What are the rules on deploying Fish Aggregating Devices around our ledge areas 50+ miles offshore? Legal, illegal? Do tournaments have specific rules against the use of FAD’s?
SCDNR has said that it is illegal… That being said, I think a lawyer could potentially find the gray area…
From: Wally Jenkins [mailto:JenkinsW@dnr.sc.gov]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 8:20 AM
To: <me>
Subject: Re: FADs in SC Waters
The conclusion that anchored un permitted FADS are illegal based on a number of federal laws including NEPA the clean water act, on our coast the right whale take reduction act and the fact that it is not listed as a permitted gear for permitted commercial or recreational fishermen. Finally placing these FADs which are constructed of non biodegradable materials with no intent to retrieve them makes them not only sources of pollution but quasi artificial reefs which are expressly prohibited even in nation wide permit 4. In addition the us coastguard considers them a hazard to navigation. This is the opinion of nmfs division of law enforcement. Thanks for your interest.
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On Jun 20, 2014, at 12:36 AM, <Removed my email address> wrote:
Hello Mr. Jenkins,
I recently came across the article here: http://govcup.dnr.sc.gov/Newsletter/t_and_r_v19n2.pdf
This is the article in which you mention the creation of FADs for the offshore fishery. You mention that it is illegal for any HMS permitted vessel to deploy them or fish them in US waters. Can you please send me a link to the law that states this is the case? It seems very clear from the NWP 4 that the intent of the Army Corps of Engineers fully intended the use of these for both recreational and commercial fisherman. Note that there are no commercial duck hunters, so clearly the ?duck blind? provision demonstrates the inclusion of recreational anglers.
Please advise.
Thanks!
<me>
Wow, thanks skinnee. That pretty much sums it up. So what do you do when you know that a vessel(s) has deployed these in prior months and are now showing up at tournament docks with prize/calcutta winning fish? Technically, it would be virtually impossible to prove, but the odor of suspicion is enough to turn away most honoable fisherman from participating.
Note: My inquiry is in no way related to any specific SC tournament. Rather a tournament within the Atlantic Tunas/HMS jurisdiction.
Go ahead and let us know where this FAD is (coordinates please) so we can go investigate as well
Edgewater 245cc
quote:Depends on the tournament. Some of the big money tournaments are using polygraph nowadays for top 3 winners.
Originally posted by Irish WakeTechnically, it would be virtually impossible to prove,
I’ve always heard about polygraphs in big money tournaments, but is it really true? They’re no longer admissible as evidence in court trials because they’re so unreliable.
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Originally posted by jtsnakeI’ve always heard about polygraphs in big money tournaments, but is it really true? They’re no longer admissible as evidence in court trials because they’re so unreliable.
You’re not in court…
http://www.thebigrock.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/2015RulesLetterSize.pdf
Rule #19
Cost a team 1.2 million dollars in 2010:
http://hamptonroads.com/2010/08/lie-detectors-put-fishermens-tales-test
Thanks. I knew about the boat that was disqualified but didn’t realize they used a polygraph.
OH SNAP
Just do what you want and don’t advertise it…same applies to ARS, snowies, etc.
Next time you come in, come heavy, or not at all…
One could take several gallons of menhaden oil and a big blaster type water gun and lube up a weed line. Then give it an hour - they will come!
Or spread out some newspaper and make your own weed line for the day. It’s like “The Field of Dreams”. If you build it, they will come
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
Or drop a mooring buoy in 120 feet of water with 80 feet of line attached to it, a big arse float, and a whole bunch of stuff attached to it! Like…CD’s and other shiny objects! How would anyone ever know?