New Regulations

There was a post in the reports sections on huge trout that everyone called bs on, but people mentioned new regulations. I would love to hear those proposals because I think our regulations need some tinkering. I want to hear the ideas on new regulations. Personally I think a size limit on trout would be a good idea. I’d also like to see smaller bag limits on almost all inshore species. Seriously, who needs 6 fillets of reds (3 fish), and I hate to see the pics of 20 gigged flounder, 15 trout, 5 sheepshead, or even 15 mahi’s. Just a personal opinion that have absolutely no factual basis, but I am always open for constructive criticism.

I don’t think there is a perfect answer to this question, but do you really new to keep more than one fish to feed yourself unless your feeding a family. It kills me to see people keep a bunch of fish and then put them in a deep freezer and never eat them. Then they get freezer burnt and they toss it in the trash. I’m sure this isn’t a perfect list, but I would definately love to see some tinkering done to the regs as well.

Redfish 18"-27" 1 per person per day gigging prohibited
Kill/Trophy Tag 1fish per year over 27" $100 tag

Sheepshead 12" minimum 5 per day per person

Trout 14"-20" 3 per day, 1 per person over 20" per day included in 3 per day total

Flounder 12" minimum 5 per day, gigging okay at 5 per day

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Originally posted by wino86

There was a post in the reports sections on huge trout that everyone called bs on, but people mentioned new regulations. I would love to hear those proposals because I think our regulations need some tinkering. I want to hear the ideas on new regulations. Personally I think a size limit on trout would be a good idea. I’d also like to see smaller bag limits on almost all inshore species. Seriously, who needs 6 fillets of reds (3 fish), and I hate to see the pics of 20 gigged flounder, 15 trout, 5 sheepshead, or even 15 mahi’s. Just a personal opinion that have absolutely no factual basis, but I am always open for constructive criticism.


Maybe you should if you don't already impose these limits on yourself. The biologists have set the limits and I feel sure if and when they feel the individual fisheries need more regulation they will take care of it. As far as looking at pictures of 20 gigged flounder I would suggest that you do not open the topics that are related to gigging.

I’d agree w inshore but I’d like to keep the flounder at 14 as a min

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This is always an interesting topic when it comes up. The guys that get to go frequently are always in favor of tighter limits and the ones that only go so often or may have to drive some distance to get to the coast mostly want the opposite. I am not a fan of saying tighten. All of the regs because some of them may not need to be changed. I believe the redfish regs are working well. Having spent my entire life here, the fishery is as healthy as it has ever been. While one person feels that people do not need 6 filets, if you have a family of 4 or 5, that is what it takes to make a meal. I do agree that some species probably need another look, but you have to take into acct. some people do not fish more than a couple of times a year. The only seafood I ever freeze is shrimp and some offshore species like dolphin and tuna, but I prefer fresh fish inshore and release most of what I catch. I have always wondered why we have not gone to boat limits on inshore species. Have a per person limit and a boat limit. This would keep a boat of 4 people from potentially wiping out a school of fish where higher bag limits are allowed, like sheepshead or spade fish. I self impose my own limits well beyond what DNR sets, but I have then good fortune of having a boat on the water and easy access anytime I can break away and go.

i think their should be 2 bull red tags per fishing license or 1 per boat,not for people to go out and to keep a 40’’ red but so when you land a bull and he’s so tired he’s not gonna live they dont go to waste. and you should be able to purchase 2 more over slot tags per year for $20 a piece and those tags that you buy shouldnt include redfish. and im not sure about the sheepshead stuff but their needs to be a bag limit on that species.

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When I moved here from TX, I was surprised that the slot for reds is so small. There it is 20-28", and you get a tag for one overslot fish. If you use your tag, you can buy one more for $3. I never had a reason to keep an overslot fish, would rather have them out there to make babies that I can catch and eat if I feel so inclined. (except the day I caught an absolutely huge (~54") fish in the surf and didn’t have a camera - almost kept it just so I could show it off… but, the fish lived to see another day, and I later learned that the state record fish was only 54-1/4"! oh well.)

But I have to say, the inshore fishery here seems pretty darn healthy, and given the number of people out there fishing I think that says something about SCDNR’s efforts. They do seem to know what they are doing, at least for the most part.


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Well it is a good topic. I do believe some fish need protecting from over fishing. I remember living in Maryland and having to put up with the striper closure. It worked and look at that fishery now. SC Reds are the same way with the slot thats why we can keep 3 fish. What I’m trying to say is pick the fish that need help recovering. Don’t put all fish in the same category because you don’t like seeing large catches coming to the dock. The only thing I can agree on is lowering the flounder limit to 10.

A wise man once said “Do as I say not as I do” Good advice when I tell you that.

I wish they’d up the trout to 15" and limit them to 5 per person.

you all complain about the offshore closures and limits in place now, keep wishing for all of these inshore limits and soon you will just own a boat to take up space in your yard!

In my opinion…there should be a minimum size on sheepshead…A 15" trout minimum vs. 14", i would agree with that, keeping a bull redfish, or increasing the slot on redfish in order to keep bigger fish, i dont agree with that, let those redfish make babies. also fine tune the slot on redfish to 20-23 inches.

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Originally posted by Capt.Jeremy

In my opinion…there should be a minimum size on sheepshead…A 15" trout minimum vs. 14", i would agree with that, keeping a bull redfish, or increasing the slot on redfish in order to keep bigger fish, i dont agree with that, let those redfish make babies. also fine tune the slot on redfish to 20-23 inches.


keep redfish slot the same or go up to 18'' minimum size. a 15 incher is to small

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thats what i was saying,…redfish slot 20-23 inches…

what exactly would the difference be in keeping 3 15" fish or 3 23" fish be to the fishery???

what exactly would the difference be in keeping 3 15" fish or 3 23" fish be to the fishery???

maybe they should limit the # of days you can fish.(maybe call in and reg your number before going out for the day)

fish tags,much like turkey tags.

or just close the whole operation

killing a redfish over 32" for a trophy is crazy

Strictly going by the posts on here, for every fish kept for the table, there are 10+ caught and released. I know that Hairball and I rarely keep fish, except black drum, flounder and trout or a gill hooked red. And those catches are few. We have a healthy fishery because, in my opinion, the majority of us catch and release. Not everyone posts catches, but I would still almost bet that more are released than kept.

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Flyinghigh, I am confused in how you believe slightly tighter inshore regs through the SCDNR would promote an inshore closure…Being proactive in size/catch limits IMO would help to alleviate any kind of fed closure, not promote it. That being said IMO most of our state regs are pretty well in line…The proposed sheepshead limits coming I see as a positive thing. 20 flounder per person is crazy, maybe cap it at 20 per boat or 10 per person. 20 spadefish per person is also crazy, one of the lowcountry’s best fisheries to introduce youngsters on the ocean has turned into a 2 week season around charleston b/c many folks feel the need to keep 40-50 fish per boat per trip. Kill numbers like that wipe out a school of 300 spades pretty quick on any particular reef. These are just what I see as a concern, I just happen to see and talk about this stuff 5 days a week. Just IMO from my experiences, good topic and everyone is entitled to their view on the subject.

I reckon I’ll help beat this dead horse.

Reds seem good where they are…if its shown that 24" fish is sexually mature and can breed, why not end the slot there? if anything , keep it at 23" and move the bottom slot to 18". That way the 3 fish creel can remain intact.

flounder in the southeast is a joke…saddening. at this point, since the state is too weak (or driven by other issues) to be proactive the only thing left is a federal mandated decrease. (and I hope it drops it to 3-5 per person.)

sheepshead 12" fork length 5 per person. same for spades

proaction is the key…and there’s no such thing as that with government.

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