Dang…that’s a story…
Is it possible there was already water trapped up in the bow somehow?
Polly Wanna…
Magezzi, Doesnt the Spot have a self test feature? I have a ACR ELECTRONICS AquaLink 406 GPS and it has a self test feature. It gives you 5 self tests, might be time I use one of those 5 self tests.
Cracker, I don’t think so. Everything was dry when we left the dock, and the boat ran well on the way out.
ON a side note, I thought this was interesting: One of the crew sent me a link to this thread (http://www.thehulltruth.com/5009230-post15.html) on THT – the boat they were referring to was a SeaCat SL5, the exact same hull. Like I said before, though – I don’t think that this applies to all cats. I think that it’s really only those that aren’t designed to lift the bow when it starts to dive into a steep face. Almost every modern offshore cat that you see will have a significant increase in height at the bow, or sponsons that get significantly wider near the deck (or both).
I also agree with the guy in the THT thread that if my cat were a cuddy model, we would never have found ourselves in this situation.
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Wilderness Systems Tarpon 160
Anyone remember the Super Suds out of MI about 5 years ago…? Similar situation, and the Captain lost his life. I believe if I owned one of these boats, I would strip it of everything and turn it into a reef.
Thanks for sharing the details. I’ve been through that scenario in my head so many times. I need to test my PLB again.
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2004 Yam 25 2-Stroke
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Thanks for sharing your story. I think its invaluable to many, many others who can learn from your experiences and survive a day like that. Sounds like you did a very honorable job as captain. Kudos.
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Glad everyone is safe! Check bilge pumps regularly. Having plugs on the boat like shown is also a very good idea. Mostly glad to hear everyone did not have to stay in the water long. Boats do not float - the air that is in boats floats. You can bet I will be looking at all that before my next trip.
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Bryson, What model PLB do you have?
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Twin 225 4 stoke Yammies
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quote:It wasn't similar. They had a bunch of heavy deck coolers and people all move to one side of the boat while underway in a beam sea.
Originally posted by RedstripeAnyone remember the Super Suds out of MI about 5 years ago…? Similar situation, and the Captain lost his life. I believe if I owned one of these boats, I would strip it of everything and turn it into a reef.
Polly Wanna…
quote:I have to think there was already water up there or a significant amount of added weight for it to have dug in those seas. Once it got too heavy, you started taking it in from the drain through hulls. It seems like I recall seeing what appeared to be baffle pieces toward the front sponsons on that hull. Perhaps one or both were holding water due to a blockage or something which made it bow heavy and the situation compounded itself. Not throwing stones. You got everyone home. Plus, fishing sucked Saturday, so you got a good story out of the deal...
Originally posted by brysonCracker, I don’t think so. Everything was dry when we left the dock, and the boat ran well on the way out.
ON a side note, I thought this was interesting: One of the crew sent me a link to this thread (http://www.thehulltruth.com/5009230-post15.html) on THT – the boat they were referring to was a SeaCat SL5, the exact same hull. Like I said before, though – I don’t think that this applies to all cats. I think that it’s really only those that aren’t designed to lift the bow when it starts to dive into a steep face. Almost every modern offshore cat that you see will have a significant increase in height at the bow, or sponsons that get significantly wider near the deck (or both).
I also agree with the guy in the THT thread that if my cat were a cuddy model, we would never have found ourselves in this situation.
2000 Sportcraft Sport Cat 255 - “Morning Bite”
Wilderness Systems Tarpon 160
I thought it was similar in that the bow dug into a wave. Either way that boat design isn’t one I would have. Some of those posts on THT are crazy.
Originally posted by oops_lostMagezzi, Doesnt the Spot have a self test feature? I have a ACR ELECTRONICS AquaLink 406 GPS and it has a self test feature. It gives you 5 self tests, might be time I use one of those 5 self tests.
Oops I have an original SPOT which does not have a self test feature. I do however hit the OK button when i am loading up before heading off and generally get the checkin text within 5 mins or so.
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quote:Bow over the wave isn't going to sink a cat. I've submarined mine (not me driving actually) before on a rough day and was standing shin deep in water. Ran right out the scuppers... sellsfish was taking a nap and wasn't happy when woke up floating on a bean bag sock and wet... True story...
Originally posted by RedstripeI thought it was similar in that the bow dug into a wave. Either way that boat design isn’t one I would have. Some of those posts on THT are crazy.
quote:Could be the design of that particular hull... I've ran my Glacier Bay many times
Originally posted by Crackerquote:I have to think there was already water up there or a significant amount of added weight for it to have dug in those seas. Once it got too heavy, you started taking it in from the drain through hulls. It seems like I recall seeing what appeared to be baffle pieces toward the front sponsons on that hull. Perhaps one or both were holding water due to a blockage or something which made it bow heavy and the situation compounded itself. Not throwing stones. You got everyone home. Plus, fishing sucked Saturday, so you got a good story out of the deal...
Originally posted by brysonCracker, I don’t think so. Everything was dry when we left the dock, and the boat ran well on the way out.
ON a side note, I thought this was interesting: One of the crew sent me a link to this thread (http://www.thehulltruth.com/5009230-post15.html) on THT – the boat they were referring to was a SeaCat SL5, the exact same hull. Like I said before, though – I don’t think that this applies to all cats. I think that it’s really only those that aren’t designed to lift the bow when it starts to dive into a steep face. Almost every modern offshore cat that you see will have a significant increase in height at the bow, or sponsons that get significantly wider near the deck (or both).
I also agree with the guy in the THT thread that if my cat were a cuddy model, we would never have found ourselves in this situation.
2000 Sportcraft Sport Cat 255 - “Morning Bite”
Wilderness Systems Tarpon 160
Glad everyone is OK. Appreciate you posting the details. Amazing and scary how fast a boat can go under.
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Originally posted by skinneejquote:
Originally posted by Crackerquote:I have to think there was already water up there or a significant amount of added weight for it to have dug in those seas. Once it got too heavy, you started taking it in from the drain through hulls. It seems like I recall seeing what appeared to be baffle pieces toward the front sponsons on that hull. Perhaps one or both were holding water due to a blockage or something which made it bow heavy and the situation compounded itself. Not throwing stones. You got everyone home. Plus, fishing sucked Saturday, so you got a good story out of the d
Originally posted by brysonCracker, I don’t think so. Everything was dry when we left the dock, and the boat ran well on the way out.
ON a side note, I thought this was interesting: One of the crew sent me a link to this thread (http://www.thehulltruth.com/5009230-post15.html) on THT – the boat they were referring to was a SeaCat SL5, the exact same hull. Like I said before, though – I don’t think that this applies to all cats. I think that it’s really only those that aren’t designed to lift the bow when it starts to dive into a steep face. Almost every modern offshore cat that you see will have a significant increase in height at the bow, or sponsons that get significantly wider near the deck (or both).
I also agree with the guy in the THT thread that if my cat were a cuddy model, we would never have found ourselves in this situation.
2000 Sportcraft Sport Cat 255 - “Morning Bite”
Wilderness Systems Tarpon 160
Glad you shared. You probably saved some other lives, too. My question: I have a 25ft. Boston Whaler Outrage built in 1986. It has a low transom and no bilge - all foam filled. All waves it’s taken just wash through. Whaler says it won’t sink, but it’s got a pretty substantial t-top. If it rolled in a really big sea, would it right itself? A couple of you know the boat, and your thinking particularly interests me.
Had to be a big bean bag to float Sellsfish.
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‘04 Renegade 29’ 2 225’s
‘97 Maycraft 17’ 40 hp
quote:
Originally posted by mattc14Had to be a big bean bag to float Sellsfish.
‘87 Pacemaker 31’ SF
‘04 Renegade 29’ 2 225’s
‘97 Maycraft 17’ 40 hp
Ouch