the thing comes down to this. IF they start working pon the east coast, they will need massive infrastructure ashore. this means tons of money potentially in jobs and industrialization. take a ride down the oil corridor in houston and have a look at the office buildings filled with high paying jobs. the only question is where assets will be located ashore. if beaufort says “not here” then they will go down the road. simple as that. someone will want to make money.
Some local, Beaufort, news if anyone is interested/following.
http://www.islandpacket.com/2015/02/11/3586372/offshore-drilling-opposed-by-beaufort.html
As someone who has lived in charleston for the past 5 years and spend 6 months out of the year working on an oil rig in the gulf of mexico i can assure you that almost 75% of the comment that have been made in this forum are incorrect. There have been 5 siesmic boats blasting around the rig the last five days, and I caught 15 blackfin last night, there are porpoise and birds all over the place. As far as jobs there are no UNIONS never was never will be. The industry will bring many jobs to the area, by the way I believe the lowest paying job on this rig starts at 65k a year with benefits. What we saw from the macondo well was a tragedy and it was all human error it should have never happened. There is an incredible safety culture out here and we make sure there are no adverse effect to the environment.
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Originally posted by baracudai was at the meeting. here is what i took from it. the crowd was 90% over 60 crowd, 5% hippies, 5% possibly interested in outdoor sports.
there was very little about the impact of drilling and exploration. the main point of the seismic debate presented by the oceana rep was that it would disorient and kill marine mammals. yes, they will have to use the air guns over a large area, but they are not going 25 kts running long lines up and down. they run grids in relatively short areas at a very modest speed, around 5 kts. there are ramp up procedures for increasing decibel levels to clearing out any mammals from the area before the loudest blasts start. oceana continued to whine about loud noises. i don’t recall the name, but one of the panelists was from goldfinch who promptly pointed out that the gulf of mexico has been mapped extensively and thoroughly by multiple companies over the last 30 years, but there are no mass whale and dolphin beachings. in contrast, there were 2 whales that beached themselves last year in the hilton head area on their own accord. this was the extent of the seismic survey debate. final score by my tally was Goldfinch et al 3, oceana 0.
the main body of the talk was about economic impacts locally. i have to jump on a plane, so i will go more into this later.
Stephen Goldfinch
“Sleep When You’re Dead!”
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Originally posted by Phin There is no need for that as long as there is a 50 mile buffer as they're proposing. Those areas won't get drilled in to begin with, and they can leave us recreational fishermen alone.
Bump.
Looks like Gov McCrory & Tim Scott are getting their way with the Murkowski bill that removes the 50 mile buffer…latest I can find is that it passed committee.
South Carolina takes a second serious hit in the Murkowski bill. The draft plan by BOEM says no drilling off the SC coast can take place within 50 miles of the shoreline. Murkowski?s bill has no buffer, potentially opening up the drilling area to all federal waters off the four South Atlantic states to just three miles offshore at the state?s water boundary.
From:
http://www.moultrienews.com/article/20150807/MN01/150809793/
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Originally posted by Post Quartermasterquote:
Originally posted by Phin There is no need for that as long as there is a 50 mile buffer as they're proposing. Those areas won't get drilled in to begin with, and they can leave us recreational fishermen alone.
Bump.
Looks like Gov McCrory & Tim Scott are getting their way with the Murkowski bill that removes the 50 mile buffer…latest I can find is that it passed committee.
South Carolina takes a second serious hit in the Murkowski bill. The draft plan by BOEM says no drilling off the SC coast can take place within 50 miles of the shoreline. Murkowski?s bill has no buffer, potentially opening up the drilling area to all federal waters off the four South Atlantic states to just three miles offshore at the state?s water boundary.
From:
http://www.moultrienews.com/article/20150807/MN01/150809793/
Going to give some people a call about this. Was off my radar, so thanks for posting.
http://www.sustainablefishing.org/
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Luke 8:22-25
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Originally posted by Phinquote:
Originally posted by Post Quartermasterquote:
Originally posted by Phin There is no need for that as long as there is a 50 mile buffer as they're proposing. Those areas won't get drilled in to begin with, and they can leave us recreational fishermen alone.
Bump.
Looks like Gov McCrory & Tim Scott are getting their way with the Murkowski bill that removes the 50 mile buffer…latest I can find is that it passed committee.
South Carolina takes a second serious hit in the Murkowski bill. The draft plan by BOEM says no drilling off the SC coast can take place within 50 miles of the shoreline. Murkowski?s bill has no buffer, potentially opening up the drilling area to all federal waters off the four South Atlantic states to just three miles offshore at the state?s water boundary.
From:
http://www.moultrienews.com/article/20150807/MN01/150809793/
Going to give some people a call about this. Was off my radar, so thanks for posting.
http://www.sustainablefishing.org/
www.joinrfa.com
Luke 8:22-25
Find anything?
Hmmm… That’s odd… You guys said, that this would be the next best thing to sliced bread and we should support drilling “way offshore” so that we could have a tuna fishery like Venice. I remember saying otherwise… Now, we are talking about having oil rigs within 50 miles. Do you guys honestly think that they will protect live bottoms and ledges with BILLIONS of dollars of “resources” underneath them? We have a different ecosystem than the upper gulf. Be thankful with what we have. We have a great fishery. Don’t beg oil tycoons to come in and destroy our natural resources, so you might hope to see a yellowfin tuna. That’s ridiculous.
yellabird, I know that you are pro-drill because of “jobs”, but there are other ways to get jobs that do not involve destroying our natural live bottoms. I commend you for trying to get more jobs, but this is NOT the right path…
And anyone who does not think that this will change our ecosystem PERMANENTLY is not looking at the BIG PICTURE…
Do NOT let big oil get it’s foot in the door… Even if the bill passed that keeps them out past 50 miles, once they prove “economic benefit”, how long do you think it will take to pass a new bill that changes that one? You’ll be looking at oil rigs from the Folly Pier one day… Mark my words…
Don’t cut off the nose to spite the face… Get them out of here… I don’t care how many jobs there are in Houston, it’s an ugly place…
With 35 dollar a barrel oil, I can’t see this as an issue anytime soon.
Next tuesday Sept 15 at Patriots Point Mt P 6:30-8:30 there is a meeting regarding the drilling and problems. Several key politicians and state leaders are in charge and speaking at this. Please attend if you can. Actions will always speak louder than typing on a keyboard people!
http://www.dontdrillsc-lowcountry.org/
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Originally posted by RedstripeWith 35 dollar a barrel oil, I can’t see this as an issue anytime soon.
My understanding is that they will be looking for natural gas not crude oil.
Mayhem
Pioneer 197
Well we have a massive stock of nat gas and crude oil right now…so either way this whole thing is wrong and must be stopped. These days they can tell us one thing and do another and it never matters. The “system” of checks and balances and accountability is completely gone.
If any one who is for the drilling needs to do a couple of things before they solidify their decision. Put on a white or off white pair of shorts and wade out in the surf in Galveston texas for just a sec and see what the result is…consider the marine life people eat in that area after checking out your shorts. I will never be for drilling after what I have seen…
Oh and try not to step on one of the crude oil blobs/tar balls on the beach that look just like beached jelly balls.
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Save ours for a last resort or until alternate fuel sources are economically feasible, and go get the massive supplies in Alaska’s remote areas after we deplete the Bakken formation and get congress off their butts to complete the Keystone pipeline.
In the meantime keep buying and storing every bit of foreign oil we can and go with a “cookie Cutter” design on Nuclear Plants across our country.
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Oh and try not to step on one of the crude oil blobs/tar balls on the beach that look just like beached jelly balls.
In the late 1970s we moved to Miami for 2 years, stupid move, came home. You couldn’t walk on the beach anywhere without getting tar balls between your toes.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
The glut of Nat gas is worse. Plus there are now all of these LNG facilities that have been overbuilt. Can’t see any new drilling soon.
Larry…What drilling is near Miami…?
None that I know of. I think the tar is coming up the Gulf Stream from S. America. You didn’t go to the beach without a can of mineral spirits to clean your feet.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
quote:Now it's just e-Coli... They actually issue warnings about swimming with open cuts, sores there now...
Originally posted by Cracker LarryNone that I know of. I think the tar is coming up the Gulf Stream from S. America. You didn’t go to the beach without a can of mineral spirits to clean your feet.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Swamp Worshiper
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Originally posted by Phinquote:
Originally posted by Post Quartermasterquote:
Originally posted by Phin There is no need for that as long as there is a 50 mile buffer as they're proposing. Those areas won't get drilled in to begin with, and they can leave us recreational fishermen alone.
Bump.
Looks like Gov McCrory & Tim Scott are getting their way with the Murkowski bill that removes the 50 mile buffer…latest I can find is that it passed committee.
South Carolina takes a second serious hit in the Murkowski bill. The draft plan by BOEM says no drilling off the SC coast can take place within 50 miles of the shoreline. Murkowski?s bill has no buffer, potentially opening up the drilling area to all federal waters off the four South Atlantic states to just three miles offshore at the state?s water boundary.
From:
http://www.moultrienews.com/article/20150807/MN01/150809793/
Going to give some people a call about this. Was off my radar, so thanks for posting.
http://www.sustainablefishing.org/
www.joinrfa.com
Luke 8:22-25
I spoke with Hamilton from SCCCL about this bill after the meeting Tuesday & he indicated that he doesn’t think it will go anywhere.
It seems Gov. McCrory pushed the elimination of the 50 mile buffer to bring NC into the game for drilling, Scott has voiced support for removal of the buffer as a jobs issue.
Hamilton, S