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Originally posted by Chris Caudle…serious discourse with you is unfortunately not really possible.
I think Skinnij’s response illustrated this adequately.
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I also think it nicely illustrates the unfortunate folly of Sola Scriptura.
quote:This poster wants to call them boys to lessen the impact of what they have done. Did you work on the Zimmerman case too?
Originally posted by Chris CaudleI’ll let your statements stand for what they are, as serious discourse with you is unfortunately not really possible.
I think a better course here would be to state that your judgment of the hearts of the boys who committed that murder as incapable of repentance seems to suggest that your reasoning is on the level with God Himself.
While there are indeed many instances where human death was approved of by God, and even commanded by God, there are also a great many more that demonstrate the limitless mercy of God, and His calls to repentance. That is pretty prevalent theme in the New Testament, but perhaps you will still assume that I have not read it.
These boys who you claim will always remain animals were made in the Image of God - like you, like me, like their victim.
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And I think that your response adequately illustrates what we refer to as a “cop out”.
I’m still looking for where I implied that they were “incapable of repentance”… I’m also looking for the text where I implied that God would not forgive them.
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Originally posted by CaptFritzThose could have been Obamas sons or even O himself
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well played.
Careful shevlin. Fritz may read too deep into your compliment and assume you meant something malicious… He doesn’t really like it when people respond to his posts… That, and when you touch his ears… I recommend just staying quiet around him… No sudden moves, loud noises, or eye contact…
The silence of the race pimps speaks volumes about there agenda which is in concert with the media. No money, no votes, no TV face time. The skinny socialist yucks it up with a bunch of old ball players. Then he goes on a bus tour to hustle students to get in deeper debt. Animals are not criminals have a reason for there actions. This criminal trio with no regard for any body or any thing and will be the darlings of the libturds with all of the usual crap about what good boys they are. The race pimps along with the media will do a complete makeover of them.
shoot the little “boy” bastages… my 2 1/2 cents
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Originally posted by skinneejI’m still looking for where I implied that they were “incapable of repentance”… I’m also looking for the text where I implied that God would not forgive them.
I’m not surprised you see my response as a ‘cop out,’ however I would hope you understand that arguing with a straw man is pointless. Perhaps you will go back and take another look at your own words.
While your questions here continue on your previous straw man argument, I will answer them because I think it is important for you to understand a finite point about repentance:
At the point of death, repentance is no longer possible - it is a grace only available to the living. I refer back to your comments about the New Testament - as one who professes to be knowledgeable on its contents, you should be quite familiar with the repeated calls for man to repent ‘before it is too late.’
With that in mind, a claim that those boys (and anyone that will say that a teenager is not a boy is frankly not willing to accept the current state of American adolescence) should be ‘euthanized because they will always be animals’ is your own implication that they are incapable of repentance, and that it is better to destroy them now because - in your judgment - they will always be animals.
I am sorry, but your words and your judgment are just that.
To offer an alternate perspective, one may consider that these boys are not now a threat to you, or to me, or to our society. They are held in prison and they await trial and justice for their crimes.
There exists no true cause to execute them to protect innocents, and therefore, an execution could well be viewed as unnecessary. In my opinion, it is unnecessary.
To ‘euthanize’ these boys could very well remove the chance for their repentance, and ultimat
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This poster wants to call them boys to lessen the impact of what they have done. Did you work on the Zimmerman case too?
Are fifteen, sixteen and seventeen year old males adults?
Legally…no. Pratically…no way.
What do you know about me to determine that I want to diminish or lessen the fact that a terrible murder took place?
I remember many of the terribly stupid things I did as a teenager, and even as a young adult. I never took a human life, but I also don’t pretend that my own sins are any less terrible, or that I am any better than these boys in the eyes of God.
“Let’s be honest. If you read the New Testament, you wouldn’t be Catholic.”
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SkinneeJ
And what about the Aaron Hernandez murder? Shocking!
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Originally posted by Chris CaudleI think a better course here would be to state that your judgment of the hearts of the boys who committed that murder as incapable of repentance seems to suggest that your reasoning is on the level with God Himself.
Straw man? Do you even know what that is? Read YOUR text above. You CLEARLY said that I judged them as “incapable of repentance”!!! Did you not write the above text?
I never said anything of the sort… You might want to check out the passages about bearing false witness…
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Originally posted by skinneejI’m still looking for where I implied that they were “incapable of repentance”… I’m also looking for the text where I implied that God would not forgive them.
I’m not surprised you see my response as a ‘cop out,’ however I would hope you understand that arguing with a straw man is pointless. Perhaps you will go back and take another look at your own words.
While your questions here continue on your previous straw man argument, I will answer them because I think it is important for you to understand a finite point about repentance:
At the point of death, repentance is no longer possible - it is a grace only available to the living. I refer back to your comments about the New Testament - as one who professes to be knowledgeable on its contents, you should be quite familiar with the repeated calls for man to repent ‘before it is too late.’
Well duh! The whole concept is that you need to repent sooner than later. If you wait your 5 years on death row and don’t repent, and get executed, you waited too long… Honestly, there is no better chance to repent than someone has on death row. You literally know the day that you are going to die… That’s more of a chance to repent than a lot of people who get taken like a “thief in the night” ever get…
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With that in mind, a claim that those boys (and anyone that will say that a teenager is not a boy is frankly not willing to accept the current
I’m also curious as to why you would quote something that I said in your tagline. Smells like some good old vengeance to me!!! Doesn’t your two millennia of church wisdom taper that sort of passion???Congrats on taking hypocrisy to the next level!
Heck, I am still baffled as to why a Christian would attempt to public ally call another Christian out on an internet forum full of non-Christians!?!? Surely, we are commanded to help and guide each other to become better Christians. Want to guess what book I picked that up from? You might want to rethink your strategy a bit!
Wow.
Apparently I touched a nerve there.
While your insults do not go unnoticed, I’m not any more offended by them than I am by your anti-Catholic bias I purposefully quoted in my signature line.
I’ll leave it at this, because as I said from the beginning, a meaningful conversation with you is not possible - advocating that teenage boys should be ‘euthanized’ because they ‘will always be animals’ while claiming to have a good understanding of Jesus is a tremendous contradiction.
Judging by the way you responded, I think you see this too - you just won’t admit it.
Have a great weekend.
“Let’s be honest. If you read the New Testament, you wouldn’t be Catholic.”…SkinneeJ
Seems nobody remembers the Marley Lion murder after that whole Treyvon Martin BS. Although if you live outside of chucktown you probably never heard of marley lion…
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quote:If that is what helps you sleep at night... Again, I'm not sure why you think that Jesus told you to call other Christians out on public forums. I think you need to update your copy... This wasn't a religious debate until you made it so. Keep picking fights with other Christians and sleep good at night thinking you are doing "God's work".
Originally posted by Chris CaudleWow.
Apparently I touched a nerve there.
While your insults do not go unnoticed, I’m not any more offended by them than I am by your anti-Catholic bias I purposefully quoted in my signature line.
I’ll leave it at this, because as I said from the beginning, a meaningful conversation with you is not possible - advocating that teenage boys should be ‘euthanized’ because they ‘will always be animals’ while claiming to have a good understanding of Jesus is a tremendous contradiction.
Judging by the way you responded, I think you see this too - you just won’t admit it.
Have a great weekend.
“Let’s be honest. If you read the New Testament, you wouldn’t be Catholic.”…SkinneeJ
If I am not worth the discussion, then do not respond to my posts to begin with. Everyone on here knows that you are an alias. You must get really bored to research Bible passages all day to pick fights with other Christians.
Keep up the good fight “Chris Caudle”. Let us know when you really actually read the NT…
And yes, I still believe that it’s perfectly reasonable to punish murderers, especially ones that prey on people and devastate other’s families and lives for fun.
They need to make a “Religion” thread…
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Everyone on here knows that you are an alias.
Keep up the good fight “Chris Caudle”. Let us know when you really actually read the NT…
This is sadly funny…I understand it is difficult for you to keep insults, name calling and the chip you have on your shoulder against Catholics out of your posts. I recognize it, and it is why most every thread you participate in turns into a display of belligerence. You get yourself worked up and then go all over the place demanding answers to thirty random questions that take 90degree tangents and completely muddy the water. People just walk away from it.
The ‘alias’ part though…that’s a little funny - funny in the way odd people are funny. Worrying about whether a man who uses his real name on an internet forum is an ‘alias or not’ is odd. I think you care a little too much about being right on the internet.
There is another poster on this site who carries on much the same way you do here. Wonder why you two can’t discuss religion or politics without behaving like this?
As is also typical, you will have the last word…
“Let’s be honest. If you read the New Testament, you wouldn’t be Catholic.”…SkinneeJ