NC Flounder Fishing

North Carolina is about to shut down flounder fishing for a while.

https://www.carolinasportsman.com/fishing/inshore-fishing/flounder/flounder-harvest-will-close-for-n-c-anglers-in-august/

My concern is what effect it will potentially have on our fishery short term and long term. Thoughts?

-The size of a fish is directly proportional to the time between when it’s lost and the story is told. - Me
-What’s the best eating fish, you ask? I’ve found that for a lot people, its the ones that they happen to be able to catch, clean, and cook. - My Dad (1/13/37 - 9/27/16 I love you Pops)
-Until you have loved a dog, part of your soul remains unawakened. Anatole France (paraphrased)
-RIP my “Puppy Dog” 10/15/2004 - 1/14/2013. I’ll never forget him. What a special friend he was.
-Team Gonna Fish

Are you thinking that all the NC guys will be coming here to flounder fish?The last time I was there about 30 years ago,an old buddy and me would set up gill nets specifically for flounder. I think if they outlawed gill nets everything would be alright.

Yes, this is part of my concern. Plus, we seem to follow their regs somewhat (size limits, creel, etc.). I just would hate to see us lose our flounder fishing and gigging.

-The size of a fish is directly proportional to the time between when it’s lost and the story is told. - Me
-What’s the best eating fish, you ask? I’ve found that for a lot people, its the ones that they happen to be able to catch, clean, and cook. - My Dad (1/13/37 - 9/27/16 I love you Pops)
-Until you have loved a dog, part of your soul remains unawakened. Anatole France (paraphrased)
-RIP my “Puppy Dog” 10/15/2004 - 1/14/2013. I’ll never forget him. What a special friend he was.
-Team Gonna Fish

quote:
Originally posted by sman

… I think if they outlawed gill nets everything would be alright.


After reading some of the comments on THT, I believe that gill nets and trawling specifically for fish (flounder) are a large part of the decline in their fishery. I never realized that it was such a large part of their fishery. It doesn’t seem like we have the same amount of gill netting going on here and I hope it stays that way. I would hate to see a gill net half way across every creek in the state.

-The size of a fish is directly proportional to the time between when it’s lost and the story is told. - Me
-What’s the best eating fish, you ask? I’ve found that for a lot people, its the ones that they happen to be able to catch, clean, and cook. - My Dad (1/13/37 - 9/27/16 I love you Pops)
-Until you have loved a dog, part of your soul remains unawakened. Anatole France (paraphrased)
-RIP my “Puppy Dog” 10/15/2004 - 1/14/2013. I’ll never forget him. What a special friend he was.
-Team Gonna Fish

I don’t think gillnets are going to make a comeback in SC. I’m glad about that and also you would never see any net I set out.haha.SCDNR is doing a great job managing the fish.

quote:
Originally posted by sman

I don’t think gillnets are going to make a comeback in SC. I’m glad about that and also you would never see any net I set out.haha.SCDNR is doing a great job managing the fish.


I hope not, but with a commercial, non-resident gill net license costing only $50, those NC fisherman could come south…

-The size of a fish is directly proportional to the time between when it’s lost and the story is told. - Me
-What’s the best eating fish, you ask? I’ve found that for a lot people, its the ones that they happen to be able to catch, clean, and cook. - My Dad (1/13/37 - 9/27/16 I love you Pops)
-Until you have loved a dog, part of your soul remains unawakened. Anatole France (paraphrased)
-RIP my “Puppy Dog” 10/15/2004 - 1/14/2013. I’ll never forget him. What a special friend he was.
-Team Gonna Fish

It’s a very emotional topic on THT…

https://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfishing-charters-forum/1016525-closing-recreational-flounder-nc.html

https://www.thehulltruth.com/carolinas/1015069-closing-flounder.html

https://www.thehulltruth.com/carolinas/1016717-house-bill-483-let-them-spawn.html

https://www.thehulltruth.com/carolinas/1001832-two-new-nc-fisheries-bills-introduced.html

I just want all of that to stay north…

-The size of a fish is directly proportional to the time between when it’s lost and the story is told. - Me
-What’s the best eating fish, you ask? I’ve found that for a lot people, its the ones that they happen to be able to catch, clean, and cook. - My Dad (1/13/37 - 9/27/16 I love you Pops)
-Until you have loved a dog, part of your soul remains unawakened. Anatole France (paraphrased)
-RIP my “Puppy Dog” 10/15/2004 - 1/14/2013. I’ll never forget him. What a special friend he was.
-Team Gonna Fish

I live in North Myrtle Beach.
The gillnetters hit Bonaparte Creek and all the little feeder creeks in that area pretty hard.

I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.

I’ve grown up here in SC all my life. As a child in the seventies and eighties we were able to easily catch twenty flounder in N inlet every trip.
Now seven is a good day.
I appreciate the flounder fishery and I like what they are trying to do with the size limits. It’s just not enough.
I have a theory shrimp trawlers are the number one depleter of flounder populations with giggers a close second.
The laws are not enforced with the commercial fisheries especially with giggers as they should be. Yea I know its illegal but I have seen it done.
Of course the trawlers bycatch usually is dead by the time it’s hauled in. They have no size or cull limits and can sell their flounder market price.
As an individual who has gigged many flounder and caught even more I always practice conscious culling.
If you have fillets from last year in the freeze then release. Nothing worse than not being responsibly efficient with consuming a natural resource that has dwindled for the last four decades.

If I thought I could deal with reasonable people in government, I’d run for office. Recreational fisherpeople would have totally more rights than they currently have and freekin net fisherman (except shrimpers) would be phased out.


Capt. Garry Coats
Folly Beach & CHS
@DolphinChartersSC

quote:
Originally posted by sman

I don’t think gillnets are going to make a comeback in SC. I’m glad about that and also you would never see any net I set out.haha.SCDNR is doing a great job managing the fish.


I’d say you are right and I’m glad as well. I do remember 35-40 years ago setting up on Edisto beach at night. Amazing the variety of fish you catch in a Gill net. Then in the rivers for Shad, again amazing the variety you catch. I’ve seen some HUGE rockfish come out of the Combahee. Of course they were not legal to keep, but many did anyway. I could see the Problem in N.C. if Gill nets are used in volume. They indiscriminately catch everything.