Think i may be pulling the trigger on a boat Monday (survey pending)
Boat is a 1989 2800 Wellcraft W/A w/ twin 2006 yammy 4 strokes on a Stainless Marine bracket installed in 06.
New paint
radar/GPS/Sonar huge screen new in 06
riggers
trailer
everything rewired in 06
pretty much looks brand new.
Doing a sea trial Monday, and asking Price is $20k.
problem is after reading this http://www.boatus.com/jackhornor/power/28Wellcraft.asp
I am feeling a little unsure.
I am getting a survey if the test ride goes well, but the rotted fuel tank and stringer issues is freaking me out.
You think i should just walk away?
I am sure i will get the… go buy a new Contender response. $20k is the top of my budget, and want something i can run offshore in. No i am not taking a 23’ boat offshore. I don’t have the luxury of waiting for 1’ seas.
Any of you have any experience with these boats?
I heard the 250 yammy’s are dogs, any truth to that? I am sure the motors alone are worth $15k, but that doesn’t help me float.
Thanks
for the help
Chris
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have the boat surveyed, sea trial, if you buy then buy a life raft, epirb, sea tow and go catch the fish. no reason to second guess yourself. make sure you file float plans and have a type 1 for everyone.
have the boat surveyed, sea trial, if you buy then buy a life raft, epirb, sea tow and go catch the fish. no reason to second guess yourself. make sure you file float plans and have a type 1 for everyone.
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Already have everything needed to go offshore… My old Trophy has made a couple trips. Just want the piece of mind of newer motors. Didn’t make sense to repower the boat i own now.
By the way… If i do buy it…
Have a 1993 2502 Trophy, all buttons works for $8800
I would personally rather have an older “higher end” boat that is smaller than this one for heading offshore. Some of the older Hydra Sports, Makos, Contenders, SeaCrafts, etc are bullet proof. Just b/c a boat has a larger LOA, doesn’t mean it will ride better. Having said that, size does matter, but that isn’t the only consideration. In this market, I would take my time and find exactly what you want.
I have seen a couple older 23 Regulators on the Hull Truth for low 20’s. I would take that boat all day long over the Wellcraft even though it is smaller. It will hold its value better and you will not be worrying about stuff falling apart while you are at the ledge. Just my opinion. I owned a 1994 Mako 241 and I can’t say enough good things about that boat. They also make a 261 which is very similar but two feet longer. Classicmako.com and classicseacraft.com are good places to start.
I don’t know much about Wellcrafts, but I do know that the boats I mentioned above are very sought after b/c you can run the hulls forever. Make sure you get a really really good survey before you buy any boat.
The problems listed are common to many of the boats of that era. I have several friends that had Wellcraft Coastals and regretted trading. After the survey you will know where you stand. If you need help getting it home call me I’ll be there Tueday.
If you think any 23’ boat is going to ride better than a 28’ boat you are crazy.
I ve been on a 23’ Reg. and was not very impressed… for the price at least.
So let me get this straight… you guys would rather be 50 miles out in a 1994 Mako with original power, compared to a Wellcraft with new Yamaha 4 strakes?
If the Survey is good, i’ll probably get it.
Trying to find a “high end boat” with newer power in my price range is impossible… unless i get a 21’ boat.
250 yamaha four strokes are nice motors,shouldn’t have any issues with them if they have been maintained properlly. beware of older 250 VX76 two stroke Yamahas, they will suck the fuel tank flat
Length of a offshore boat isnt everything. You also want to look at the weight and dead rise. When you were talking about the contender, compare the weight of that 23 to others in its class. The Regulator 23 weighs 3900 dry, and Contender weighs 2300 dry. Thats why you were not impressed with the ride.
The Yamahas are better motors but you won’t have to worry about the Mako hull’s structural integrity, on another note, I have owned Walk Arounds, Cuddies and Center Consoles and the center console will ride better than a WA anyday. Fishability is way better on a CC also. Wasted room with the really unusable cabins. Also walk arounds and cuddy’s are bow heavy due to the weight of the cabin, that is why a CC rides better. That of course is just my opinion. I had the cabins when my kids were toddlers and the wife thought they made more sense.
a cabin in a 25+’ W/A is usable in my opinion… maybe not so much on a 21’.
CC ride better because you drive so far back in the boat. I would think the extra weight in the front would keep a boat from slapping… i’m no expert though.
I’ll agreee for bottom fishing you got more room in a CC. For trolling i would rather have a W/A with a big open rear deck.
Most CC i have been on has less room in the back than a 18’ W/A.
Don’t want to argue CC VS W/A… everyone has there own opinion, and use them for different reasons.I like to spend the night on the water… the Wellcraft has a V birth bed and a set of bunk beds.
Will check out the Mako, Wellcraft, and a 06 23’ Sea Boss (to good of a deal not to look at) tomorrow.
Share this information with the surveyor and make sure he checks these areas. Any boat that age is not without potential problems. If the survey looks good and you like the boat, buy it. If there are issues that can be fixed, then you have some more room to haggle. That’s why you have the survey done.
Well… didn’t even make it to the Surveyor. Noticed the Stringer in front of the fuel tank where it comes to a “T” was cracked at the joint… you could stick a screw driver through it. ■■■■ shame! it was an awsome boat.
The Moko they will need to come down about $2k for it to be a deal. Still working on him though.
What do you think it would cost to repair a Stringer… just where the two connect. the rest of the stringer seems solid. If i can get him to come down to about $16k… might be worth fixing.
Well… didn’t even make it to the Surveyor. Noticed the Stringer in front of the fuel tank where it comes to a “T” was cracked at the joint… you could stick a screw driver through it. ■■■■ shame! it was an awsome boat.
The Moko they will need to come down about $2k for it to be a deal. Still working on him though.
What do you think it would cost to repair a Stringer… just where the two connect. the rest of the stringer seems solid. If i can get him to come down to about $16k… might be worth fixing.
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What is the rush? Why on earth would you buy a boat that you have to replace stringers? Are you seriously out of your mind? What else do you think lies beneath that you haven’t even found? The fact that the boat has plastic thru-hull fittings would be a deal breaker for me. Do you want 21 year old plastic keeping you from sitting at the bottom of the ledge?
Also, on that Mako, don’t buy it. Go to classicmako.com as I mentioned before and research. Most Mako fans wouldn’t own a Mako that is newer than 1995. 1995 is when Mako was purchased from Brunswick and everything went to hell. The pre-95 Makos and especially the 80’s hulls are rock solid. I can tell you this from experience b/c I owned one of these very boats for 5 years. Also, they are foam filled. Additional peace of mind when you are 50 miles out. I would seriously look at the 261. If you want a cuddy, Mako has several in the size range that you are considering. Personally, I wouldn’t want a cuddy for trolling, but seems like you have your mind made up. I have never heard anyone say that a cuddy has more fishing room than a center console. A smaller center console will walk circles around a larger cuddy as far as offshore ride. Th
