Help please: Yamaha 115

Problem:
Engine isn’t running right at low RPMs.
It idles perfectly fine. At high speeds it runs like a top.
For example, running under plane through no-wake zones is difficult. It bogs down.
I can feather it and pump the bulb to get it to speed and it runs like a dream.

What I’ve done:

  1. Replaced fuel filter. It was dirty, but new one didn’t fix issue.
  2. Replaced fuel-water separator: Fuel from inside filter was clean with minimal particles.
  3. Replaced spark plugs: They were black, so seems to be running rich. Problem still exists after running with new plugs.

Help is greatly appreciated.
2006 F115TXR

black plugs typically equals rich conditions; white plugs typically mean lean/running hot.

are you getting your normal WOT RPMs?


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also curious, have you checked your oil level? does it seem high?


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quote:
Originally posted by TheMechanic

black plugs typically equals rich conditions; white plugs typically mean lean/running hot.

are you getting your normal WOT RPMs?


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Oops, I meant rich. Just corrected the original post.

Yes, normal WOT RPMs.

The oil level seems a tad high.

my first guess would be, your thermostat is getting stuck open. basically not allowing your motor to warm up, causing the motor to run rich and flood the cylinders with fuel, allowing extra fuel to seep into the crankcase. without being at the motor, its a little difficult to pinpoint the issue, but thats a good place to start and relatively common issue.


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Checked my thermostat…
It was stuck wide open with a good bit of salt buildup around it.

  • Cleaned everything out really well.
  • Bought and installed a new thermostat.
    Will test on the water later this week and see if this solves the problem. Was a necessary repair regardless, so I’m glad I checked.
    Thanks so much, Mechanic, for your advice.

Lastly, it really makes me rethink Yamaha’s hose hookup for flushing saltwater after I get home. I flush it religiously, but the freshwater is obviously not reaching the thermostat. I may just go back to the oldschool approach and use my muffs every time.

good deal, hopefully that’s all it was.

also make sure you check the gap on all the new plugs you installed.


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and change your oil because that oil is now saturated with gas.


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The spark plugs I bought were factory gapped to Yamaha recommendations, but I did not double check. I should do that.
Oil change coming up next.
Thanks, again! I owe you a beer at the very least. Remind me sometime.

yeah i always check the gap on the plugs, even the so called “pre-gapped” plugs.

and ill hold you to that cold one :wink:


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Buddy of mine had a yamaha f250… bad thermostat added what seemed to be an extra 1.5qt of gas in the oil,mainly from slow trolling in the winter…oil got so thin lost oil pressure and spun a bearing. motor was shot

jsadler, ill take that motor if he still has it :wink:


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Moral
Yamaha puts the flush adapter on the motor for situations that prevent you from running the motor, such as a boat that stays in the water.
it is strongly recommended that you use a flush adapter on the lower unit and run the engine for 5 minutes with fresh water.

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IF I RESPOND IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT ON PURPOSE, AND I AM NOT YELLING

quote:
Originally posted by chris V

Moral
Yamaha puts the flush adapter on the motor for situations that prevent you from running the motor, such as a boat that stays in the water.
it is strongly recommended that you use a flush adapter on the lower unit and run the engine for 5 minutes with fresh water.

www.teamcharlestonmarine.com
www.bombislandboats.com
IF I RESPOND IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT ON PURPOSE, AND I AM NOT YELLING


That’s if that fine invention of a poppet valve is working…

quote:
Originally posted by chris V

Moral
Yamaha puts the flush adapter on the motor for situations that prevent you from running the motor, such as a boat that stays in the water.
it is strongly recommended that you use a flush adapter on the lower unit and run the engine for 5 minutes with fresh water.

www.teamcharlestonmarine.com
www.bombislandboats.com
IF I RESPOND IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT ON PURPOSE, AND I AM NOT YELLING


Thank you for the invaluable advice, Chris. It’s now my new routine. Live and learn.

quote:
Originally posted by mdaddy
quote:
Originally posted by chris V

Moral
Yamaha puts the flush adapter on the motor for situations that prevent you from running the motor, such as a boat that stays in the water.
it is strongly recommended that you use a flush adapter on the lower unit and run the engine for 5 minutes with fresh water.

www.teamcharlestonmarine.com
www.bombislandboats.com
IF I RESPOND IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT ON PURPOSE, AND I AM NOT YELLING


That’s if that fine invention of a poppet valve is working…


I DONT UNDERSTAND???

www.teamcharlestonmarine.com
www.bombislandboats.com
IF I RESPOND IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT ON PURPOSE, AND I AM NOT YELLING

quote:
Originally posted by chris V
quote:
Originally posted by mdaddy
quote:
Originally posted by chris V

Moral
Yamaha puts the flush adapter on the motor for situations that prevent you from running the motor, such as a boat that stays in the water.
it is strongly recommended that you use a flush adapter on the lower unit and run the engine for 5 minutes with fresh water.

www.teamcharlestonmarine.com
www.bombislandboats.com
IF I RESPOND IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT ON PURPOSE, AND I AM NOT YELLING


That’s if that fine invention of a poppet valve is working…


I DONT UNDERSTAND???

www.teamcharlestonmarine.com
www.bombislandboats.com
IF I RESPOND IN ALL CAPS, ITS NOT ON PURPOSE, AND I AM NOT YELLING


The poppet valve, if malfunctioning, will not allow the water pressure to build up on the muffs. I pulled the foot off twice to replace the impeller and checked it again because of overheating on the muffs(150 4S). Read about poppet valves…great design but just something else to fail. The 4 stroke is easy to get to…not so much on older motors:

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/477518-yamaha-hpdi-poppet-valve-replacement-updated-pics.html#b

Too bad the engineers aren’t required to fix there designs.

MD, My Yamaha 150 4S doesn’t like the muffs either. Piss’s well but will overheat. Purchased new in 2015.

Guess I should call Yamaha while under warranty to see what they have to say…

Thanks,
NN

I thought to run on muffs you needed to cover the other intakes or it just runs out and gets too hot, I’ll check for that motor