in on where we were fishing. Hope they didn’t expect me to move.


That happened to me at the Kiawah Reef a couple of years ago…anchored up and some divers came in later and got very close, went down and even had their bubbles coming under my boat. I had caught a few sheephead, but they brought up many more. I hooked one of the divers and when he got to the surface he told me about it…in a joking way…I told him I was sorry…not worth the hassle to me to give an arguementive response.

John

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Originally posted by jws

I’ve had divers drop right in on where we were fishing. Hope they didn’t expect me to move.


It's no difference. I've seen divers get close to fishermen, fishermen get close to divers, fishermen get close to fishermen, and divers get close to divers. It doesn't matter. Give each other a quarter mile or so. Why is 300' not good enough? Because both fishermen and divers can cover a lot of ground if they are not anchored. The difference is that you can see what ground a fisherman is covering. Most of the time, you cannot see where a diver is covering.

One more tip… Bubbles don’t always float straight up. They are at the mercy of the current just like everything else. Just because you drop a hook on top of a spot without bubbles, doesn’t mean you aren’t about to hook a diver.

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by jws

I’ve had divers drop right in on where we were fishing. Hope they didn’t expect me to move.


It's no difference. I've seen divers get close to fishermen, fishermen get close to divers, fishermen get close to fishermen, and divers get close to divers. It doesn't matter. Give each other a quarter mile or so. Why is 300' not good enough? Because both fishermen and divers can cover a lot of ground if they are not anchored. The difference is that you can see what ground a fisherman is covering. Most of the time, you cannot see where a diver is covering.

One more tip… Bubbles don’t always float straight up. They are at the mercy of the current just like everything else. Just because you drop a hook on top of a spot without bubbles, doesn’t mean you aren’t about to hook a diver.


Good Point!

John

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by jws

I’ve had divers drop right in on where we were fishing. Hope they didn’t expect me to move.


It's no difference. I've seen divers get close to fishermen, fishermen get close to divers, fishermen get close to fishermen, and divers get close to divers. It doesn't matter. Give each other a quarter mile or so. Why is 300' not good enough? Because both fishermen and divers can cover a lot of ground if they are not anchored. The difference is that you can see what ground a fisherman is covering. Most of the time, you cannot see where a diver is covering.

One more tip… Bubbles don’t always float straight up. They are at the mercy of the current just like everything else. Just because you drop a hook on top of a spot without bubbles, doesn’t mean you aren’t about to hook a diver.


That’s what I was getting at. The dude said diver flags were a magnet for idiots. There are plenty of idiots with and without diver flags to go around.

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Originally posted by jws

That’s what I was getting at. The dude said diver flags were a magnet for idiots. There are plenty of idiots with and without diver flags to go around.


I agree. I hate that this argument always seems to turn into divers vs fishermen. It's really not that complicated. People only really see what happens to themselves. The problem is cornholers... And cornholers come in all shapes and sizes.

I think that divers just get more defensive, because there are people in the water that don’t want to get run over with a propeller. The most dangerous thing to a diver is not sharks, but other boats.