Good rule change. Now something about the giggers taking more than they are supposed to (allegedly) under cover of darkness and we’ll have a healthy flounder population.
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Originally posted by stratoyakGood rule change. Now something about the giggers taking more than they are supposed to (allegedly) under cover of darkness and we’ll have a healthy flounder population.
It’s bull**** posts like this that stir the pot. Unless you have proof don’t post crap like this on this site. If you do have proof then call the game wardens and turn them in. How about get rid of shrimp trawlers if you want to help the flounder population.
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PROUD YANKEE
Oyster Baron
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
Agreed Sells. I gig flounder all the time, but I never take more than a limit. And, that is the reason for this post, which is making sure I know what the current law is. I imagine there are some or someone out there taking more than the limit, but for the most part, you are wrong Stratoyak.
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Originally posted by sellsfishquote:s
Originally posted by stratoyakGood rule change. Now something about the giggers taking more than they are supposed to (allegedly) under cover of darkness and we’ll have a healthy flounder population.
It’s bull**** posts like this that stir the pot. Unless you have proof don’t post crap like this on this site. If you don’t have proof then call the game wardens and turn them in. How about get rid of shrimp trawlers if you want to help the flounder population.
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PROUD YANKEEOyster Baron
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
2012 Skeeter ZX22 Bay
Yamaha 250 hp SHO
Minnkota Riptide 101
Why do people think DNR s sole reason for being out there is to make people miserable? They are there to protect our resources so that people willbe able to fish and harvest seafood…and I for one have never met a DNR officer that wasn’t kind and courteous.
I am all for the new limit and think its a long time coming…sorry…just my thoughts on it…and you are still going to have people out there night after night hammering them despite the new rules.
I also get sick of hearing people bad mouth the shrimp trawlers, as they shovel fresh “trawler caught” LOCAL shrimp in their mouths with both hands every opportunity they get. For those of you who dont like our trawlers …go ahead and eat imported shrimp all you want…I"ll eat the local stuff. I’d love to hear someone actually go into a seafood market where local lay beside imported or pond raised and have them say…oh please give me some of those imported shrimp…
Maybe I’m a little biased because I was raised in a “trawler town”. I’m sorry if I anger anyone with my opinion…but it’s how I feel. Pretty soon there will be no local shrimp,oysters or crabs because of the people who don’t care where they get it from as long as they can get it…and our commercial fisherman will non longer have jobs or be a way of the south as we know it. When this is gone who will they attack next?
miss’n fish’n
212 SEAHUNT CC
Sea Squirt 16
Amen Penny. I grew up in “trawler town” also. Thunderbolt GA. We lived and paid the bills catching local seafood. I’ve never had a encounter with DNR in 50 years that was unprofessional, or thought they acted out of line. Never. Not in SC, not in GA, not in FL. They have a tough job and they do it pretty well.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
Not many flounder caught on a shrimp trawler these days.
Keep living on fantasy island.
If this year is any indication then trolling for shrimp in South Carolina is coming to an end soon.
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PROUD YANKEE
Oyster Baron
NMFS = No More Fishing Season
“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”
sellsfish seem sto be very touchy about this subject, and leave the shrimpers alone yankee. Ever time I have been out gigging of late someone is being written a ticket by DNR for undersize, oversized reds and so on.
Local Boy, Just having fun.
Penfishn,
I partially agree with you, and I have beat up on DNR here a little bit; however, the Game Wardens, Mr. Green Jeans, is NOT the DNR people I’m talking about here primarily. There are plenty of people in DNR that are not Game Wardens. Instead, they are the administrators of the processes and systems that cannot supply us with up-to-date information in 2014 in the “information age” of our time.
Again, the effective date and change of the law should be reflected in the regulations before the date of change. Just announcing it in the newspaper is, again, lame. DNR can take the time to update a simple PDF file on a website before the law goes into effect, and there is no excuse for that kind of laziness on DNR’s part–at least not to me. Because, if those nice curteouse Game Wardens are going to write a ticket, the knuckleheads behind the scenes updating reulations and administrative processes better have done their job, or the DNR will fail at their job in court. The PDF file for Saltwater regs on the SCDNR website still says 20 per person.
Here is the link:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/regs/fishing.html
Because the law is effective 1 July 2014, then the website should reflect accurate information before the date of any law change. If people have to search and research the rules and regs, then, DNR has NOT done their job effectively or efficiently–sad, but true. After four phones calls, two to Columbia and two to Charleston, I finally got the right answer here on this site from WIGGS. Again, sad but true. So, I’ll restate: DNR, they suck again, and until they update the rules and regs, they will continue to SUCK as a whole organization. Although you may not, I find DNR’s lack of professionalism unsatisfactory in this matter. It is not supposed to be hard to find out what the rules and regs are at any moment.
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Originally posted by penfishnWhy do pe
I have seen some despicable actions by DNR officers that could be described as entrapment. Once - with a bag of empty beer cans - trash I picked up in the FM , an officer threatened to “take me to jail” for open containers.
skeeter…I totally agree with you that its near impossible to keep up with the many changes in regulations these days…and sometimes even the regulation books themselves aren’t clear
I wasn’t arguing about that with you at all…just got my dander up about shrimping I guess…
and sells…I hope what you say does not come true…sad to me…and esp sad for seafood markets like yours who will no longer carry fresh LOCAL shrimp for their customers. sad…
miss’n fish’n
212 SEAHUNT CC
Sea Squirt 16
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Originally posted by natureboyI have seen some despicable actions by DNR officers that could be described as entrapment. Once - with a bag of empty beer cans - trash I picked up in the FM , an officer threatened to “take me to jail” for open containers.
So he took you in after you explained? No?
A lot of beaching going on here these days.
DNR does a great job. Break the law and they will write you. I have never had a problem explaining to them. They have been respectfull but they are there to do a job.
Peace out.
big dog
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I hope what you say does not come true..sad to me..and esp sad for seafood markets like yours who will no longer carry fresh LOCAL shrimp for their customers. :( sad....
It’s already true, and sad to me. That industry and way of life is almost dead. I grew up in Thunderbolt, GA and when I was a kid there were at least 200 shrimp boats fishing out of there. Almost the entire bluff, with the exception of a couple of small marinas, was nothing but shrimp boats and seafood processing houses. At least 5 processing houses. Shrimp, crabs, terrapin, oysters… In between the shrimp boats were oyster boats, crab boats mullet boats and turtle boats. The entire town survived on catching seafood.
Now the river bluff is nothing but condominiums wall to wall, and you can’t even see the river when riding down the street
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
same here…where the crab house( processed crabs) was on the point of Jeremy creek is now million dollar houses…and whle there are still trawlers in the village…not like before.
miss’n fish’n
212 SEAHUNT CC
Sea Squirt 16
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Originally posted by Wando Grillquote:
Originally posted by natureboyI have seen some despicable actions by DNR officers that could be described as entrapment. Once - with a bag of empty beer cans - trash I picked up in the FM , an officer threatened to “take me to jail” for open containers.
So he took you in after you explained? No?
A lot of beaching going on here these days.
DNR does a great job. Break the law and they will write you. I have never had a problem explaining to them. They have been respectfull but they are there to do a job.
Peace out.
big dog
NO - he did not take me to jail or write me - but harassed me yelling and arguing and getting in my face. The confrontation only stopped when I asserted my right to remain silent - and then he walked away after 30 minutes.
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Once - with a bag of empty beer cans - trash I picked up in the FM , an officer threatened to "take me to jail" for open containers.
If I’m not mistaken, the FM is a Federal park and patrolled by Fed game wardens, USFW, not state DNR. Just like in the Savannah Wildlife refuge Those folks are tough and alcohol is completely prohibited. We were hog hunting in there early one very cold morning, 3 of us in the boat. Somebody had a pint of brandy and we poured it into hot coffee from the thermos. Naturally, about that time the USFW man pulled up alongside and he couldn’t help smelling the brandy in the hot coffee and said so. No point in denying it. All I could think to do was offer him some That didn’t go over well either. But he was decent about it. Told us we had 2 choices, go to jail or take it back and put it in the truck and never bring alcohol onto 'his" refuge again. We said yes sir, thank you. Wasn’t but a half pint left, so we ran downriver a couple miles, finished it off and sunk the bottle.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
Either he’s a gw or his buddy is. Out of the 20 odd green jeans I’ve had the unfortunate privilege of meeting there have only been two that werent complete aholes. Britt and Newell. Other than that they have the storm trooper syndrome. Where they think there mr billy bad ass. If I wanted to be harrased while fishing I’d take my wife.
quote:Most of the FM is a National Forest (National Park Service) and all of it is a WMA. It is illegal to have alcohol in either and I didn't.. I was deer hunting and picked up some ones old empties from an area that I enjoy and hated to see littered. This guy caught up with me at my truck and saw me place the empties in the bed. He stripped everything out of my vehicle "searching" for what ever. - a real ass.
Originally posted by Cracker Larryquote:
Once - with a bag of empty beer cans - trash I picked up in the FM , an officer threatened to "take me to jail" for open containers.
If I’m not mistaken, the FM is a Federal park and patrolled by Fed game wardens, USFW, not state DNR. Just like in the Savannah Wildlife refuge Those folks are tough and alcohol is completely prohibited. We were hog hunting in there early one very cold morning, 3 of us in the boat. Somebody had a pint of brandy and we poured it into hot coffee from the thermos. Naturally, about that time the USFW man pulled up alongside and he couldn’t help smelling the brandy in the hot coffee and said so. No point in denying it. All I could think to do was offer him some
That didn’t go over well either. But he was decent about it. Told us we had 2 choices, go to jail or take it back and put it in the truck and never bring alcohol onto 'his" refuge again. We said yes sir, thank you. Wasn’t but a half pint left, so we ran downriver a couple miles, finished it off and sunk the bottle.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
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Originally posted by tree_my_dogIf I wanted to be harrased while fishing I’d take my wife.
I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there!