Just had a buddy text me a pic his friend caught in the cooper river. It measured 78". I believe therecord for black tip was broke a year or so ago, but any ideas how much a shark this size would weigh?
Nevermind. Fish has already been steaked out and marinating for this evenings dinner. Clarification of location was actually combee or cohambee river in beaufort, which is around where the last one was caught i belive. fish was estimated at 150/160. hine sight is 20/20 i guess.cc
Ouch… Could’ve, would’ve, should’ve. Probably did not want all the fame and fortune anyway. 
Set the trap boys, we going to pass through them again!!
Yum, nothing like a mercury bomb for dinner - hope the kids had chicken fingers…
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Originally posted by SublimeOneYum, nothing like a mercury bomb for dinner - hope the kids had chicken fingers…
I know…look at all the people dropping dead from mercury poisoning in seafood…NOT ONE CAES EVER!!!
Get the facts on Mercury…
Myth: Much of the seafood sold has dangerously high levels of mercury
Fact: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has set an action level of 1 part-per-million for mercury in fish. Legally, the FDA can prohibit the sale of any fish that exceeds this level. It is important to note that according to the FDA this action level “was established to limit consumers’ methyl mercury exposure to levels 10 times lower than the lowest levels associated with adverse effects.” Therefore any fish that spikes above the 1 ppm action level contains just one-tenth the amount of mercury that might be a cause for concern. Fish that contain “high levels” according to this number (such as swordfish at .97) are still significantly lower than the speculative danger level.
http://www.aboutseafood.com/press/press-releases/media-still-perpetuating-mercury-myth
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NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
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Originally posted by SublimeOneYum, nothing like a mercury bomb for dinner - hope the kids had chicken fingers…
I would much rather take my chances with a fish that I caught, cleaned, and prepared… than a piece of hormone shot up, lived its life in a pile of its own poo, and then slaughtered by a mexican in a factory…chicken.
The concern is not “people dropping dead from mercury poisoning in seafood”, but rather the long-term effects of mercury on developing (read vulnerable) nervous systems, primarily fetuses and children under 14 yrs old.
Many species of sharks (especially large, long-lived individuals) commonly exceed FDA mercury guidelines, hence the recommendation by DHEC to “Do not eat any” shark from the Atlantic if you fall within a subpopulation of concern (under 14 yrs old).
There’s nothing dangerous, in terms of mercury, with eating most all fish species in our waters, BUT there are some (sharks, kings, golden tile) that are best avoided by those with concerns, hence my comment “hope the kids had chicken fingers”.
For those of you who believe this is “junk science” as stated by sites like www.mercuryfacts.org then I can’t help you. If you want facts, with literature cites to back them up, I’d suggest listening to the folks charged with protecting human health concerns in SC (www.scdhec.gov/environment/water/fish/) or those tasked with studying SC natural resources (www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/img/mm_paper.pdf).
“For those of you who believe this is “junk science” as stated by sites like www.mercuryfacts.org then I can’t help you. If you want facts, with literature cites to back them up, I’d suggest listening to the folks charged with protecting human health concerns in SC (www.scdhec.gov/environment/water/fish/) or those tasked with studying SC natural resources (www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/img/mm_paper.pdf).”
I know…the Govt would never lie to us. Just think, if they had not stopped us from catching Red snapper, they would all be extinct.
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http://www.stellamarisseafood.com/
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
Sells, really? You’re suggesting the two aforementioned agencies are conspiring to provide misinformation, in the form of mercury advisories on fish, to the citizens of SC? Let me guess: so they can get grant money to do more research.
Let’s look a little deeper into your source: www.mercuryfacts.org, a project of The Center for Consumer Freedom which “is supported by restaurants, food companies and more than 1,000 concerned individuals.” I’m sure they know lots more about mercury in fish than a couple silly state agencies. And the food companies aren’t biased or anything…
Show me 1 case of mercury toxicty poisoning in Iceland, Norway, or Japan, that can be blamed on fish…you won’t find one. Also, if Methl Mercury is supposed to retard brain function in children, why is it that the Japanese, who eat more seafood per capita than any other nation, are superior to american students???
next you will be telling me that farmed salmon are full of PCB’s
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http://www.stellamarisseafood.com/
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
How about 2 cases:
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Minimata, Kyushu, Japan - thousands poisoned through consumption of fish found to have mercury concentrations of 10-30 ppm (wet wt.). Source: EPA. 1997b. Mercury Report to Congress, Washington DC, Vol.IV: An assessment of exposure to mercury in the United States.
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Agano River, Japan - Source: EPA. 1997. A Mercury Report to Congress, Washington Dc, Vol. 1: Executive Summary.
The reason Japanese students are superior to American students goes way beyond this discussion.
You are good!!! Made me have to really dig. But alas, the results are not natural contamination, but systematic dumping in those bays that lead to the poisoning.
“It was a village mystery and experts were called in. After a series of tests on the cats’ bodies, scientists determined that It was mercury poisoning, the result of many decades of dumping mercury-contaminated waste by a chemical company on Kyushu Island that spilled into the bay with other concentrated pollutants already there, including PCBs and heavy metals.”
Again natural levels are of no danger, and it is a myth. I bet you think cheap scallops come from skate wings…
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http://www.stellamarisseafood.com/
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
Sells, I appreciate your spirit and resolve!
Yes, those cases occured due to direct discharge of mercury into the water, what you called “not natural contamination”. Although mercury does occur naturally in the environment, the presence of it in fish is not “natural” by any means. Whether it is discharged from a pipe into the river, or settles down from the clouds, the mechanism of transport isn’t important. What’s important is the levels in the fish we consume, the levels in our bodies, and most importantly, what effect those levels have on our human health.
I think where we disagree is concerning what level is acceptable. You believe (I think) that the levels in fish here are safe across the board and the EPA recommended guidelines are way to conservative, due to the fact that no one is “dropping dead” from mercury poisoning after consuming fish.
As I mentioned earlier, certain populations are extremely sensitive to mercury and the effects are well documented (see cite below). It’s these populations that should be especially protected, especially since they cannot make an informed choice themselves. It’s our responsibility as adults to make that decision for them. No?
Lastly, sells, how comfortable are you really when it comes to your lack of concern of mercury effects on the human body? Would you allow your young children to eat large coastal sharks, 80 lb. kings, and charcoal bellies throughout their youth?
Another source: NRC (National Research Council - Academy of Natural Sciences and Engineering). 2000. Toxicological effects of methylmercury (Executive Summary). National Academy Press. 9p.
What I think is a hoot is, that we all ate BIG kings, BIG sharks, and every other type of “contaminated” fish when we were kids, our grandparents and parents ate them as well, this was before our Gubberment told us they were bad for us.
I think we can agree to disagree on mercury in blacktips…but what about those phosphorus coated glowing shrimp???
Now let me go, I have some lead paint chips to snack on.
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http://www.stellamarisseafood.com/
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
Thanks for the boost of confidence Sells! I will continue to eat catfish out of our swamps and rivers now! Not that I ever stopped.
Had a discussion with a DNR agent 5 years ago, you could eat Bass out of the big salkehatchie and not the little. I asked what was dumping in the little that was not in the Big Salkehatchie? To which he answered nothing that he knew of. Further questioning lead to the discovery that mercury is naturally occuring and not always from man made sources.
Agent also said that there were some studies on decaying leaves that had possably absorbed some lead out of the atmosphere while blowing in the breeze that could affect some areas more than others. I have went further but never had any hard numbers on what actual mercury levels on tested fish were. Maybe Sublime can help, as for now I am not personally worried about it.
I guess it’s kind of like eating the fat off your steak or bacon only to a lesser extent.
Fred - the current advisories (including the Salkehatchie’s) can be found, by water body at: http://www.scdhec.gov/environment/water/fish/.
The actual mercury amounts used to produce the advisories are not published, that I’m aware of, but you could check with the contacts at the link above. You could potentially request any data reports or technical reports that go into the production of the advisories each year. It never hurts to ask.
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Originally posted by MurrymakerJust had a buddy text me a pic his friend caught in the cooper river. It measured 78". I believe therecord for black tip was broke a year or so ago, but any ideas how much a shark this size would weigh?
You would need an accurate girth measurement. Also need the fork length measurement, then you could pretty accurately estimate it’s weight. I think the current state record is 163 lbs., which is a husky blacktip. I have landed them up to 117 lbs. (76") and had some in the 72" length come in right at 100 lbs… For this fish to be in the record category it would probably need to be a female ( possibly even pregnant), with a girth around the middle 40’s. That’s fat for a blacktip. They are usually pretty slim and streamlined, but like in the case of the recent state record fish it was a beast. To find a pretty accurate weight for sharks take: FL x Girth(sq.)/ 800. This is usually pretty accurate as I’ve experienced over lots of years comparing the actual weight with the formula. I had a Dusky back in the early 80’s that weighed in at 228 and the formula had it at 225 so that shows you how accurate it can be. Anyhow, nice fish, very nice blacktip.
Baccy causes cancer, emphesyma(sp), heart issue, BP issues etc.
Alcohol causes cirrohsis, digestive problems, cancer, pancreatic problems, etc.
Yada Yada Yada,
Everything out there causes some form of something that can kill you. I reckon I’ll take my chances eating a fish or two every now and then. Sometimes you have to be willing to step off the curb after looking both ways for that oncoming bus. After all we all eventually get hit by the bus.
Man posts a report about a nice size shark being caught and it turns into a science report on Mercury poisoning and how you shouldn’t ever eat those fish. I believe I’d be more inclined to side with Sells on this one.
Mark
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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn’t go so far as to call a dog filthy but they’re definitely dirty. But, a dog’s got personality. Personality goes a long way.
“Life’s tough…It’s even tougher if you’re stupid” John Wayne
Our downstairs tenant is a psuedo vegetarian. She still ate a lot of fish, mostly tuna, until her hairs started falling out in clumps. The doctor said it was some effects of mercury poisoning. She has backed off and is now more aware of which fish carry the most mercury.
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Originally posted by Palmetto BugOur downstairs tenant is a psuedo vegetarian. She still ate a lot of fish, mostly tuna, until her hairs started falling out in clumps. The doctor said it was some effects of mercury poisoning. She has backed off and is now more aware of which fish carry the most mercury.
BULL $ HIT…NOT ONE DOCUMENTED, US CASE EVER!!!
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http://www.stellamarisseafood.com/
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”