Read this piece by George Poveromo - George Poveromo’s World of Saltwater Fishing
“SUPERCHARGE YOUR LIVE BAITS” http://www.georgepoveromo.com/content.php?pid=64 .
Any of you done this or ever heard of this? I’m impressed!
I started doing it about 20 years ago…Its been around a while.
Tom, that topic was brought up before. I’m having no luck in finding it, as I get a 404 error when trying to use the search function.
I actually have one of those setups that came with a boat I purchased a few years ago. Previous owner liked using it to fish for Kings. I’m sure energizing any live bait would be a good thing and plan to put it to use…someday:smiley:!
Btw, you plan to use it in the Gulf??
NN
HamSlamma – If you don’t mind elaborating a little and you have time, please tell me about your 20 years experience. I would really appreciate your first-hand knowledge about this. I’m going to research this “supercharging” more; how it works, what it does, how do you use it, how much do you give your bait, etc. I know that hospitals, doctors, welders, lonely shiner dealers around freshwater lakes use it every day. I’ve seen pro football players getting supercharged on the sidelines with the little o2 tanks and O2 mask, clearly, they like it. Don’t know if they are just getting high on it or getting supercharged, but they sure use it often during a game. Maybe getting high is like getting supercharged and it’s clearly legal and cheap and they do it in front of the public and national TV.
Are baitfish really pumped up when you have used it compared to pumping thousands of gallons of water through your livewell daily?
Doublen – I would use it all the time including large gulf baits… who wouldn’t? If this bait rig is really does this, the world of live bait fishing would surely be revolutionized for sure. A few hundred dollars for a new toy is nothing if the toy works like Poveromo claims it works. I have ruined many fishing trips in my life with crappy livewells killing my bait before noon. Clearly the lonely land-locked shiner dealers are definitely on to something and have known about this for ever.
Richard – O2 tabs are sure priced right for sure @ $6 a pop… heck of a deal. Thanks for the alternative.
I wrote a few articles on using oxygen,there so old I cant find them.
Here is one http://tnfreebird.proboards.com/thread/9435/oxygenating-live-wells-clear-lexan
A lot of serious striper fisherman do this with their bait tanks. They’ll take an oxygen bottle just like a person would use and inject oxygen into their tanks with it. Even those with tanks that have a Dannco Venturi setup will use the oxygen bottle.
-The size of a fish is directly proportional to the time between when it’s lost and the story is told. - Me
-What’s the best eating fish, you ask? I’ve found that for a lot people, its the ones that they happen to be able to catch, clean, and cook. - My Dad
-Until you have loved a dog, part of your soul remains unawakened. Anatole France (paraphrased)
-RIP my “Puppy Dog” 10/15/2004 - 1/14/2013. I’ll never forget him. What a special friend he was.
-Team Gonna Fish
Tom M, there is some good info here:
http://www.oxygeninfuser.com/guide.htm
'07 198 DLX Carolina Skiff
FS90 Suzuki
Been doing this with baits for kingfishing for close to 10 years.
Years ago, fished for big trout in Baffin Bay, south TX. They kept huge number of bait in tiny tank, using O2 bottle. Bait stayed very happy. Wish I’d paid more attention to nozzle, Venturi or whatever. But it worked.
Actually they use small croakers for bait, which are trying to eat trout eggs, and trout are defending. And they catch big trout.
Striperskiff -
Thanks for the url… I opened Pandora’s Box, spent some time on the website and discovered a vast amount of scientific based information; check this out:
GUIDE TO FISHING AERATION AND OXYGEN SYSTEMS - Understanding the Concept Between Aeration and Oxygenation Systems http://oxyedge-chum.com/understanding-the-concept-between-livewell-aeration-and-livewell-oxygenation/
And here too:
SUPERCHARGE LIVE BAIT WITH OXYGEN - HOW DOES THAT REALLY WORK? HTTP://OXYEDGE-CHUM.COM/SUPERCHARGE-LIVE-BAITS/SUPERCHARGE-LIVE-BAIT-WITH-OXYGEN-HOW-DOES-THAT-REALLY-WORK/
Hamslamma – You’re right, your piece is quiet old as you say, 5-6 years old. There’s a lot of current more accurate information above that is backed in current fishery science that is up to date, 2015… the newest information available is surely something to consider if you ever write an updated piece on this subject.
http://www.oxygeninfuser.com/guide.htm Example: AN AERATOR IS TO A FISH, WHAT A SNORKEL IS TO US! And the point of this is what?
Facts about snorkels and using a snorkel - The optimum design length of the snorkel tube is at most 40 centimeters (about 16 inches). Deeper under water than 16 inches, your lungs would then be unable to inflate when you, the snorkeler inhales, because the muscles that expand the lungs are not strong enough to operate against the higher water pressure. Plus the pressure difference across the tissues in the lungs, between the blood capillaries and air spaces would increase the risk of pulmonary edema. A longer tube would not allow breathing when snorkelling deeper, since it would place the lungs in deeper water where the surrounding water pressure is higher.
Having hauled large amounts of fish/bait up and down the coast, the “cheapest” way is an oxygen diffuser (porcelain is the best, if memory serves me correct). It’s all about surface area of the O2 bubbles (smallest is best) to surface area of the water. The next step is a decent regulator. Trust me…there is a LARGE learning curve about the biology! But keep in mind, too much O2 can “burn” the critters!!! I’m a firm believer in “pumping water”…not necessarily adding O2…IMHO…I’m no biologist, but me dad iz!..and he befo stull iz! Dats y I hab me a bunch of shrump talze & fush in me freezer…mos all bin from da farm!
“NICE REPORT” LIKKA LOGGA
MY HERO!!!
Baitman,
Evidently you are absolutely right about “pure O2 burning the critters.” Pure O2 is very toxic and causes chemical burns to delicate tissue with sustained exposure.
At first I questioned your statement until I did more research.
I found that the O2 toxicity problem really has less to do with “too much dissolved O2” in the water and everything to do with the physical size of the “O2 bubbles” in the water that are so small they cannot escape the livewell water column and coalesce to delicate tissue burning the tissue.
I found this about the toxic O2 bubbles and the diffusers that make them in small 20 gallon livewells:
TOXIC MICRO-FINE OXYGEN BUBBLES KILL BAIT AND FISH
Toxic Micro-Fine Oxygen Bubbles – Thousands of Micro-Fine Oxygen Bubbles that remain suspended in livewell and bait tank water columns can kill live bait and tournament fish during transports. These tiny micro-fine bubbles are so small and light that they cannot escape the water surface and remain suspended in the water column. Exposure to micro-fine oxygen bubbles burn, scare and damage delicate cell tissue.
A LESSON IN OXYGEN BUBBLE SIZE IN SPORTSMEN’S LIVEWELLS AND BAIT TANKS
-
Water and gas chemistry – micro-fine oxygen bubbles so tiny they remain suspended in the water column that make livewell water look milky transfer oxygen into solution fast and efficiently, quickly saturating/supersaturating water in seconds in a typical 20-30 gallon livewell or bait tank. Diffusers that make larger bubbles may take an extra minute or two to achieve the same DO saturation/supersaturation, but the final result is the same DO Saturation.
-
Fish Physiology and Fish Pathology – another matter that is seldom mentioned is that micro-fine oxygen bubbles negatively affect fish health – oxygen poisoning caused by continuous exposure to micro fine oxygen bubbles that coalesce to fish gills, cornea’s, scales, skin and fins can cause serious chemical burns and tissue damage resulting in blindness, death or disabling
Very thorough and informative. As I mentioned in my earlier comment, there’s a LARGE learning curve. One can cintrol the amount of O2 rolling thru the stone/tank by simply adjusting the regulator. This is “magic #” is found thru trial and error and experience. Again, I am no biologist, but I have a LOT of first hand knowledge of transporting many different species of aquatic life around in a tank for extended periods of time. My preferred method for keeping bait “fresh” is pumping water.
“NICE REPORT” LIKKA LOGGA
MY HERO!!!