Looking for tips on installing tie downs

Got it.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Flicker, a pleasure to meet you. I drilled 2 little holes in your boat this evening, did you feel the pain in Aiken?

Big holes tomorrow :smiley:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Wait! That’s not where he wanted it.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

Thanks Larry. Was great to meet you too. You have a great looking operation going on. I think that your custom boat building is fascinating.

No, I didn’t feel pain but did think about it a lot. I am getting used to the idea of putting holes in my boat. It takes a little bit of time even if they aren’t in the hull.

Looks like it’s coming along great.

We didn’t talk about it or look at the slots on the cooler for the tie down straps. I’m sure that you’ve found them right above the carrying handles in the lip of the cooler. Need to open the lid to see them. Wanted to mention it so that you’d be sure to mount the tie downs so the straps are straight (don’t twist by 90 degrees).

Thanks again for the help. I really appreciate it.

Mike

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Wait! That's not where he wanted it.

Please say it ain’t so [:0]

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No, I didn't feel pain but did think about it a lot.

Did you feel these? Almost hurts me too :smiley:

Actually, I enjoy cutting into boats that I’ve never seen the guts of. Learn something new with every hole. Often you find cores resembling potting soil, not too often you find a really nice layup. This boat is built very well :sunglasses:

The core is 1/2" plastic honeycomb. 3M Nida-Core is my guess, very good stuff. The lamination is perfect, with about 3/16 of glass on each side. Excuse the bad picture. Total thickness 7/8". The metal cup is a little deeper than that, so had to drill all the way through.

Even though this core can’t rot, if moisture gets in on raw edges it can de-laminate the bond between the outer glass and core over time. It is fairly easy to crush it with bolt tension also. So what I do with this is router out that core about 1/2" all around the perimeter inside the hole with a rabbit bit. Wide enough to encompass the mounting bolt holes too.

I will pour a solid epoxy/fiberglass plug to fill this entire void, then re-drill all holes to size. Got some more pics, but Droid and photobucket aren’t playing well together right now.

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be sure to mount the tie downs so the straps are straight (don't twist by 90 degrees).

Yes, for sure. Also wanted to mention that we got lucky and just missed those deck stiffeners we were worried about. Not a problem.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Wow. Looks like it’s coming along great. I’m so glad to have your expertise on the job. Looks to be more to it than I thought.

Nothing but a thing, Mike. I’ve think I’ve spent half my life working on rotten boats, you learn what works in the long term and what doesn’t. And how to keep from having a rotten boat 20 years down the road.

As soon as it cools off a little I’m going to pour some epoxy, it’s too hot right now. When you confine a volume of epoxy in a tight place at high ambient temperatures it creates too much heat and goes volcanic. Boils, bubbles, erupts and does an ugly job. I’ll fill it in 2 different pours. One this evening late, another in the morning early. Should be finished with it by Monday morning.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

More boat porn!!! I love it!
That is a very neat and professional job right there.

218WA Sailfish
The "Penn"sion Plan

Dang Larry, it is really a pleasure watching an artist work. I feel the same way when I see stuff Happy Bob makes.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

More porn :smiley:

Then I make a dam on the bottom of the holes with heavy tape, and pour in thickened epoxy. Thick enough for good strength, loose enough so it will pour and fill any voids. Filled both holes only half way full, don’t want it to go exothermic, which it will in this heat. In cool weather I could do it all at once, not today. Will complete the fill in the morning.

And covered in plastic for the night in case it rains. Thundering all afternoon, just a few drops of rain so far.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Looks fantastic. I also really like to watch the job progress. Thanks for posting the pics.

Looks like you got all the bases (and holes) covered well. We got a good soaking rain here last night.

I’ll plan to come down on Monday evening to pick it up. I’ll call to confirm before I leave.

You really do great work. Thanks again.

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I also really like to watch the job progress. Thanks for posting the pics.

I thought you would like to see it happening.

Yesterday’s epoxy cured perfectly and I made the final pour about 0630 this morning while it was cool. Sure didn’t want this to boil over, that would be a mess! First I perfectly level the deck in both directions, so that gravity will allow the epoxy to self-level itself flush to the deck. Then filled the holes up to the top.

I will let that cure for 12-24 hours, we’ll see, then drill the final holes and permanently mount the fittings. The tricky work is done, it’s easy from here.

She will be finished tomorrow afternoon for sure, Mike. Whatever is convenient for you is fine. If for some reason I’m not here, hook up to it and go :sunglasses:

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Dang good idea. I didn’t think about leveling the boat. It would have occurred to me after the epoxy was crooked in the non-level hole.

I’ll plan to be there some where between 6:30 and 7:00 tomorrow evening. It depends on when I can leave work.

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Dang good idea. I didn't think about leveling the boat.

This isn’t the first hole I’ve filled in a boat :smiley:

It will be finished by noon tomorrow, but don’t feel in any rush to come get it. I know how Mondays can be. Got plenty of room and it’s safe here. It’s not in my way and if it is, I’ll move it. Whenever it’s easy for you is fine with me.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Thanks Larry,

I would like to get it sooner rather than later. I have a busy week and will leave for Florida for a family visit on Thursday morning.

I can’t wait to put into action.

I really appreciate your work and hospitality.

Mike

After the epoxy cured a full day, I re-drilled the holes to final size. This is the reinforced epoxy plug that now seals the core forever, and protects it from the crushing forces of the bolts.

Seal with a little 5200 for the belt and suspenders approach, and mount them.

Cleaned up the 5200 squeeze out with mineral spirits, vacuum up all the drill shavings, cleaned off my dirty foot prints and blood stains, nicked my finger with the hole saw and bled all over the man’s boat :face_with_head_bandage:

All finished and ready for pick up.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose

Dang Larry that looks great! You are truly a craftsman and a heck of a nice guy.

Hey Flicker, if you don’t mind me asking, where did you get those tie-downs. I like the looks of them.

“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.

Good for you as usual, Larry!!

NN

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Sure DF.

I bought them on line through a small marine store in California. They had the best price.

www.mmimarine.com

They’re made by Accon in Clearwater, FL. I got the small of the two sizes - p/n Accon196.

I talked to them on the phone b/c they’re listed as “not in stock - drop ship.”

I had them quote the shipping as part of the order and it saved a couple of bucks over their standard shipping cost.

You can get them direct from Accon but they’re more expensive and the shipping is more. Made a difference of more than $10 on the order.

I’m kinda cheap and look for the cheapest way to get stuff.