Yes I have. We call them overcups, or chestnut acorns. Don’t know what they are really called, but deer and hogs love them!
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Why yes, every season, just different trees.Some years they’re dumping, others not. Swamp Chestnut Oak is what these are, but many other white oak species drop some really big ones too.
Yes. Swamp Chestnut Acorns.
Overcups are different acorns: The hull goes almost completely around the acorn…
Quercus michauxii or Quescus alba. Both are white oaks and produce large acorns preferred by most critters and by the native Americans. White oaks are not as bitter as red or live oak acorns. Find you a few large specimens together in a secluded area and hunt when they are dropping. A little fertilizer helps increase production.
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Is it true that white oaks don’t produce acorns every year? I was told they only drop every couple of years. When the ones on our farm do drop, there are a crazy abundance of them.
Shot some wood ducks one day in the pond that were loaded with white oak acorns. Don’t really know how they even swallowed them. Neck looked like he’d swallowed an egg.
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True for both red and white species. Live Oaks are every other year or so, and I’m still uncertain what a Live Oak is classified as,white or red? Researching comes up with both, foresters I’ve known for a while claim it could be a hybrid of both red and white.
I believe part of the heavy drop this year,from both species, is a result of the damage the trees observed from the ice storm 3 years ago.
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Originally posted by poly ballTrue for both red and white species. Live Oaks are every other year or so, and I’m still uncertain what a Live Oak is classified as,white or red? Researching comes up with both, foresters I’ve known for a while claim it could be a hybrid of both red and white.
I believe part of the heavy drop this year,from both species, is a result of the damage the trees observed from the ice storm 3 years ago.
All past b.s down and aside polly… Never heard anyone refer to a live oak as a hybrid? As far as I know it is an evergreen oak and completely on it’s own. It also produces every year, no exception other than sometimes more than others. Used to have them in Europe, but I think they all got logged out for ship building. I know quite a few foresters myself and in my experience with them, most know very little on hardwood species, (not knocking just stating my experience) other than how to market them.
Growing up and hearing old timers a heavy “nut” crop meant a cold winter. Having lived through a few winters, I don’t think that so much as random issues… Warmth, water, etc… I’m sure trees getting stressed has a big factor in thick or thin crops.
I did not post this to stir crap, just typing out my thoughts.
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I’ve always classified live oaks in the white oak family. White oaks, especially live oak, is a great wood for ship building. Many thousands of ships were built with live oak frames.
Red oaks suck for boat building. It’s about useless. Better burned in the fireplace. Deer don’t like them much either.
I’ve got a few thousand oaks of almost every variety on our property and they are all having a very good year. They’ve been spitting acorns for a month. Squirrels and deer are having a very good year too. Some years are better than others. Just like our fruit trees, they didn’t do much of anything this year. Last year was a bumper crop of fruit. This year it’s a bumper crop of acorns.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
My pecan trees are touching the ground with so many nuts but due to the drought they are small! Crows and squrreles are fat and sasy.
A live oak is in the white oak family, not red oak.
White oaks can produce an acorn in one growing season vs two growing seasons for red oaks.
Acorn production can vary significantly across regions and from season to season.
For instance, I have noticed that coastal swamp chestnut are much more prolific producers year to year than inland swamp chestnuts.
Red oaks are typically more dependable producers annually, but you never know and hybridization is very common among Quercus.
However, live oak is not a hybrid!
quote:Red, white, blue, whatever the color, it is one hell of a drop at my place this year. Thought Live Oak was about done, saw many more trees yesterday that haven't even thought about falling. Water oaks have really started raining down as of the last few days, and all the white oaks look as if they still have several weeks to go.
Originally posted by CalibogueA live oak is in the white oak family, not red oak.
White oaks can produce an acorn in one growing season vs two growing seasons for red oaks.
Acorn production can vary significantly across regions and from season to season.
For instance, I have noticed that coastal swamp chestnut are much more prolific producers year to year than inland swamp chestnuts.
Red oaks are typically more dependable producers annually, but you never know and hybridization is very common among Quercus.
However, live oak is not a hybrid!
A little scouting, and you can easily pattern the deer right now.
Which oak is it that drops the little tiny acorns with the sharp end? That thing dumped in my yard during the hurricane and you can barely walk out there w/out shoes on now.
That’s probably a turkey oak.
If you look at the lobes on the leaves, white oaks are rounded and red oaks are pointed. So I’ve always been told anyway.
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I do know a water oak has rounded lobes on the leaf ends, and it surely is a red oak.
Looks a lot like what we called white oak down in bertie county…My granddad would roast them like we did p-nuts and grind them up as a way to stretch his coffee , similar to the cajun chickory coffee ; took a reeeeeel man to ask for a 2nd cup:dizzy_face:
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I do know a water oak has rounded lobes on the leaf ends, and it surely is a red oak.
Sorry, but I think you are wrong on this.
White oak leaves, from wikipedia…
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Leaves: Alternate, five to nine inches long, three to four inches wide. Obovate or oblong, seven to nine-lobed, usually seven-lobed with rounded lobes and rounded sinuses; lobes destitute of bristles; sinuses sometimes deep, sometimes shallow. On young trees the leaves are often repand.
From Wikihow…http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Oak-Leaves
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Look at the tips of the lobes to determine if you have a red or white oak. Lobes are the bits of leaf that extend out to each side from the center of the leave, like points on a star. White oaks have rounded lobes while red oaks have pointed ones. This is an important distinction that will cut the number of potential trees you're trying to identify in half.
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Quercus nigra, the water oak, is an oak in the red oak group, native to the eastern and south-central United States, found in all the coastal states from New Jersey to Texas, and inland as far as Oklahoma, Kentucky, and southern Missouri. Wikipedia
It’s obvious a water oak is a red oak, I’ll take a picture of a leaf today,we’ll see how rounded the leaf is.
Larry I’m sure you could identify a water oak?
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Larry I'm sure you could identify a water oak?
Yes, I can. Looks like this.
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This water oak has some awfully rounded lobes.