How can you be fined for baiting a field??
I get SHOOTING over a baited field.
If I want to feed the birds what is the problem???
I’ve got a baited field in my back yard, right off the deck. It’s called a bird feeder, been there 20 years and it’s a big one. Gets a bunch of doves, and other birds. Never been fined for it 
Never shot anything feeding around it either though. I don’t know.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
Private land?
Private land. 30 lbs of seed in a sunflower field of 8 acres.
$ 475.00 paid in the field.
What? You can bait. All bait must be removed 10 days before a hunt.
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Originally posted by ReelShockPrivate land. 30 lbs of seed in a sunflower field of 8 acres.
$ 475.00 paid in the field.
File for a jury trial and full discovery. This one stinks. There are some over-reaching LEO’s out there.
DNR has too much authority and too many good ole boys.
Fight it; its the only way laws will ever get changed. I still find it absolutely ridiculous that DNR doesn’t have to have a warrant to trespass on your land as they wish. Regardless of what they say, the wildlife doesn’t belong to them; it belongs to the people.
Apparently the Constitution doesn’t apply to them.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Bait is allowed, but like Skinnee said, must be completely removed 10 days before you hunt. I have copied some SCDNR laws below.
Without knowing the full and complete story, there are some thing to consider. If you had a field of sunflower, why did you find the need to “supplement”? Was the field manipulated in a normal agricultural operation? I planted sunflower and corn, and have more than enough seed on the ground for the birds, and plenty of seed left in the heads to fall out later. If your sunflower didn’t make because of poor soil conditions, drought, deer or whatever, you cant go broadcast sunflower seed and get away with it. Ray Charles could see that.
For how long?
An area is considered baited for ten days following the complete removal of all salt, grain or other feed.
What is baiting?
Baiting means the direct or indirect placing, exposing, depositing, distributing or scattering of salt, grain, or other feed that could serve as a lure or attraction for migratory game birds to, on, or over any areas where hunters are attempting to take them.
What about normal agricultural operations?
Normal agricultural operation means a normal agricultural planting, harvesting, post-harvest manipulation or agricultural practice that is conducted in accordance with official recommendations of State Extension Specialists of the Cooperative Extension Service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Now, Fall wheat planting the rules have been adjusted, but you better be in line with the guidelines set. Thank a SC lawmaker for twisting Clemson extension into this baiting procedure. Be dam sure you don’t “plant” the same strip as before, they aren’t stupid.
If a field has been top sown with wheat, make sure it was planted according to Clemson Extension Service guidelines between October 1 and November 30 when evenly spread on a well-prepared seed bed established by heavy tilling.
You must know the rules, if a field is baited, or you suspect that its baited, leave. It is your responsibility to
Good post, Poly Ball.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
readers digest question. I always understood if you plant the field u can manipulate what was grown but you are not allowed to bring “outside” seed source into the field? So did someone bring a outside source of seeds into your field Shock? Is the field within view of tree hugging neighbors?
quote:Admitted 30lbs of sunflower was brought in field, not good.
Originally posted by Tigershrk21readers digest question. I always understood if you plant the field u can manipulate what was grown but you are not allowed to bring “outside” seed source into the field? So did someone bring a outside source of seeds into your field Shock? Is the field within view of tree hugging neighbors?
Private land. 30 lbs of seed in a sunflower field of 8 acres.
$ 475.00 paid in the field.
I read that Poly but I don’t know why is he shocked he got the ticket if he was the person spreading the seed or was that What dnr said was the reason for the ticket but it is untrue.
If he had a planted field why not use a wood chipper. Thought this was funny on Dnr website.
Can I Use My Yard Chipper Shredder to Manipulate Crops in a Dove Field?
Yes. It is legal to use a yard chipper shredder (or similar device) to manipulate crops in a dove field, but you must manipulate the crop at the place in the field where the crop is grown. You may not transport the crop to another area of the field to shred it and you may not add any other grain, feed or seed to the chipper during this process.
For example, if you hand pick corn from a standing row, you must immediately place it in the yard chipper shredder and manipulate the corn cob adjacent to the stalk from which it was picked. You may not place the corn in a bucket or bag and move it to another portion of the field to be manipulated. Placing the corn in a bucket or in a bag is considered storage on the field where grown. The corn cannot legally be shredded onto the field after it has been stored in any manner.
Perhaps he was pissed he received the ticket? That’s why I commented on not knowing the full and complete story.
If I had to guess, I would say the sunflower did not fully mature and he tried to sweeten it up a little?
And yes, the old chipper/shredder is a legit practice, somewhat primitive, but legit. Personally, I bought an older silage cutter that takes care of that with ease. The silage cutter and shredder are good only for corn that has completely dried.
I’ve read all these posts and am still confused. Reel said he spread seed but didn’t hunt it. And he still gets fined? How so?
He mentioned “SHOOTING” over a baited field, but my question is… “Did you have a gun and APPEAR to be hunting even if you had not SHOT yet?”
In other words, “HUNTING” over bait is illegal whether or not you actually pull the trigger…
ReelShock needs to tell the entire story, somethings missing.
Like I said, we don’t know full and complete story.
I’ve always had a problem with the DNR accessing private property without a warrant. 23 Sailfish is correct. But as with most legislation, they will grab power if no one sets them straight and wrestles it back. We need the DNR, theres a lot of low life violators out there. certainly worth pondering.
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. - Ben Franklin
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Originally posted by crappie happyI’ve always had a problem with the DNR accessing private property without a warrant.
I’ve never had one issue with DNR accessing private property, unless there was a reason to. DNR is welcome on my property 24/7.
Here is my reasoning, when it comes to an issue with a rogue hunter there is no time for a warrant. Action is generally required quick, fast, and in a hurry. IF not the perp goes free to do more harm.
“If Bruce Jenner can keep his wiener and be called a woman, I can keep my firearms and be considered disarmed.”
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Originally posted by Cracker LarryGood post, Poly Ball.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
Crap… I don’t want to give Bolly a pat on the back… but … that was a good reply.
“If Bruce Jenner can keep his wiener and be called a woman, I can keep my firearms and be considered disarmed.”
Okay long story.
The sunflower field made very little. We bush hog Stripes through it busted some heads up and got some seed on the ground. We added about 30 pounds over 7 Acres to sweeten the pot.
On the 10th day after doing so we had a Dove shoot which I participated in.
The law enforcement officer wrote me a ticket for baiting a dove field. Another ticket for shooting over a baited the field.
The main character of this. I had to pay each of those fines in cash in the field immediately and plead guilty or the four other hunters in the field were to receive $475 tickets for hunting over a baited field.
In my book that’s extortion, strong arming…