Last night (newyears eve) it seemed all my neighbors were shooting fire works, so I went to the barn and found a bag of outdated flares. I climed in my boat and retrieve my gun out of my ditch bag, to my supprise I had some from 1997 to 2013. all shot well. like new! taught they were bad after 3 years! Is it unlafull to have old ones in the boat if you have new ones? It make sence to me to have all you can carry even if outdated! Thank the Lord I’ve never been in a situation where I have had to use them yet!
Not sure if it is “unlawful”, I just make sure the outdated ones are at the bottom so if stopped, I can show the man, current flares.
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I heard that it is OK to have out of date flares, but you can’t store them in the same area as the new ones. May want to double check on that! I put my old ones in a ziplock bag and stuck them in a different compartment just in case. I may have to take them out and make my own fireworks!
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Yeah, I keep the current ones in a little dry box and the older ones under a first aid kit. He’ll never see the old ones…Ha Ha.
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I keep all my expired ones, it’s not illegal as long as you have some that are not expired. If you ever really need them you won’t regret having them.
Capt. Larry Teuton
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what is the regs on flares are they required on inshore boats like jon boats or pontoons or just offshore boats?
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boatpoor,
Just wanted to let you know that lighting off flares in a non-emergency is illegal.
I wouldnt worry about having expired flares on the boat as long as you have the required number of un-expired also.
Expired flares are supposed to be turned in for proper disposal.
Expired flares are perfectly legal on you boat as long as you have enough up to date one to meet the law. If you are ever in an emergency situation use the expired ones first as they will most likely work. If one does not work just discard it overboard and try another. You can have them all together in the same contain also. If you are a commercial boat you can not have expired flares on board.
As boatpoor is it very illegal set off flares in a not-emergency situation. The coast guard now is even offering reward up to $2000.00 for info on false distress cases. And if you don’t believe about the seriousness of false distress read below.
Below are some past hoax and false distress cases.
United States v. Flores, No. 09-00161 (N.D. Ohio Nov. 23, 2009) (defendant pled guilty, sentenced to thirty-six (36) months supervised release, and ordered to pay $112,735.70 in restitution.
United States v. Johnson, No. 04-00117 (W.D. Mich. Jan. 27, 2005) (defendant pled guilty, sentenced to twenty-four (24) months imprisonment, and ordered to pay $56,958.30 in restitution.
United States v. Baldwin, No. 03-05356 (W.D. Wash. Mar. 5, 2004) (defendant pled guilty, sentenced to twelve (12) months and one (1) day imprisonment followed by thirty-six (36) months of supervised release, and ordered to pay $194,587.70 in restitution)
In United States v. Feener, No. 05-10287 (D. Mass. July 26, 2005), the defendant was charged under 14 U.S.C. ? 88 (c) for having radioed the Coast Guard from his home on two separate occasions, both times claiming to be the captain of a fishing vessel taking on water. Both of the defendant’s calls resulted in futile, hours-long searches and the deployment of Coast Guard air and marine assets. The defendant ultimately pled guilty to sending a false distress message in violation of 14 U.S.C. ? 88(c); he was sentenced to eighteen (18) months imprisonment, to be followed by thirty-six (36) months supervised release, and was ordered to pay $82,004.00 in restitution to the U.S. Coast Guard.
boatpoor, let me get this right, you said you went to your barn and got the flares and then the gun from your boat,(i figure it was on a trailer) so the flares you fired off were not on or near the water but inshore, right?, and it was the same time that your neighbors were shooting off fireworks for new years night, right, that was probably the best time to fire them puppies off, i do not think that the US Coastguard would pursue inshore flare shots on new years night nor would they think you were shooting them in a distress situation ,if the truth were known that is probably how the coast guard gets rid of their outdated flares,lol, so you can stop hiding from them,the United States vs that Chad is referencing shows that the Coastguard is not to be messed with but in those cases they were real idiots and pushed the limits way too far, lesson for all of us, lol but my question is what boats are required to have them, for example i fish the cooper river am i required to have them on my 16 ft jon boat inshore or in the harbour?
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quote:maybe not required but I would have them just in case you need them.If you dont get the answer to your question check the regulations book
Originally posted by paintblendboatpoor, let me get this right, you said you went to your barn and got the flares and then the gun from your boat,(i figure it was on a trailer) so the flares you fired off were not on or near the water but inshore, right?, and it was the same time that your neighbors were shooting off fireworks for new years night, right, that was probably the best time to fire them puppies off, i do not think that the US Coastguard would pursue inshore flare shots on new years night nor would they think you were shooting them in a distress situation ,if the truth were known that is probably how the coast guard gets rid of their outdated flares,lol, so you can stop hiding from them,the United States vs that Chad is referencing shows that the Coastguard is not to be messed with but in those cases they were real idiots and pushed the limits way too far, lesson for all of us, lol but my question is what boats are required to have them, for example i fish the cooper river am i required to have them on my 16 ft jon boat inshore or in the harbour?
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Double D.
My Understanding is that you are required to carry fares on the waters of Bulls bay an St Helena Sound but no other inshore waters and all off shore waters! I carry them on my fresh water boats also. A Game warden told me to shoot them off on new years eve.
i will probably just call DNR because i really have not found the definitive answer, i have flares on my 24ft boat but i take it offshore on occasion, but trying to find out if i fish the jetties in my jon boat,
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Yes, you do need them while fishing the jetties in your jon boat.
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/regs/boating.html
quote:
Flares Flares are required for vessels in coastal waters.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
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thanks, all i could find was necessary in coastal waters but no other specifics,i was quite sure the jetties were coastal but where is the line drawn in the harbor
Didn’t I read on here that there is exemption for short trips(less than a 30 min ride from the ramp)? I did…because even though i have current flares, i printed out a copy of the statute and stuffed it down in my dry bag in case i forget to replace them one day.
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i wanted my boat to be cg legal/inspected… so i got all new everything as far as safty equipment. i had roughly 2 packs of flares and the gun style 12g ones.
a local coast guard friend was over and wanted to shoot them off in the drive way… im sure if he does it most anyone can.
regs for flares
coastal waters are defined as any body of water with an opening larger than 2 miles across
Charleston harbor is less than 2 miles at the mouth.
once you pass the mouth and are at the jetties, you are in coastal waters
bulls bay requires flares.
you can have old flares, you can not have them stored with the new flares and flare gun (safety issue old flares could be bad and not function)