My dad and I are considering a Pioneer 220 Baysport. Has anyone had any experience with this model or any model in Pioneer’s line. Any ■■■■■■■■ would be greatly appreciated.
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I’ve been looking at the Pioneer 186 Cape Island. Don’t know anyone who owns one but all the reviews that I have found are great. If you get one first, let me know how you like it and I’ll do the same.
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i’ve had my 186 cape island for 2 1/2 years now. it’s not much of a family boat, but one of the best for fishing.
sorry, but i can’t help with the 220.
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I have a Pioneer 197 Sportfisher with Suzuki 150 4stroke for about a month and I love it. Like they said not much of a “Family” boat but if you’re looking for a fishing boat great ride. Can be a wet ride if the wind is blowing broadside.
Thanks for the replies. So we’re wanting to fish it inshore for reds and flounder, but we also want something that we can take out to the jetties with no problem. However, we’re worried that the 220 is better suited to the jetties than it is inshore. So where do you guys fish your boats?
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both Inshore and offshore, in teh 22 you could even go out to some of the closer reef’s it should be a great boat, I know I have heard of people going out to commanche in that boat so I don’t think you will have a problem for what you want.
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I’ve been out beyond 60 miles on a good day in a 197. I know some guys that have taken the 220 out far as well, it does great on a good day. It may be a little tight sometimes inshore real shallow but its a nice hybrid design bayboat that can handle rougher water as well. quality wise they are fantastic, they build great boats.
Been to the GTH in the 22 baysport, among other places past the 30 fathom curve offshore. They take chop and 2-3ft seas very well if you keep them leveled up with tabs or weight distribution. They do not come out of the water as easily as other 20-24ft bay boats I’ve been on when you run them pretty hard in sloppy stuff. They are heavy… The 24V trolling motors available now make fishing them inshore easily done though. The baysport is laid out to fish inshore moreso than offshore because of the raised decks in the front and back with a livewell in the center of the boat in each of those decks. Lots of storage, and lots of room because of Pioneer’s console and T top setup. It is big for a “bay boat” mostly because of the bow flare and heavier build, but there are still folks who love fishing them with trolling motors on lake murray and inshore saltwater. I’d want one over a lot of other brands in their price range because of their durability, the better ride, and the very good fit and finish. If you look close throughout these boats and compare them to the other boats the difference may start to become apparent to you. Looking at the boat and others sitting on a lot, they may look similar enough. Take each for a ride on a day when the wind’s blowing a bit, and you’ll see how different they are. This is not a putdown of any other brands; it is just a straight up endorsement of Pioneer boats because I personally like them a lot. They are South Carolina boats, and the company does things right. Go to pioneerownersclub.com, and you can talk to owners of the 22 baysport directly and in detail regarding their experiences and reasons for chosing Pioneers.
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One of these days, I’m gonna stop by their Walterboro factory and find out how they are coming along on the 220SportFish. I’ll make a full report.
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I’ll have to check out that PBO site. I’m not familiar with boats so pardon this question, but what would be the difference between the 220 SF and the 220 BS?
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Originally posted by Punishment4GluttonsI’ll have to check out that PBO site. I’m not familiar with boats so pardon this question, but what would be the difference between the 220 SF and the 220 BS?
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the current 22 baysport is more of a bayboat design, the 22 sportfish is more of an offshore design, open, no raised casting platforms, big hull/deep v, sharper deadrise, etc. it will be like a big brother version of their 20’ sportfish as far as i know.
The 22 sportfish is rumored to have 22 degrees of deadrise at the transom. The 197 sportfish has 18 degrees I think. The 220 baysport has something like 14 degrees. The baysport still has a sharp entry and big bow flare that gives it a good ride in rough water, however. The deadrise per weight and balance of the hull on the 197 sportfish is perfect, and hopefully the 220 sportfish will have the same kind of balance and hull angles to make it ride like a bigger boat the same way the 197 does. No telling for sure until someone gets it out in the ocean though.
Also, the 197 sportfish and 220 baysport have the same console, but the 197SF has a livewell and bait station built into the leaning post while the 220BS has a metal leaning post with removable storage under the seat cushion and room for a cooler under the support legs. From what I have been told, the 220 sportfish will have a different console (probably bigger) and a leaning post with built in livewell like the 197SF (this will probably be bigger also), which is a better offshore layout. The other difference will probably be under deck storage than the 197. There will be more room for this in a 22 with more deadrise and more beam compared to the 197. I think some people have actually seen the molds or parts of the boat if not an actual boat at the factory. I have not seen any pictures or verified details on specs though.
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