Flounder and Red Drum Fishing 101

So I am from the upstate and try to get down and fish Charleston waters as much as time allows me to. I have caught the hang of Sheephead fishing and definitely Whiting. My next fish I wanna learn how to catch is Floundee and Red Drum. Done research ans even youtube videos. Do any of you guys have any good pointers to help me on my journey on finding and catching Flounder and Red Drum???
Thanks In Advance…

PS. Definitely not asking for your secret spots

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Originally posted by gonefishing

So I am from the upstate and try to get down and fish Charleston waters as much as time allows me to. I have caught the hang of Sheephead fishing and definitely Whiting. My next fish I wanna learn how to catch is Floundee and Red Drum. Done research ans even youtube videos. Do any of you guys have any good pointers to help me on my journey on finding and catching Flounder and Red Drum???
Thanks In Advance…

PS. Definitely not asking for your secret spots


Flounders like minnows…Killie Fish are the best but mud minnows will do. Find a creek with some sand near the beach and usually best out going. Float and get ready for some good eating. Good luck Sheephead Fool…soon to be Flounder Fool.

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Good luck Sheephead Fool...soon to be Flounder Fool.

I knew it.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”, but really, who cares?

Hire a guide.

Hilton Head - unofficial shark bite capital of the world.

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Originally posted by PeaPod

Hire a guide.

Hilton Head - unofficial shark bite capital of the world.


Do we have any guides that specifically target Flounder… other than gigging?

“live and let live” … “those that deserve it.”

DNR’s website gives you everything you need to know…great info to be had here…http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/species/southernflounder.html
also available for every other species native to SC waters…

The Morris Island Lighthouse www.savethelight.org

DFreedom and MDaddy that is tooo funny. People have really started calling me that now.lmbo…
Thanks guys for the info

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Originally posted by Bonzo72

DNR’s website gives you everything you need to know…great info to be had here…http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/species/southernflounder.html
also available for every other species native to SC waters…

The Morris Island Lighthouse www.savethelight.org


How many flounder have you caught using this information?

Hilton Head - unofficial shark bite capital of the world.

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Originally posted by mdaddy
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Originally posted by gonefishing

So I am from the upstate and try to get down and fish Charleston waters as much as time allows me to. I have caught the hang of Sheephead fishing and definitely Whiting. My next fish I wanna learn how to catch is Floundee and Red Drum. Done research ans even youtube videos. Do any of you guys have any good pointers to help me on my journey on finding and catching Flounder and Red Drum???
Thanks In Advance…

PS. Definitely not asking for your secret spots


Flounders like minnows…Killie Fish are the best but mud minnows will do. Find a creek with some sand near the beach and usually best out going. Float and get ready for some good eating. Good luck Sheephead Fool…soon to be Flounder Fool.


mdaddy, i grew up fishing for flounder (fluke) using what we called killies, but after seeing and using mud minnows down here I always thought it was just a regional name for the same fish, as they look so similar to me. So, there is actually a difference between a killie and mud minnow?

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
DF90 Suzuki

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Originally posted by mdaddy
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Originally posted by gonefishing

So I am from the upstate and try to get down and fish Charleston waters as much as time allows me to. I have caught the hang of Sheephead fishing and definitely Whiting. My next fish I wanna learn how to catch is Floundee and Red Drum. Done research ans even youtube videos. Do any of you guys have any good pointers to help me on my journey on finding and catching Flounder and Red Drum???
Thanks In Advance…

PS. Definitely not asking for your secret spots


Flounders like minnows…Killie Fish are the best but mud minnows will do. Find a creek with some sand near the beach and usually best out going. Float and get ready for some good eating. Good luck Sheephead Fool…soon to be Flounder Fool.


mdaddy, i grew up fishing for flounder (fluke) using what we called killies, but after seeing and using mud minnows down here I always thought it was just a regional name for the same fish, as they look so similar to me. So, there is actually a difference between a killie and mud minnow?

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
DF90 Suzuki


Being the internet fisherman I’m supposed to be…I don’t know. I used to go out to the beach here and catch them in the surf( little fish in the shallows that run around after a wave comes in). They got stripes on them. The ones I catch in a minnow trap in

They are very closely related- different species but same genus.

The striped killifish (Fundulus majalis) lives in sandy, surf zone type stuff. I have early memories of chasing them and try to kick them out of tide pools on Folly as a kid, actually succeeded a couple times. The males have vertical bars and the females have horizontal stripes. They are preferred baits for flounder in inlet areas and up north (Cherry Grove).

The mummichog/mudminnow (Fundulus heteroclitus) lives in muddy, creek type stuff, and is hands down the number one kind of fish used as bait in SC. The males are the colorful ones with females being pale green and silver. It’s what you buy at the bait store.

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They are very closely related- different species but same genus.

The striped killifish (Fundulus majalis) lives in sandy, surf zone type stuff. I have early memories of chasing them and try to kick them out of tide pools on Folly as a kid, actually succeeded a couple times. The males have vertical bars and the females have horizontal stripes. They are preferred baits for flounder in inlet areas and up north (Cherry Grove).

The mummichog/mudminnow (Fundulus heteroclitus) lives in muddy, creek type stuff, and is hands down the number one kind of fish used as bait in SC. The males are the colorful ones with females being pale green and silver. It’s what you buy at the bait store.


Thanks for answering. I was too lazy to search for the thread on the iron triggering the brownish lines in the gulf stream. to find the author. In my 30+ years of internet fishing…seen a lot and wondered what it was. This web site is a model for all fishing websites. I have learned soooooo many things:

Horse shoe crab blood harvesting for bacteria recognition

Grouper Rig from Sells

Chris V…ANYTHING ABOUT OUTBOARD MOTORS

Wolfie and fiberglass

White Bread

Bonzos generator

Pee Pod and Patagonia

Cracker Larrys Wisdom

and now you.

Thanks.

Like the license plate say:

“We Won’t Leave You Fishing For Information”…

Thanks for the info. It’s been a loooong time, but thinking back now, I do seem to remember the killies we used did have “stripes” on them.

'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
DF90 Suzuki

The best thing I can recommend is time on the water. Now, with that said, I am going to give you some pointers I have learned over the years. My favorite tide to fish is falling into low, then the first couple hours of incoming. Once high tide comes in, I still pick up a few fish it just seems a lot more difficult. Mostly due to the fact the reds are pushing up in the grass looking for food. Trout can be consistently caught as long as there is water moving. Here is my typical game plan:

Reds: Fish structure(docks, oysters, trees etc) with jig heads and assorted soft plastics. I mostly use Zman products and have great success. Fishing grass points and around oysters with deeper edges you can float a popping cork with mud minnows, mullet or shrimp. Even an artificial shrimp (Vudu, DOA etc)

Trout: Look for water in the 6-8’ range. A jig head with a trout trick, paddle tail or curly tail grub with bright colors usually results in a good bite. I look for grass points/oyster bars where there is a strong current break and will throw in the edge of the current. Let it hit the bottom and lightly give two twitches up and let the lure fall back to the bottom. The trout will usually hit on the fall. Trolling is also a good way to locate trout. You can set up a couple of rods with different color lures and troll two behind your boat/kayak. Once you hook up, there will usually be more in that area.

Flounder: Same setup used for reds and trout will work. Throw up into feeder creek openings, sloooooowly bump across the bottom and wait for the inevitable “tap tap” then wait 3 seconds and slowly reel. If you feel resistance, set the hook. If not, continue working the lure. Also cast mud flats/banks and repeat the same retrieve.

Hopefully this gets you going in the right direction but just remember, the more time you put into learning and practicing , the more fish you will catch.

Capt. Jeremiah
Southern Slam Fishing Charters

Pioneer 197 Sportfish

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That is some good advice right there.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”, but really, who cares?

Capt. Jeremiah

Thanks for the simple explanation. I’ve racked my brains trying to consistently catch fish but don’t really improve my catch rate. I really think it’s time on the water like you say and having a plan based on the tide etc.

Unfortunately, I am lucky if I can get out once a month due to the other obligations like the pesky job.

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Originally posted by PeaPod
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Originally posted by Bonzo72

DNR’s website gives you everything you need to know…great info to be had here…http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/species/southernflounder.html
also available for every other species native to SC waters…

The Morris Island Lighthouse www.savethelight.org


How many flounder have you caught using this information?


I only read the sheepshead portion :stuck_out_tongue:

The Morris Island Lighthouse www.savethelight.org

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Capt. Jeremiah

Thanks for the simple explanation. I’ve racked my brains trying to consistently catch fish but don’t really improve my catch rate. I really think it’s time on the water like you say and having a plan based on the tide etc.

Unfortunately, I am lucky if I can get out once a month due to the other obligations like the pesky job.


It definitely takes time on the water to consistently produce fish. And only being able to get out once a month is going to make things a little tougher, but if you follow the basics and scout spots, you’ll get into them eventually.

Capt. Jeremiah
Southern Slam Fishing Charters

Pioneer 197 Sportfish