looks pretty cut and dry
The only people I’ve ever heard complain about the rules and regs not being “black and white” are the people that either have been busted breaking the rules and regs, looking for a “loop” hole or a way to bend the rules and regs in their favor, or those that don’t like being told what to do with “their wild game.” Everyone else seems to be able to comprehend them just fine. Again, the rules and regs in SC leave PLENTY of room for enjoyment and great memory making potential even if they are followed to the letter.
In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.
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Yamaha 115 SHO
pretty sure its illegal to record someone without there knowledge…lol
No it is not illegal to record someone, or take pictures of them in a public setting. You can not use them for anything but personal use.
I guess I have missed the objective of posting here.
The point to begin with was exploring the options that this situation could have been handled. I guess the general agreement is that DNR handled exactly as they should have.
Very well, I will say that I was wrong in the set up of the field. My bad.
DNR saw the field and supposedly documented it, they could have stopped by and said “hey how are you, btw you know you can or can’t do this or that…”
DNR knew we had an afternoon shoot planned, could have called or stopped by ad said “insert appropriate warning or don’t do that statement”
DNR sprung a trap. Ok that is their legal right to do.
DNR threatened, cowerst, intimidated and embarrassed me and my guest.
I was wrong, there were/are better means and methods to handle these situations. Ways that can create friendship ad cooperation, DNR made the choice to do that.
That is the point I was trying to make.
quote:you're guilty, and you've lost your gourd if you think DNR is going to write a warning for hunting over bait.
Originally posted by ReelShockI guess I have missed the objective of posting here.
The point to begin with was exploring the options that this situation could have been handled. I guess the general agreement is that DNR handled exactly as they should have.
Very well, I will say that I was wrong in the set up of the field. My bad.
DNR saw the field and supposedly documented it, they could have stopped by and said “hey how are you, btw you know you can or can’t do this or that…”
DNR knew we had an afternoon shoot planned, could have called or stopped by ad said “insert appropriate warning or don’t do that statement”
DNR sprung a trap. Ok that is their legal right to do.
DNR threatened, cowerst, intimidated and embarrassed me and my guest.I was wrong, there were/are better means and methods to handle these situations. Ways that can create friendship ad cooperation, DNR made the choice to do that.
That is the point I was trying to make.
How did dnr set a trap? you baited the “trap” you really think they go around documenting bait sites so they can track down the owners to wave them off hunting the baited area? admit that you intentionally baited, and attempted to hunt over the bait and move on. Guarantee you it will not be the last visit that you have from DNR on this field.
A TRAP??? LMAO!!!
You did this to yourself but now you know what NOT to do (hopefully). Chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on.
And the others are right, you’re definitely now on the radar. You’ll be seeing Mr Greenjeans in the future. Chances are, he’ll see you first.
In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.
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Yamaha 115 SHO
we weren’t, there was no bait in the field when we were hunting. By technical def we were wrong, I get that.
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Originally posted by poly ballquote:you're guilty, and you've lost your gourd if you think DNR is going to write a warning for hunting over bait.
Originally posted by ReelShockI guess I have missed the objective of posting here.
The point to begin with was exploring the options that this situation could have been handled. I guess the general agreement is that DNR handled exactly as they should have.
Very well, I will say that I was wrong in the set up of the field. My bad.
DNR saw the field and supposedly documented it, they could have stopped by and said “hey how are you, btw you know you can or can’t do this or that…”
DNR knew we had an afternoon shoot planned, could have called or stopped by ad said “insert appropriate warning or don’t do that statement”
DNR sprung a trap. Ok that is their legal right to do.
DNR threatened, cowerst, intimidated and embarrassed me and my guest.I was wrong, there were/are better means and methods to handle these situations. Ways that can create friendship ad cooperation, DNR made the choice to do that.
That is the point I was trying to make.
So no one sees that this could be handled a different way?
A way to protect the wildlife, build a relationship, and move forward in a positive direction?
What I had hoped to find was better ways to rebuild this relationship, I guess I am wrong. DNR is to be viewed as the over lord of absolute law and there to punish. Got it.
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Originally posted by ReelShockpretty sure its illegal to record someone without there knowledge…lol
No it is not illegal to record someone, or take pictures of them in a public setting. You can not use them for anything but personal use.
I do know something about this one from personal experience. Anyone can record any conversation that they are involved in. If someone calls me I can record every word that’s said without any notice , and if I want I could rent a big room and replay it for anyone to hear. Every time you are detained by LEO your being recorded and often videoed. And the officer can play it in a big room full of people - often called a court room!
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I do know something about this one from personal experience. Anyone can record any conversation that they are involved in. If someone calls me I can record every word that's said without any notice , and if I want I could rent a big room and replay it for anyone to hear. Every time you are detained by LEO your being recorded and often videoed. And the officer can play it in a big room full of people - often called a court room!
Actually that varies state to state, but it’s true in GA and SC. Only one party of the conversation has to be aware of the recording. Which means it is illegal for a 3rd party to record both of you without one person knowing it.
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Originally posted by ReelShockSo no one sees that this could be handled a different way?
A way to protect the wildlife, build a relationship, and move forward in a positive direction?
What I had hoped to find was better ways to rebuild this relationship, I guess I am wrong. DNR is to be viewed as the over lord of absolute law and there to punish. Got it.
Just because you haven’t received the answer you want, doesn’t mean you haven’t received the correct answer. The “different way to handle this” would’ve been to do it by the book. What do you want to hear? Yes, the DNR officer could’ve let you go with a warning but he doesn’t have to and he didn’t. That doesn’t mean he handled it wrong. Yes, the DNR officer is the authority on game laws in the field and it is their job to enforce or “punish” anyone operating outside of the game laws.
It’s coming across like you’re begging for someone to say “you’re right, Mr. Greenjeans was just picking on you” but he wasn’t. By doing this the way you did, you made his job easy. You don’t have to like it or agree with it. Fact is most people that find themselves on the wrong side of the law rarely do like it or agree with it.
I believe the sentiment is pretty clear here. If you’re still looking for someone to take your side, you might want to present your case to a different crowd.
In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.
Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO
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Originally posted by ReelShockSo no one sees that this could be handled a different way? Why? If they came and said “hey dude, you can’t hunt on this field until so and so day,” then you wouldn’t have learned your lesson. You would have just tried to hide it better next time. By “springing a trap” on you, they made their point and guaranteed you learned your lesson. Don’t forget, YOU could have handled this a different way also. By consulting the law and knowing it back and forth, this situation could have been avoided. If the law is unclear, there are avenues for clarification</font id=“red”>
A way to protect the wildlife, build a relationship, and move forward in a positive direction? They protected the wildlife. They probably tried it civilly and like has been said a hundred times, it seems you escalated the situation, so there goes that relationship. </font id=“red”>
What I had hoped to find was better ways to rebuild this relationship, I guess I am wrong. DNR is to be viewed as the over lord of absolute law and there to punish. Got it. Not true. Just keepers of the laws. Break them and you’ll be punished. It’s simple, really.</font id=“red”>
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In the future, where every stranger poses a potential threat, knowing the predator mindset is the only safe haven.
Xpress H20B Bay Series
Yamaha 115 SHO
quote:Dude, you admitted spreading 30lbs of sunflower seed. Did you not admit that in your 2nd post?
Originally posted by ReelShockwe weren’t, there was no bait in the field when we were hunting. By technical def we were wrong, I get that.
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Originally posted by poly ballquote:you're guilty, and you've lost your gourd if you think DNR is going to write a warning for hunting over bait.
Originally posted by ReelShockI guess I have missed the objective of posting here.
The point to begin with was exploring the options that this situation could have been handled. I guess the general agreement is that DNR handled exactly as they should have.
Very well, I will say that I was wrong in the set up of the field. My bad.
DNR saw the field and supposedly documented it, they could have stopped by and said “hey how are you, btw you know you can or can’t do this or that…”
DNR knew we had an afternoon shoot planned, could have called or stopped by ad said “insert appropriate warning or don’t do that statement”
DNR sprung a trap. Ok that is their legal right to do.
DNR threatened, cowerst, intimidated and embarrassed me and my guest.I was wrong, there were/are better means and methods to handle these situations. Ways that can create friendship ad cooperation, DNR made the choice to do that.
That is the point I was trying to make.
Sounds as if you are now trying to turn this in