Laurel Island Development

Not sure if anyone has posted any of this…my burning question is will the old coal tipple, the posts and structures that hold so many sheepshead, be removed?? :frowning_face:

http://abcnews4.com/news/local/developers-hope-laurel-island-will-become-a-delightful-destination

http://abcnews4.com/news/local/from-landfill-to-lorelei-get-a-sneak-peek-at-the-new-laurel-island

http://www.loreleichs.com

There already marking it off it looks like from the bridge

The actual coal tipple is roped off?

Can you actually drive out there and fish?

17’ Mako

I dont think so…too marshy I think.

For those interested, the following is an email response to me from the developer re the coal tipple and Laurel Island Development…

Hi,

Thank you for reaching out.

The coal tipple and its associated rail trestle is actually not on the Laurel Island property - that is connected to the industrial parcel to the north and we do not know the owner’s plans for the rail trestle or coal tipple.

The visible ruins on the planned Lorelei site were the Standard Oil office used to manage the offload of oil from ships to tanks that used to be located along the shoreline. Our ruins are currently not designated on the National Register, but we are keenly interested in determining the proper handling / best use for them. We have not yet explored the costs or permitting issues associated with renovation and reuse, or preservation. When we get further into the development process we will work collaboratively with the City and historic preservation organizations to determine the best future for the Standard Oil ruins.

Thank you,

Melanie Mathos
Vice President | Lou Hammond Group

843.371.1363
louhammond.com
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Originally posted by Screamingdrag

Can you actually drive out there and fish?

17’ Mako


we used to drive down the railroad bed to the beginning of the visible structure- it was fenced off long ago to keep people out

Yeah it looked buoyed offed in a large area around the shoot, like a week ago.

To let you know that’s big business for nun ya, a polite way of telling you nothing and shutting you down. Trust me both parties involved in this acquisition knew and know all processes and cost involved, they just know large developmental projects draw a lot of attention and they want to minimize it. If everybody know what’s happening before it happens your gonna get resistance from someone who wants it done differently and building anything on the Charleston Peninsula has a whole lot of process to go thru, that’s why a lot of the buildings/houses look like crap, the preserved southern charm. I am pretty sure I watched a thing on the news explaining what the plans were but didn’t care enough to listen, the guy talking was some form of a Charleston representative and seemed vague and dodgy on what he was saying and I think he kept painting over every think with talk of a water front park. Try writing Mayor Tecklinberg. Funny thing my mom knows Lou Hammond, she’s a real nice Lady.

Just remember they are keenly interested in proper disposal and have not explored cost.

I think there is some kind of platform recently built on the very beginning of the tipple near the land. Not sure what it is for?


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Is there any sections of dirt left that a developer won’t try to cover with concrete?

I notice they pointed out “it isn’t nature, it’s a landfill”. Well, then it’s not a subdivision, it’s a landfill.

It IS nature, we’re running out of land that isn’t covered in hotels and condos.

Why would the City of Charleston think it’s a great idea to allow hotels, restaurants, shops, and homes on an abandoned landfill?

Why don’t they just say no?

Tax breaks are given to plantation owners to keep property from being developed, ( which I understand), and here we have an abandoned landfill potentially containing toxic waste that they’re wanting to greenlight sprawl onto.

Has anyone thought that the dirt covering on the landfill designed to keep potentially tocic materials buried may be solid enough to allow excess runoff into the river?

Can we have some land close to downtown that isn’t covered with condos and hotels?

I inquired about the new pilings sometime before thanksgiving and was told by permitting agencies they were being put in place to support some kind of manufacturing company that will be shipping product by barge all over the country. For the life of me I cant remember the exact product. But you will see that there is a land based structure at the terminus of the steel pilings directly parallel to the coal tipple tracks and a gentle slope of a fixed pier to the water. This facility is not on the Laurel Island/landfill property.

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Originally posted by pitcher

Is there any sections of dirt left that a developer won’t try to cover with concrete?

I notice they pointed out “it isn’t nature, it’s a landfill”. Well, then it’s not a subdivision, it’s a landfill.

It IS nature, we’re running out of land that isn’t covered in hotels and condos.

Why would the City of Charleston think it’s a great idea to allow hotels, restaurants, shops, and homes on an abandoned landfill?

Why don’t they just say no?

Tax breaks are given to plantation owners to keep property from being developed, ( which I understand), and here we have an abandoned landfill potentially containing toxic waste that they’re wanting to greenlight sprawl onto.

Has anyone thought that the dirt covering on the landfill designed to keep potentially tocic materials buried may be solid enough to allow excess runoff into the river?

Can we have some land close to downtown that isn’t covered with condos and hotels?


You are aware that the peninsula city is essentially landfill?

How long have you lived here and/or how old are you?

Pretty good chance I’ve lived here longer than you, unless you can beat 56 years.

I’m well aware a lot of the peninsula is landfill, I’ve studied a lot of the history of the area and have looked at maps dating from the 1700’s until present time.

I’m also aware the material used as landfill in the 1800’s and early 1900’s differs greatly from what’s potentially buried in the Romney Street area.

What’s wrong with saying “enough’s enough” when it comes to packing another condo/hotel/residential neighborhood onto every available piece of dirt in Charleston?

When is enough, enough?

Pitcher, if you don’t like it then buy the land yourself and nobody will build on it. I’m sick of all the people around here *****ing about what somebody else does on their own property. It must be tough for many in Charleston facing the harsh reality that “your city” doesn’t actually belong to you.


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Originally posted by pitcher

Pretty good chance I’ve lived here longer than you, unless you can beat 56 years.

I’m well aware a lot of the peninsula is landfill, I’ve studied a lot of the history of the area and have looked at maps dating from the 1700’s until present time.

I’m also aware the material used as landfill in the 1800’s and early 1900’s differs greatly from what’s potentially buried in the Romney Street area.

What’s wrong with saying “enough’s enough” when it comes to packing another condo/hotel/residential neighborhood onto every available piece of dirt in Charleston?

When is enough, enough?


Lol. I got you by a couple of years, unfortunately. We probably know each other or have mutual friends :slight_smile:

I don’t disagree with you. I guess I have just come to accept reality. Truth is Charleston sold out ages ago.

We will just have remember the good times going to 96Wavefests at these former dumps. Or shooting rats at the city dump now called Brittlebank/WestEdge then wandering over to Limehouse’s Gulf Station to underage drink beer because we could

It was good to see in the paper this am that M Dumas has signed on for another year (though a shell of its former self)

Instituitions like Morris Sokol, Bob Ellis, Hughes Lumber and the grocery store on Meeting (always known to me as the Meeting St Pig) all went by the wayside with little notice this year. Makes me sad

SO Great White… tell us what attracted you Charleston. The great resaurants? Moderate weather and accessible beaches? Co-eds @ The College?

Born and raised, family has been here for a very long time. But I don’t own the city so you won’t see me with any “Save _________” bumper stickers on my car.

IMO this is just another form of the entitlement attitude.

What’s wrong with “enough if enough”? Land is an investment. Not allowing people to develop on their own land would diminish the value of that investment. And blocking this because some selfish residents don’t want change? Give me a break. Permitting here is enough of a PITA as it is.

If this development was to expose residents to anything toxic that would be a different story. But that would fall on the permitting office for allowing unsafe development.


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Originally posted by Great White

Pitcher, if you don’t like it then buy the land yourself and nobody will build on it. I’m sick of all the people around here *****ing about what somebody else does on their own property. It must be tough for many in Charleston facing the harsh reality that “your city” doesn’t actually belong to you.


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I see your point Great White, If it’s not your property it’s not your business what the owner does. I just hate development. Especially on and around our marshes. I know I can’t stop it, but i do remember coming to Charleston to the commissary with mom on a single lane road with no traffic. I also remember walking the Battery with it pretty much all to myself.

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Wait until you see the amount of trucks on I 26 and the Ravenel bridge when they open the new N. Charleston Port Terminal. I still don’t know who signed off on filling about 50 acres or more of the Cooper River between the PRC marina and the navy ships. They closed the Spruill Ave exit so they can build a new heavy duty exit to support all the container trucks.

I am sure only a small part of the community knows what has been done. Add this to the other projects toward the Ravenel bridge and it will become extremely congested.

Robert Olsen

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Originally posted by knot @ work

Wait until you see the amount of trucks on I 26 and the Ravenel bridge when they open the new N. Charleston Port Terminal. I still don’t know who signed off on filling about 50 acres or more of the Cooper River between the PRC marina and the navy ships. They closed the Spruill Ave exit so they can build a new heavy duty exit to support all the container trucks.

I am sure only a small part of the community knows what has been done. Add this to the other projects toward the Ravenel bridge and it will become extremely congested.

Robert Olsen


This. That marina is more than likely going away at some point too. Probably sooner than I think unfortunately

“mr keys”

quote:
Originally posted by knot @ work

Wait until you see the amount of trucks on I 26 and the Ravenel bridge when they open the new N. Charleston Port Terminal. I still don’t know who signed off on filling about 50 acres or more of the Cooper River between the PRC marina and the navy ships. They closed the Spruill Ave exit so they can build a new heavy duty exit to support all the container trucks.

I am sure only a small part of the community knows what has been done. Add this to the other projects toward the Ravenel bridge and it will become extremely congested.

Robert Olsen


We need that inland port that got scrapped a few years ago. All Charlestown needs is more traffic ~~

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