Bull redfish rant

Dear lord… channel 5 is on the scene. Red lives matter will be protesting in there kayaks.

2010 17’ JVX Carolina Skiff 40 Yamaha tiller

2002 14’ Alumacraft 30 Yamaha tiller

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Originally posted by 7cs

Hiding a hook in something a fish thinks is food, dragging it up, exposing it to attack or exhaustion while it fights for it’s life, holding it out of the water while it further struggles for oxygen to get a self-serving pic, then poking a hole in it that wasn’t there naturally so it can maybe get back down and live, maybe, while acting like it’s a puppy in a kill shelter. Lol.


This is exactly why you and I get along… When its not football season.

L to the OL

Water this year isn’t hotter than normal. I was at WB jetties today and it was 79 degrees. No doubt more people are finding and catching the big, breeder Reds. They definitely need to learn how to get them freed ASAP…Myself. …I have enough fish pics. I straight ass let them go asap.

Easiest thing to do is change the regs to require circle hooks if you are fishing BAIT. Too many times, and with all species the fish is allowed to " swallow " it and then there is the FLW backwards back breaking hook set that drives a conventional J hook into the mediastinum ( heart, esophagus, etc) of a fish that will kill it then or later. Research after research has shown this so why not change the laws or your methods to protect what you love to do?

2015 201 Bay Scout
150 Yamaha

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Originally posted by Flat Fly n

Easiest thing to do is change the regs to require circle hooks if you are fishing BAIT. Too many times, and with all species the fish is allowed to " swallow " it and then there is the FLW backwards back breaking hook set that drives a conventional J hook into the mediastinum ( heart, esophagus, etc) of a fish that will kill it then or later. Research after research has shown this so why not change the laws or your methods to protect what you love to do</font id=“red”>?

2015 201 Bay Scout
150 Yamaha


Because you would have a small army screaming about “don’t tell me what to do blah, blah, blah…” For every voice on here that would speak out in support of some form of change to address this issue, sadly, there are voices out there that would fight change. Some would use the “defense” I mentioned. Some would use the “lack of evidence” defense. Some would use the “we don’t care how you do it (insert different part of the country here)” defense. Sadly, ignorance runs rampant around every corner.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.

Having caught a good many big reds from the jetties to way up the wando…the biggest mistake I’ve seen, including people on my own boat (causing me to go for a swim after said fish) is simply not reviving them long enough…they feel a little life and they let go of the fish and it comes up sideways 10 yards downstream…I always wait for a strong takeoff/water to the face, before letting go of them…sometimes it takes a minute, sometimes it takes 10 (which might feel like forever). Sometimes in the rush to put lines back out we rush the release. I try to teach whoever is with me to enjoy the release just as much as the fight.

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Originally posted by Flat Fly n

mediastinum


that’s a made up word until Barbawang gives the go ahead

Yall can practice catch and release if you want to…

I practice cornmeal and grease!!!

:smiley:

“Endeavor to Persevere.
Give,Give… Never Take.”
EC

Ill out fish a j hook with a circle every time fishing for big reds and most fish that aren’t super teeth.

I catch too many bull reds on plastic and top water while fishing for trout on light tackle in less than 5 feet of water. Venting is not an issue, but reviving the exhausted fish is. I’ve caught bulls, jacks, and 5-6’ sharks on top water plugs in 3’ of water. While the strike is exciting, they all require special attention when releasing.

Harold Wilcox
www.haroldshogwash.com

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Originally posted by hwilcox

I catch too many bull reds on plastic and top water while fishing for trout on light tackle in less than 5 feet of water. Venting is not an issue, but reviving the exhausted fish is. I’ve caught bulls, jacks, and 5-6’ sharks on top water plugs in 3’ of water. While the strike is exciting, they all require special attention when releasing.

Harold Wilcox
www.haroldshogwash.com


Couldn’t agree more. I too spend most of my time in shallow water casting lures. No fish is released until it swims away under its own power. I hold on to the tail tight enough to where they have to “kick” out of my grip. And for God’s sake, don’t do the whole “back and forth” in the water method of reviving! Hold the fish by the tail, preferably facing into the current, and hold them there until they swim away as I described. The fish will swim away when it feels it is strong enough to do so.

No matter how much it hurts, how dark it gets, or how far you fall…you are never out of the fight.

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Originally posted by 40inchreds

Ill out fish a j hook with a circle every time fishing for big reds and most fish that aren’t super teeth.


I could take that challenge with the smallest j-hook in my box :wink:.

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Originally posted by Fishingpox

Which vents them better , a 9mm or a 38 special ?


I’m sorry, but this is hilarious… Thanks for the laugh.


“There’s a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning” -J. Buffett

Just bought this guy after reading the thread, good info. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DIH2KG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

2012 176CC Keywest 115 hp Yamaha

I’ll link to this thread again, with some pretty easy to make descending tools:
http://old.charlestonfishing.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=146671

Here’s a store-bought version:

Here’s a DIY version (username “claim” on this forum):

We have made some by melting lead into a length of scrap stainless tube that we welded a cap on the bottom of.


1994 Hewes Redfisher 18, 2004 Yamaha 150 VMAX
Malibu X-Factor Kayak

  1. Guessing how this fish died is pure speculation.
  2. Only a small percentage of fishermen, likely more experienced ones, are going to participate on this forum.
  3. The experienced fishermen probably don’t want to hear complaints every time a dead fish turns up.
  4. As long as there’s a slot limit, a handful of large and small fish will die for a multitude of reasons that are beyond the angler’s control. It’s a risk DNR is willing to take so that more survive.

Can we move on and let this thread die? I can only hope. . .

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Originally posted by flywatt
  1. Guessing how this fish died is pure speculation.
  2. Only a small percentage of fishermen, likely more experienced ones, are going to participate on this forum.
  3. The experienced fishermen probably don’t want to hear complaints every time a dead fish turns up.
  4. As long as there’s a slot limit, a handful of large and small fish will die for a multitude of reasons that are beyond the angler’s control. It’s a risk DNR is willing to take so that more survive.

Can we move on and let this thread die? I can only hope. . .


It's up to the people to let the thread die. It's pretty obvious that this fish was not vented however.

Keith McPherson

The first thing I did when i got my boat was go online and look at info on charleston. This is what I ended up on. I learned some things and some places. Though repetitive to some its helpful for others. Some people like to learn new tips and tricks.

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Originally posted by flywatt
  1. Guessing how this fish died is pure speculation.
  2. Only a small percentage of fishermen, likely more experienced ones, are going to participate on this forum.
  3. The experienced fishermen probably don’t want to hear complaints every time a dead fish turns up.
  4. As long as there’s a slot limit, a handful of large and small fish will die for a multitude of reasons that are beyond the angler’s control. It’s a risk DNR is willing to take so that more survive.

Can we move on and let this thread die? I can only hope. . .


NO

Agree with mdaddy. No