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Originally posted by Fishb8If gallman lowered his head into the defender, who is making forcible contact with whom.
I don’t know, probably the guy slamming the crown of his helmet into the side of the other.
quote:No, you read the whole thing...here it is:
Originally posted by Fishb8quote:
Originally posted by Edistodaniel“No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet.”
Nothing else matters. It was targeting. The refs got it wrong. The IR booth got it wrong. You are wrong. It’s not as complicated as you’re trying to make it.
Was it intentional? Probably not. Hard to take Gallman down, but that was a dangerous hit.
Read the whole thing.
“No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting”There is more to the rule than just hitting with the crown. AT LEAST ONE INDICATOR. You are wrong.
I am not making it complicated, I am reading the rule… ALL OF IT.
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(Rule 9-1-3) Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting. (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 9-6) (A.R. 9-1-3-I)
And this is Note 1:
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When defender dives at the RBs waist. Then the RB ducks into the defenders helmet. Is that targeting. NO.
In this case gallman ducted into the hit
Ok make up your mind about what part you’re wrong about. Because now you’re just changing your position to something totally different, but still wrong. You also lack an understanding of basic anatomy if you think your head and waist can occupy the same space at the same time.
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Originally posted by EdistodanielOk make up your mind about what part you’re wrong about. Because now you’re just changing your position to something totally different, but still wrong. You also lack an understanding of basic anatomy if you think your head and waist can occupy the same space at the same time.
Not true. Hillary supporters have their head up their ass.[:I]
ED, I don’t understand what you mean. Defender was going down for a tackle. The RB leans down into the defenders helmet.
Tackler was going for waist. RB dove forward. The position of the runners waist would been been behind him, because he blindsided the RB directly from the side. Either way, it’s a moot point and you’re wrong. You literally cannot argue that the tackler didn’t violate the rule and still consider yourself credible. Ignorant of the rule is one thing.
1st. The post about the waist was just a situation to prove a point.
I’m not wrong.
FB8, should it have been a personal foul in your opinion?
First, Most, Biggest
No. It was a vicious hit, but just football
quote:"Even on the bad calls". That folks is some professional bait being put into the spread.
Originally posted by shevyquote:
Originally posted by Fishb8what did the IR say. NOT TARGETING
That said, we also got away with a big time facemask that would have extended NC States 2nd to last drive. they had to punt. That made it even on the bad calls.
Boulware doesn’t like being blocked.
I’m guessing that ref didn’t have a clear view of the play happening 8ft in front of him.
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Originally posted by Fishb8When defender dives at the RBs waist. Then the RB ducks into the defenders helmet. Is that targeting. NO.
In this case gallman ducted into the hit
Did he or did he not dive at gallman’s waist with the crown of his helmet? Very simple question.
Should have been a penalty Fritz
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Originally posted by Fishb8No. It was a vicious hit, but just football
What do you think the purpose of the targeting foul is?
First, Most, Biggest
No. He dove with his shoulder like so many other piss poor tacklers these days. Had gallman not ducked, his SHOULDER would have got him.
well I guess thats the real root of the discussion. I looked to me like he lead with the top of his head. He didn’t put an arm up and his body was parallel to the ground.
if gallman didn’t put his head down that dude still would have speared him in the ribs with the top of his helmet.
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Originally posted by CaptFritzquote:"Even on the bad calls". That folks is some professional bait being put into the spread.
Originally posted by shevyquote:
Originally posted by Fishb8what did the IR say. NOT TARGETING
That said, we also got away with a big time facemask that would have extended NC States 2nd to last drive. they had to punt. That made it even on the bad calls.
Boulware doesn’t like being blocked.
bet he was tired of getting held all day.
3 quarters of football with zero penalties is an incredible display of discipline.
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Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.
That’s what the elite teams do.
Guy’s way beat a dead horse
games over so move on.
Clemson got what they want
a Win.