7/19, 7/20, 7/21

7/19:
Started off in hopes of trolling. Found a great weed line near bubble rock and picked off 8 slingers. Saw a ton of nice dolphin 15 feet underwater but wouldn’t hit anything. We were dropping live cigar minnows next to them and they wouldn’t even acknowledge it. Went searching for new grouper spots. Started off every drop with either a 250 pound shark or an amberjack. Finally found a good ledge and had a grouper almost every drop. Finished the day with 12 grouper, 8 dolphin, and a bunch of snapper.

7/20:
Figured why waste time trolling all day so went grouper fishing again. That decision payed off very good. Started fishing at 830 and we were back at the dock at 1 with limits. Caught two scamps one being 35 inches and another at 37 inches. After catching limits of grouper we switched to squid for the snapper. Sure enough we doubled up with 2 cuberas around 15-20 pound range. First time ever catching one of those. Finished the day with 12 grouper, 2 Cubera snapper, and a bunch of vermillion.

7/21:
And we went bottom fishing again. Fished some numbers in 300-400ft to switch it up. That’s some hard stuff all day with out an electric feel haha. First drops were all grouper. Tax man moved in and cut us off. Gave him 30 minutes and started fishing again. Caught a lot of 20 inch fish that we realeased yesterday. Caught limits of grouper by 2 and some of the biggest silver snapper I’ve ever seen. Finished the day with 9 grouper, 10 silvers, and one nice snowy.

Sorry I didn’t get many pics, capt wanted fish on ice.

36 Yellowfin ~ POLE DANCER
39 contender ~ MAMA BECKY

Solid!!!

Very strong.

yA’LL HAVE HAD AN AWSOME WEEK!

those are mangrove snappers, (**() big one but mangroves.

Nearly Prefect

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Originally posted by juliott

those are mangrove snappers, (**() big one but mangroves.

Nearly Prefect


They could be either. Have to look at roof of mouth to tell, but we have both here. I would tend to believe that his guess (cubera) is the most likely.
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I would tend to believe that his guess (cubera) is the most likely.

I doubt the man is even guessing :smiley:

Solid fishing right there.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper

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If either one of them were a mangrove I would have weighed them for state… Only 12 pounds

36 Yellowfin ~ POLE DANCER
39 contender ~ MAMA BECKY

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I checked with the guide in Key West I fish with. He said they were Mangrove, his name is Mark Schmidt been fishing there since early 80’s.

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definitely mangrove…shot 100’s of them between here and the bahamas but only a few cubera…definitely some of the biggest i’ve ever seen…congrats guys…great scamps too!!! i’m running a 35 contender…curious to catch up w/ u all on what your fuel econ, props, etc…

Man, you are destroying it. Incredible work. Like someone said earlier on this website, the weather has been a virtual closure up until recently… If only i didnt work 80 hr weeks now… Ill have some time off in august right about when the fishing gets really slow :dizzy_face:

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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by juliott

those are mangrove snappers, (**() big one but mangroves.

Nearly Prefect


They could be either. Have to look at roof of mouth to tell, but we have both here. I would tend to believe that his guess (cubera) is the most likely.
Man, you guys are good. One appears to have a blunt nose:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/da4095/Fish/MangroveID03.jpg

The other has smaller lips…looks like one of each. They both got a free ride home. Thanks for making this MB good reading.

Dang right! Dinner time.

They are mangroves… Looked at the cuberas right after the first comment on here. I Definitely would have remembered those teeth like a Cubera has, which the “mangroves” I caught did not. Killing me like crazy now. Tried to weigh one of our scamps for state record when I should have weighed the other two snapper haha. Both of those fish were over 12.12 easily. One on the bottom we guessed at 20. Sorry for not believing that. Just never in my life have seen a mangrove that size.

36 Yellowfin ~ POLE DANCER
39 contender ~ MAMA BECKY

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Originally posted by skinneej
quote:
Originally posted by juliott

those are mangrove snappers, (**() big one but mangroves.

Nearly Prefect


They could be either. Have to look at roof of mouth to tell, but we have both here. I would tend to believe that his guess (cubera) is the most likely.

Again…without looking at the roof of the mouth I’d wager that 9 in 10 couldn’t distinguish between the 2. But, you’ve got a 50/50 chance of being right so keep up the guesses!

“Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance”

Grady-White 265 Express
2x250 Yamaha

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Originally posted by bruisertoo
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Originally posted by skinneej
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Originally posted by juliott

those are mangrove snappers, (**() big one but mangroves.

Nearly Prefect


They could be either. Have to look at roof of mouth to tell, but we have both here. I would tend to believe that his guess (cubera) is the most likely.

Again…without looking at the roof of the mouth I’d wager that 9 in 10 couldn’t distinguish between the 2. But, you’ve got a 50/50 chance of being right so keep up the guesses!

“Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance”

Grady-White 265 Express
2x250 Yamaha


Guesses are good and then mother nature in her infinite wisdom throws you a knuckleball:

Hybrids

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Originally Posted by Shei Daye

Awhile back Bill Crawford turned in a beautiful fish to the IUSA for a record which looked like a giant mangrove at 29 pounds. In that case, it had the tooth patch of a mangrove, but it had the scale count of a cubera, and it had the lower teeth of a mangrove, but it had the upper fangs of a cubera. (By the way, the hook and line record for a mangrove is 17 pounds.) It was very weird, so in the end, the IUSA relied on tissue samples that were sent to a lab. It was determined that that particular fish was a hybrid. I guess in rare cases they can cross breed. The IGFA (for hook and line records) has also received a few hybrids ov