Rick,
the 150 hpdi is also a great motor, but it can get very expensive if something fails.
the yamaha f150 with a 6 year warranty is very hard to beat.
I know you had some major issues with the suzukis, but yamaha is NOT suzuki.
yamaha has had some failures, but I have never had yamaha even consider rebuilding a powerhead like suzuki made you do. yamaha sends a powerhead, we dress it with your electrical, and you are back on the water within 4 days. DHEC has had 2 failures, and within 5 days of failure, the boats were back on the water. Yamaha covered all costs, including new oil and filter.
This is obviously a very sore subject for me. My budget has me looking at the OX66…Let me get a boat going again I will most certainly repower with said Yami. Can you sell them? Charles & Boatline were superb in trying to keep my on the water…going out of their way time and time again…it is sad though, what Suzuki did to me and put Boatline through…
I'm on my third ox66 and have never had one go bad. Feeding clean fuel is the biggest maint. item. Low press. pumps 2 yrs., hp screen/cleaning 1-2, filters 2x yr., based on ~300 hr yr. They do not have the charging capability of the new 4s and will load up w/lots of slow trolling.
Do you do this yourself…and how accessible are the lp and hp systems and components…
Capt. Rick,
Have had very good luck with the OX66"s currently running a pair with over 2700hrs.These motors are very thirsty and love oil but the dependability has been great.This year had a wire go bad on one of the harness"s Charleston Marine fixed it but recommended a new one. Other than that 1 o2 sensor,a few water pumps,vst filters,and had the diapham pumps replaced one time.
I'm on my third ox66 and have never had one go bad. Feeding clean fuel is the biggest maint. item. Low press. pumps 2 yrs., hp screen/cleaning 1-2, filters 2x yr., based on ~300 hr yr. They do not have the charging capability of the new 4s and will load up w/lots of slow trolling.
Do you do this yourself…and how accessible are the lp and hp systems and components…
Yes. No special tools to change parts. I forgot to mention the O2 sensor. 22mm wrench required but the rest is easy. The lp pumps are port side, outside of block. The hp is inside the vst tank, alum. tank port side. I remove it and place in bench vise...carefully! You can come look if you want. Miller Time is my BIL.
I have never been on a boat powered by Yamaha F150’s that didn’t have it or them stalling when shifting between forward and reverse when running shrimp poles or looking at the bottom or maneuvering at the dock, etc. Every single last F150 I have ever run when on others’ boats has had the same issue. Some worse than others. I really wish they’d address that problem. And I really wish they had a 175HP motor available in the same weight block like Suzuki offers with their DF150 and DF175. The DF175 is a far stronger and smoother running motor than a Yamaha F150 IMO, but it suffers badly compared to yamaha because of suzuki’s parts and support-
Perhaps the F150’s I have experience running were all in need of more frequent adjustments/service like Rick has mentioned being a pain with the suzuki’s.
With the Federal govt. mandating more and more ethanol in our unleaded gasoline, you might want to look more closely at diesel powered boats. Ethanol burns dry, and that kills an outboard where lubrication is most important. This is another argument for 2 strokes being a better option in the long run for people putting high hours on their motors. Two strokes get oil no matter what- it’s in the fuel. Just don’t premix your 2 cycle oil and your gas and let it sit for too long because then the ethanol will separate and all be at the bottom of your tank so you’re burning straight ethanol and no oil through your motor!
Rick,
the 150 hpdi is also a great motor, but it can get very expensive if something fails.
the yamaha f150 with a 6 year warranty is very hard to beat.
I know you had some major issues with the suzukis, but yamaha is NOT suzuki.
yamaha has had some failures, but I have never had yamaha even consider rebuilding a powerhead like suzuki made you do. yamaha sends a powerhead, we dress it with your electrical, and you are back on the water within 4 days. DHEC has had 2 failures, and within 5 days of failure, the boats were back on the water. Yamaha covered all costs, including new oil and filter.
Im glad a good mechanic realizes Yamaha is the best over all. Come down to Texas ChrisV and ask these guys what the best motors are. Mercury optipops and etecs. Drives me crazy how these guys are more concerned about speed and riding the new fad instead of staying with proven technology.
From reds to marlin you got it.
2001 210 Sea Fox
2009 Yamaha F150
Varies with the territory and end use and who one asks. Go up to WA State and one will see mostly Mercs. on the back of boats, most the commercial guys up there use Mariners. Around here one sees mostly Yamahas. Just like with cars, Ford vs Chevy. Definitly a few lemons out there tho with all the manufacturers.
I liked my old 90 2 stroke yamaha pretty good but it sucked fuel and oil. I’m kinda fond of my 225 yamaha 4 stroke but it’s a dog.I love my etec 150’s because they are powerful,reliable,fuel efficient,low maintenance made in USA awesome engines.Just had 300hr service done not a glich so far other than one I caused due to grounding.
optis are great motors, but for commercial use, they can get very expensive when parts fail, just like an HPDI.
I know rick asked about 2 strokes, but for long term use, I would go with the F150 yamaha
Well…just like Top2Bottom said. In WA you see Mercury/Mariner on the majority of the boats. Every now and then you’ll see a Evinrude or Johnson. I didn’t know Yamaha was that big of a outboard engine manufacturer until I got stationed here. There is a reason why the two different regions vary so drastically with the engine makes. The SeaTow boats that I have seen here have had twin Yammys. My guess for the preference of Yamaha here is that parts and service are more available and there are probably more highly qualified yamaha techinicians. If that is true, get a Yamaha…all outboards will break, might as well have one that you know you can be back on the water quick and maybe a little cheaper
I don't need a salesman to tell me a 300xs is lightest, fastest and most fuel efficent in its class. You seem to be a salesman should I have bought a yamaha 300 two stroke back when I repowered 3 years ago? From what I recall they could'nt keep power powerheads from blowing on those motors even the Yamaha dealers did'nt want to sell them and did'nt they weigh close to 600 pounds and burn a ton of fuel and put out a good bit less than 300 hp?
You can get opti oil for $30 a gallon filling you own jugs, and some charge 40 for yamalube. Just keeping it real! If you have never run an Opti you wouldn’t believe how little oil they burn.
I don't need a salesman to tell me a 300xs is lightest, fastest and most fuel efficent in its class. You seem to be a salesman should I have bought a yamaha 300 two stroke back when I repowered 3 years ago? From what I recall they could'nt keep power powerheads from blowing on those motors even the Yamaha dealers did'nt want to sell them and did'nt they weigh close to 600 pounds and burn a ton of fuel and put out a good bit less than 300 hp?
a racing motor is the most fuel efficient? it is actually only 30 lbs less and you only get 2 years warranty. Hey our VMAX HPDIs did have some problems but guess what yamaha was quick to fix it with the series 2 and give an extra year warranty.I believe the problems stimulated from ethanol which most all fuel injected motors had problems with that.
From reds to marlin you got it.
2001 210 Sea Fox
2009 Yamaha F150
You can get opti oil for $30 a gallon filling you own jugs, and some charge 40 for yamalube. Just keeping it real! If you have never run an Opti you wouldn’t believe how little oil they burn.
wow who ever charges 40 for yamalube has some serious mark up. You can buy bulk yamalube oil for 17 dollars a gallon.
From reds to marlin you got it.
2001 210 Sea Fox
2009 Yamaha F150
