We need to do the same thing here in GA before the few fish we have left are wiped out for good. It’s been a sad process to watch happen over the past few years, hopefully SC will learn from our folly.
I wish more guides would practice catch and release inshore. Most of us already police ourselves and rarely kill fish. Others feel the need to stroke their ego by laying them out on the cleaning table in front of all the tourists in hopes they can book the next day’s opening.
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Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.
I usually only keep a few fish a year. Part of the reason I’ve become interested in shark fishing is because I’m not fishing for meat anyway. Sounds like a decent idea but I know somebody will be butthurt about losing his fishing spot.
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I moved here from NC and I can tell you that yall’s state is far ahead of NC as far as managing inshore fisheries. We have miles of gill nets stretched through our creeks and sounds yet still are able to keep a decent amount of reds and flounder for recreational fishing.
I know folks in SC aren’t happy with the numbers of redfish, but your state is doing much better than others
I just don’t know about all of this. I cant see anglers having this impact. I really haven’t been back there in awhile. and the section on this board from there is non existent. It has to be something else.
There may be a dozen guides there. Im putting the boat in myself and checking it out.
I don’t know how I feel about this. Is the redfish population really struggling that much there or do the guides just want a special area that is protected and nearly guaranteed to produce consistent catch and release numbers to satisfy their clients.
Redfish sanctuary for the locals in the name of science. Garbage science. I debated the legislator proposing this on Facebook. He admits that the study would be “begging the question”. In other words, the proposal will show the impact is caused by fisherman whether or not fisherman are the problem (if there is really a problem).
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I rarely keep a red anyway on only fish this area a few times a year so I don’t have much of a dog in this fight. I can see where it would be nice to study a designated area to see how much impact recreational fisher may or may/not have. I’d be interested in the study.
But, in order to have effective regulation you must have effective enforcement.
Except for the few members of the Debordieu community, the proposed area is accessed by crossing Winyah & Mud Bay. Large areas of water that hold redfish.
How will a SCDNR officer know where a kept fish came from unless they are dedicated to patrolling this small inlet?
Our DNR is spread thin already and concentrating officers in this tiny area may hurt the enforcement of existing laws.
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The bank fisherman are hauling in over sized reds.A friend told me some of the locals were selling Redfish out of coolers.I notified DNR.Watch for that mess on Daniel island under the bridge.They have a cooler in a truck and run up and hide the fish in that cooler.If the man comes they have empty coolers next to them.
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Don’t we already have a restricted area in Charleston with lots of structure and habitat for redfish and other inshore species? Charleston Naval Weapons Station?!?! Short of working for Uncle Sam I can think of a way to fish it.
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Laws and studies regarding our natural resources should come through SCDNR who have the knowledge and expertise. It would fine for a politician to request DNR look into a situation brought to their attention by knowledgeable guides and fisherman but not make new laws. Our elected officials should authorize SCDNR to make changes to rules and regulations regarding our natural resources instead of changing them with little or no knowledge.
I agree the redfish population is way down from what is was four or five years ago and do not have a problem with any study including catch and release only as long it is recommended by DNR. But if we are going to make laws by public opinion rather than scientific data, my suggestion to Rep. Goldfinch would be to have a moratorium on guide fishing in the north inlet and see if this has an affect on the population.
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Originally posted by oristorobLaws and studies regarding our natural resources should come through SCDNR who have the knowledge and expertise. It would fine for a politician to request DNR look into a situation brought to their attention by knowledgeable guides and fisherman but not make new laws. Our elected officials should authorize SCDNR to make changes to rules and regulations regarding our natural resources instead of changing them with little or no knowledge.
Well that will never happen! No self respecting politician in the history of South Carolina, past, present, or future, will ever give up any political control or authority over anything, ever. It matters not how much sense it makes or how much good it could do. It’ ain’t happnin’
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Originally posted by BosunI moved here from NC and I can tell you that yall’s state is far ahead of NC as far as managing inshore fisheries. We have miles of gill nets stretched through our creeks and sounds yet still are able to keep a decent amount of reds and flounder for recreational fishing.
The battle NC Recreational Fisherpeople fight is because Commercial Fishermen there are well organized, and have a very well funded, organized Political Commercial Fishing Lobby. They block any attempt from recreational fishermen or the scientific community that wants to control or stop inshore netting, etc.
What actual “on the water” testimony do you have to bring to the table? I will state again. Redfish populations(inshore/juvenile)are WAY down state wide, and I have no doubt recreational fishing pressure is NOT to blame. I agree with what you say per what is being said by our legislators. Every time I go to NI, I do not encounter much fishing pressure (comparatively) as is the same case in St. Helena Sound and Wadmalaw Sound. IMO, there are other factors responsible.
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Originally posted by Big ShrimpinRedfin sanctuary for the locals in the name of science. Garbage science. I debated the legislator proposing this on Facebook. He admits that the study would be “begging the question”. In other words, the proposal will show the impact is caused by fisherman whether or not fisherman are the problem (if there is really a problem).
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My on the water testimony has nothing to do with this subject. My understanding of the scientific method and my desire to keep regulations at the absolute minimum amount necessary for sportsman and wildlife is what I offer.
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Speaking on behalf of ignorance muddies the waters in reaching a sensible resolution to the problem.
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Originally posted by Big ShrimpinMy on the water testimony has nothing to do with this subject. My understanding of the scientific method and my desire to keep regulations at the absolute minimum amount necessary for sportsman and wildlife is what I offer.
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“People who speak in metaphors should shampoo my crotch.” ~Jack Nicholson
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Originally posted by RADDADDYSpeaking on behalf of ignorance muddies the waters in reaching a sensible resolution to the problem.
Do you know what a metaphor is? If so, what am I comparing?
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Originally posted by Big Shrimpin“People who speak in metaphors should shampoo my crotch.” ~Jack Nicholson
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Originally posted by RADDADDYSpeaking on behalf of ignorance muddies the waters in reaching a sensible resolution to the problem.