I’ve been waiting and waiting to attempt to head out offshore. Will be my first attempt. Seeing how I broke the bank buying a boat, i don’t want to waste the money on gas until I recover some. So I am hoping I can get some sound advice to shorten the learning curve.
From my understanding, wave height and duration isn’t as important as wind. As a 2ft/8s could be a PITA with opposite wind direction. So if the wind on those wave parameters is coming completely perpendicular to the waves, or anywhere in the 180 degree radius, of the direction of wave, would make for nice (er) conditions?
Do I have that right?
Based on today forecast of the charleston buoy, from SF, if it doesn’t deviate much, I’m looking to head out sunday out of Remleys. Can anyone see a reason of concern not to?
I probably sound stupid. I am just a little nervous and I’m trying to be safe about all this.
Any takers on a buddy boat if I can put this together to actually go?
Sunday looks like a decent day right now. Not trying to sound like a smartass, but have you been offshore with anyone before? Just asking because having an experienced person either with you on your boat or experience on someone else’s boat would be helpful in knowing what to expect.
Boating is expensive, hopefully a gas tank here or there won’t break you because gas is small potatoes when something big decides it needs fixing.
NE is the worst wind direction around here generally speaking.
i wouldn’t get too worked up about swell vs wind direction and what affect that has on the waves. But if you’re interested: waves in line with swell continue building a formed swell. wind not in line with swell, but also not opposed, tends to form a wind chop/cross swell. wind not in line with swell, and also opposed, also tends to form a wind chop/cross swell. wind that is the exact opposite direction of swell tends to deaden the swell, but it doesn’t happen that way too often.
Wind against the current can produce some nasty waves hence NE being a bad wind direction (predominant current direction offshore here comes from the SW). Wind with current is generally more pleasant. The jetties will demonstrate this for you as well at different wind/tide conditions.
Take an experienced person with you, buddy boat if possible, and have all of the appropriate safety gear and you should do fine.
You should take someone with experience on your first trip, that will shorten the learning curve tremendously. It’s hard to learn anything truly by just researching on the internet. You don’t sound stupid. The guy that doesn’t ask these questions in advance is the stupid one.
If the forecast looks good, be ready to go. Never be afraid to turn back. There’s nothing less fun than getting beat up trying to experience a leisure activity.
What boat are you fishing?
If everything looks good go for it. If it is too rough you can turn around or alter course for a better ride. I would suggest getting away from the shipping channel ASAP and give it about 10 miles before turning around unless you are completely uncomfortable. A lot if times the seas get much better when you reach that 10 mile point.
Charlie
www.tidedownsportfishing.com
(843)312-2981
quote:I have been offshore but that was many moons ago. The only thing I retained from those days was how good the fishing was. Which is going to do diddly squat for getting myself out there. It's not so much the tank of gas. Long story short, I would just like to be more conservative with funds until I can replenish the nest egg some. I don't want to make a bad choice with picking a day and
Originally posted by millacdSunday looks like a decent day right now. Not trying to sound like a smartass, but have you been offshore with anyone before? Just asking because having an experienced person either with you on your boat or experience on someone else’s boat would be helpful in knowing what to expect.
Boating is expensive, hopefully a gas tank here or there won’t break you because gas is small potatoes when something big decides it needs fixing.
NE is the worst wind direction around here generally speaking.
i wouldn’t get too worked up about swell vs wind direction and what affect that has on the waves. But if you’re interested: waves in line with swell continue building a formed swell. wind not in line with swell, but also not opposed, tends to form a wind chop/cross swell. wind not in line with swell, and also opposed, also tends to form a wind chop/cross swell. wind that is the exact opposite direction of swell tends to deaden the swell, but it doesn’t happen that way too often.
Wind against the current can produce some nasty waves hence NE being a bad wind direction (predominant current direction offshore here comes from the SW). Wind with current is generally more pleasant. The jetties will demonstrate this for you as well at different wind/tide conditions.
Take an experienced person with you, buddy boat if possible, and have all of the appropriate safety gear and you should do fine.
quote:I don't think I would ever be to proud not to turn around. I have a small phobia of the ocean. As a matter of fact, funny story. I went out on a John boat once. Sat on the floor because I was to close to the water. Lol
Originally posted by 23SailfishYou should take someone with experience on your first trip, that will shorten the learning curve tremendously. It’s hard to learn anything truly by just researching on the internet. You don’t sound stupid. The guy that doesn’t ask these questions in advance is the stupid one.
If the forecast looks good, be ready to go. Never be afraid to turn back. There’s nothing less fun than getting beat up trying to experience a leisure activity.
What boat are you fishing?
'00 Pursuit 2470 CC
'05 Yamaha F250 - 660hrs
quote:Good info. Maybe I should find that section on water and turn right back just for the experience.
Originally posted by chuck141wIf everything looks good go for it. If it is too rough you can turn around or alter course for a better ride. I would suggest getting away from the shipping channel ASAP and give it about 10 miles before turning around unless you are completely uncomfortable. A lot if times the seas get much better when you reach that 10 mile point.
Charlie
www.tidedownsportfishing.com
(843)312-2981
Oh yeah. Any of you guys want to volunteer to go on a free boat ride ? XD
I got a good laugh out of this one:
“I have been offshore but that was many moons ago. The only thing I retained from those days was how good the fishing was.”
Don’t we all. We forget what 3-6 foot seas out of nowhere with a ship off shore of you so the waves double up, are like…or the motor shutting off… for no reason!
You asked a great question and based it on not wanting to waste money. That deserves an answer. Even if I had the money to burn…I wouldn’t for an a$$ beating on the water.
The weather sources are numerous and don’t lose their jobs when they are wrong. Learn to read a weather map and use the buoy data to determine which way a high/low pressure system is moving…the edges are usually the worst. Follow the maps and data and gauge your own predictions…usually better than the pros. They won’t be with you!!!
I use NOAA and these sites:
https://www.windfinder.com/weather-maps/forecast/usa#7/32.501/-79.099
http://marine.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-80.01555&lat=31.50768#.WS9h9DaFOaE
http://www.sstcharts.com/sea_conditions_forecasts.shtml
The less wind the better unless you’re sailing.
I try to never look at someone asking for help as stupid. We all learn from someone else or by trial and error. Good luck.
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Originally posted by Ari-anglerOh yeah. Any of you guys want to volunteer to go on a free boat ride ? XD
Ha, i would in a heartbeat if i wasnt already committed to other plans on sunday. And i wouldnt let you make it a free ride for me either!
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Originally posted by mdaddyI got a good laugh out of this one:
“I have been offshore but that was many moons ago. The only thing I retained from those days was how good the fishing was.”
You asked a great question and based it on not wanting to waste money. That deserves an answer. Even if I had the money to burn…I wouldn’t for an a$$ beating on the water.
The weather sources are numerous and don’t lose their jobs when they are wrong. Learn to read a weather map and use the buoy data to determine which way a high/low pressure system is moving…the edges are usually the worst.
I should clarify. I wasn’t my boat back then nor me getting us there. My job was to annoy everyone with, " Are we there yet?"
Would you have a recommended source to educate myself on this? I am about to see what I can come up with as far as a good read on the corrilation with the H/L system and where I should be in them. But any finger pointing in a direction would not be forgotten.
Explore all the data you can find and you’ll learn to find what works for you. Off shore weather plays a big part of swell formation and what goes into forecast models.
As an example:
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/marine/zone/off/offnt2mz.htm
Click on some of them and compare to the next couple of days.
Clear as mud? Highs spin clockwise…lows counterclockwise:
https://weather.com/maps/currentusweather
Current (way) offshore condition forecast:
http://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/data/forecasts/marine/offshore/an/anz835.txt
CAPE FEAR TO 31N TO 1000 FM-
432 PM EDT WED MAY 31 2017
.TONIGHT…S TO SW WINDS 5 TO 15 KT…BECOMING SW 10 TO 20 KT.
SEAS 3 TO 5 FT. NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND SCATTERED TSTMS.
.THU…W TO SW WINDS 10 TO 20 KT…BECOMING SW 5 TO 15 KT. SEAS
3 TO 5 FT. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND TSTMS.
.THU NIGHT…SW WINDS 5 TO 15 KT…BECOMING W. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT.
.FRI…W WINDS LESS THAN 10 KT…BECOMING S TO SW. SEAS 2 TO
4 FT.
.FRI NIGHT…SW WINDS 5 TO 15 KT…BECOMING W. SEAS 2 TO 4 FT.
.SAT…VARIABLE WINDS LESS THAN 10 KT…BECOMING SW. SEAS 2 TO
4 FT.
.SAT NIGHT…SW WINDS 5 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 4 FT.
.SUN…SW WINDS 5 TO 15 KT…BECOMING S 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 3 TO
5 FT.
Compare that to forecast map with H/L and see how the wind changes. Then make your own forecast and compare it to actual conditions…
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Originally posted by mdaddyI rest my case:
http://old.charlestonfishing.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=171274
No sir. No thank you. Ut-ah. Nope.
Glad everyone is ok though. It’s inspirational to see the knowledge being applied to keep everyone safe as far as operation in those conditions.
I have a lot to learn. I have found some decent reads on what H/L pressure systems bring, warm/cold fronts, ridges, troughs, etc.
Also found some info about different types of clouds and what they may bring (good or bad).
Going to dive in, head first to wrap my head around all this information and understand it.
Thank you for the directions. I know your time is valuable and I appreciate you sharing some with me to help.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f13/reading-weather-charts-7607.html
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/clouds/cloudwise/types.html
Just dropping these here for reference. I found them relevant.
How far are you looking to go and where are you putting in at?
BG
I want to get into offshore fishing but I don’t want to spend a lot of money…
Take up golf and buy the fish at the market. Mahi for $12/lb is way cheaper than what you’ll have in catching them.
“There’s a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning” -J. Buffett
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Originally posted by btodagHow far are you looking to go and where are you putting in at?
BG
It will probably be Remley’s and how far out is TBD. 15-20 for starters. Will have to judge based on fuel consumption.
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Originally posted by BlondeStrangerI want to get into offshore fishing but I don’t want to spend a lot of money…
Take up golf and buy the fish at the market. Mahi for $12/lb is way cheaper than what you’ll have in catching them.
“There’s a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning” -J. Buffett
By any chance did you read the entire OP or did you just comment off the first line?