With this tanking economy boat prices are dropping like crazy. If anyone was considering getting into the blue water fishing market a little bit of money will take you a LONG way. Found this on another site.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale/251954-2002-36-contender-fwd-cuddy-triple-60k.html
Not sure if the HPDIs are killing the price or what but these deals did not exist a few years ago when we bought our boat.
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
What do you do, and how do I apply? You said $60,000 is “a little bit of money.”
I have less than 10k in my bote. Will this bote do 6 times as much?
What about maintenance and insurance? What about fuel and oil to run a 36ft bote with triple oil burners?
My HPDI burns $30 of oil every trip offshore, and it is the smaller block motor than the 250’s. This thing above has trip 250’s. He must buy a shopping cart full of oil at wallyworld every time he’s about to go offshore… Or he buys it by the barrel.
What’s even better is when you need to replace the fuel lifter pumps and high pressure filters on the HPDI. Only a few hundred dollars per motor. No biggie, right?
Other than that, the HPDI is a fantastic motor. I like mine a lot. But three of them drinking oil is getting excessive. What happens when one of them blows up from running cheap oil thru it or not keeping new filters in them? How many powerheads do you want to buy for a bote that will never be worth more than $60,000 again?
Isn’t this what people are running from right now in “this economy?”
Isn’t that why this bote is for sale at 1/3 of it’s showroom price when it was new?
“Tigress” '88 Mako 211
Luke 8:22-25
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Originally posted by PhinI have less than 10k in my bote. Will this bote do 6 times as much?
“Tigress” '88 Mako 211
Luke 8:22-25
You are a buzz kill.
There are a lot of people on this site who paid WAY more for their rigs than this and have much less boat. If you were in the market for a new blue water boat this would be a much better options than dropping $120k into a brand new boat. You can buy alot of warranty and oil for $60k.
And yes this boat is at least 3 times your boat if not more.
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
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And yes this boat is at least 3 times your boat if not more.:wink:
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
OUCH!!!
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Originally posted by PhinWhat do you do, and how do I apply? You said $60,000 is “a little bit of money.”
I have less than 10k in my bote. Will this bote do 6 times as much?
What about maintenance and insurance? What about fuel and oil to run a 36ft bote with triple oil burners?
My HPDI burns $30 of oil every trip offshore, and it is the smaller block motor than the 250’s. This thing above has trip 250’s. He must buy a shopping cart full of oil at wallyworld every time he’s about to go offshore… Or he buys it by the barrel.
What’s even better is when you need to replace the fuel lifter pumps and high pressure filters on the HPDI. Only a few hundred dollars per motor. No biggie, right?
Other than that, the HPDI is a fantastic motor. I like mine a lot. But three of them drinking oil is getting excessive. What happens when one of them blows up from running cheap oil thru it or not keeping new filters in them? How many powerheads do you want to buy for a bote that will never be worth more than $60,000 again?
Isn’t this what people are running from right now in “this economy?”
Isn’t that why this bote is for sale at 1/3 of it’s showroom price when it was new?
“Tigress” '88 Mako 211
Luke 8:22-25
Boat books at 84/90K in average condition without engines on Bucvalue… If the boat is right that’s a flat out steal and half… The 02 250 HPDI’s are a crap shoot at best, but even if you sold them for alum scrap value you’d still be way ahead.
Or
I could say it’s priced about right considering the engines have no value. I would tell anyone buying it don’t if you can’t afford to repower it. If the engines run, great you are way ahead on a great deal on a great boat.
Wow, there’s a few guys I’ve surveyed boats for in the last two years that will be really pissed if they see this deal… All of them paid way over 100K for the exact same rigs with the same engines…
Marine Surveyor
As much as I hate siding with a Tiger fan I am with Phin. The boat may be a great deal and below actual value but, $60,000 is not a “little bit of money”. At least not where I come from. Jeez, what I could do with 60 grand.
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Originally posted by Gut Wrenchquote:
And yes this boat is at least 3 times your boat if not more.:wink:
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
OUCH!!!
He says at least 3 times my bote. But the cost is still somehow 6 times as great.
Plus you’ve got to add in the extra insurance, 4+ times the oil, 3+ times the fuel, 2+ times the fuel to haul it up and down the road. You get to a figure much more than 6 times what my bote is.
Cracker has said the same thing about his bote.
Will this bote do 4-5 times more than a 25ft world cat?
Seriously???
Like I said,
this IS what people are running from in this economy, and that’s why it is being sold at a give away price…
“Tigress” '88 Mako 211
Luke 8:22-25
This’ll get good by the time it gets to the third page.
Where will you be when you get where you’re going?
If i did have $60k… Wouldn’t spend it on a 8yr old boat!
Think would like to have a newer 26’ish boat
2502 trophy twin 175 mercs
“The Rum Runner”
under construction
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Originally posted by coates2122If i did have $60k… Wouldn’t spend it on a 8yr old boat!
Think would like to have a newer 26’ish boat2502 trophy twin 175 mercs
“The Rum Runner”
under construction
What about this Contender for no more than 24,500?
Depending on the year model, the 225HP Optimaxes may be better motors to rely on than the 2002 Z250’s on scootin’s 60K bote. And this Contender even has an upper control station!
So again, I ask you all whether scootin’s bote is truly worth more than twice as much as the $24,500 bote I have linked to above.
Remember that it’s 2009 and not 2007.
As much as you think the 60K bote is a great deal, there are equally good deals on boats that are cheaper to operate and own…
“Tigress” '88 Mako 211
Luke 8:22-25
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Originally posted by PhinHe says at least 3 times my bote. But the cost is still somehow 6 times as great.
Plus you’ve got to add in the extra insurance, 4+ times the oil, 3+ times the fuel, 2+ times the fuel to haul it up and down the road. You get to a figure much more than 6 times what my bote is.
Cracker has said the same thing about his bote.
Will this bote do 4-5 times more than a 25ft world cat?
Depending on the year model, the 225HP Optimaxes may be better motors to rely on than the 2002 Z250’s on scootin’s 60K bote. And this Contender even has an upper control station!
So again, I ask you all whether scootin’s bote is truly worth more than twice as much as the $24,500 bote I have linked to above.
“Tigress” '88 Mako 211
Luke 8:22-25
4 to 5 times a 25 world cat?? Where can you find a 2002 world cat for $12 to 15k? That would be a good deal to Phin but I have not seen one of those.
As far as the boat being 3 to 6 times your boat lets look at this:
IF all you were looking for was a boat to drive the old lady around the harbor with, to shrimp out of, to hang out at the light house, to catch fun fish like sharks and whiting, to pull the kids skiing, to ride around on the lake with, to venture out to the 3 mile reef on calm days and catch a few sheephead, then yes this boat is not 3 to 6 times your boat.
BUT:
If you want to attract a group of smoking hot ladies, take a party to morris island, BLUE water sportfish for fish like tuna, wahoo, dolphin, sailfish, swordfish, etc, to fish offshore tournaments, to not have to “pick your days” as much, to enjoy your ride in the big water when it is choppy, to drastically increase your chances in bad weather, to increase power redundancy, to take more than 2 of your friends fishing, to run to the Bahamas
You all are missing Scoutin’s message. There are some amazing deals out there now. It is not a question of whether that 36 Contender is 3 or 6 times more boat than yours. Anyone who has been looking for a blue water boat or who has bought one in the last 2 to 3 years sees these deals and knows some of these boats where 50% to 75% more a year or two ago. I wish I did not buy my boat 1 1/2 years ago and was in the market now. You can get more boat for your money now than ever before…
Here are a few boats that I think are deals…
2001 31 Contender 55k
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale/249334-2001-31-contender-55k.html
2005 31 Contender F250s 80k (alot of $, but this boat probably 120k 2 years ago)
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale/246337-2005-31-contender-f250s-sale-reduced.html
2003 34 Fountain 2003 Trip 225 Optimax 53K
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale/246537-34-fountain-cc-trips-loaded-sold-took-31-trade.html
2003 31 Contender twin F225s 65k
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale/239859-2003-31-contender-cuddy-new-price-64-900-a.html
Pursuitgang (RealTime)
2486 Triton w/twin Suzuki DF140s (RealTime)
1720 KeyWest 90 Johnson
Thats a nice boat, questionable engines but the contender hull alone is worth that much. Quality will stay even in a recession or Obama plan or whatever the hell is going on. Will we be able to fish next year hell who knows. The mesquito (sp) fleet will be around forever, to me thats a lil more patient group of people. Thats not me but to each his own thats what makes the world work. However bring on april,90 degrees, and the 4-6 ft Im ready.The insurance you speak of is in the ride alone not the coverage just my opionion.
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Phin here is a used 36 yellowfin for $225,125.00. You need to contact this guy and give him your arguement about the mako. I bet he will drop his price.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale/247496-2010-yellowfin-36-offshore.html
If you can’t fix it with a hammer, you’ve got an electrical problem.
Dude aren’t you married? Why are you talking about getting ladies with your bote? Do you need a 60K+ bote to compensate for something?
I have taken my little $8,000 bote offshore 3 times since I’ve had it. I have not even finished setting it up like I want, mind you. Taken shrimpin, dinner cruises with the fiancee and family, basically everything I want/need out of a boat right now.
Caught red snapper, gags, scamps, tilefish, snowies, dolphin, kings, bonita… you know… everything I really have wanted to catch out of the thing.
So please tell me again why I need to spend 60,000 on a bote even if it was a 200,000 bote that somebody felt the need to go bankrupt by owning for the previous 6 years.
I don’t care if the bote is a 2002. I know of 2007 botes that are in worse condition than my 1988 bote. That matters not to me. It may matter to you, but if you are going to use the boat and not try and flip it to make $$$, then what difference does the hull age make? You want a good hull with reliable power on the back, do you not? Or are you trying to compensate for something???
I love messing with you ditch rocket guys. The rationale you give for buying these kinds of rigs is hilarious at times.
Sure, I’d like a 36 yellowfin so I could go fishing when the forecast wasn’t slick. Sure, I’d like to get 10 people on the boat to ride to morris island instead of 4 or 5 people like now comfortably. But I’d have to insure that kind of bote for full value. I’d have to drop $1,000 at the mechanic’s every year just to keep the motors maintained. I’d have to put 800 dollars in fuel in the thing every time we go offshore. Seriously? Is it worth it? People don’t have that kind of literally disposable income right now, and that’s why these boats are being sold for ridiculous prices- but still a lot of money.
Why not just charter the agressor or full pull? It’s cheaper and a much better ride…
“Tigress” '88 Mako 211
Luke 8:22-25
Ditch Rocket I guess that puts it best clasless now you resort to calling names. I stated that it was just my opionion. I guess (the ditch rockets) are the idiots of the world. A world full of Phins would be great. Hey get this I have a 14’ mckee craft I guess I should have a jon boat sorry, by the way I have 500 in it. I dont run the ditch either, I like the ride and speed of the contender.
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when all those student loans are paid off and they begin to pay off…phin’s attitude towards a 60k boat will change.
phin, YOU don’t charter those boats because it’s much more rewarding to go and catch them on your own. i’m not sure your ego could handle it.
How about this, that is a lot of boat for the money. That is prob. what he meant to say. $60k for a 36 upper tier boat with good power is a steal. Having said that, I would never want 3 engines, but there are certainly people that do.
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Originally posted by BR549Ditch Rocket I guess that puts it best clasless now you resort to calling names. I stated that it was just my opionion. I guess (the ditch rockets) are the idiots of the world. A world full of Phins would be great. Hey get this I have a 14’ mckee craft I guess I should have a jon boat sorry, by the way I have 500 in it. I dont run the ditch either, I like the ride and speed of the contender.
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I think that just about sums that guy up. HE wants everyone to be like him. He has all the answers.
Triton 22 LTS
225 Opti