Permits. What exactly should you have

Anyone know exactly what permits/licenses you should have on your boat when fishing?

I feel like I have all the permits necessary for the type of fishing I do but wouldn’t be surprised to learn there are more I should “probably” have just in case someone wants to keep a shark.

I read the HMFS site and see they want their $20 per year for me to fish for Sharks and whatnot but was wondering about Cobia at the Buoys. Any special permit required for that?

I think this is a valid topic for discussion and could help many people that are little fuzzy on the regulations. Thanks to anyone that responds (with helpful information)

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HMS permit is not a bad idea at all if you fish offshore because you might catch something that is permitted and want to keep it like a yft or mako. You are supposed to have it if targeting billfish, tuna other than blackfin and sharks or anything else listed.
Only need a saltwater license for cobia as a recreational angler.

Learned something new…
So exactly what is NOT considered to be a highly migratory fish??? I thought I was covered with my sc salt license.

What about the recreational angler fishing the nearshore reef and happens into a king mackerel. Are they covered by their Rec license?

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Yes, nothing special required for kings (yet).

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
Small craft surveying and repair

So if I’m chumming, presumably for shark, I need a permit??? What a crock.

because spades and bsb are under the grouper snapper complex, as a guide boat, you need that permit if you are reef fishing for those species

Do we need a permit and a haz-mat license if we need to piss over the gunwale?

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Redfish_matt Posted - 03/22/2013 : 8:38:13 PM Do we need a permit and a haz-mat license if we need to piss over the gunwale?
Only if its long enough to hit the water!! :smiley:

100% agree with SCdiver - if you get checked the first question is: What are you fishing for?
Your Quick answer: The norm, dolphin, tuna , wahoo ~ the response: can I see your HMS permit!! If you don’t have it they will write you a ticket!! Worth the money IMO!!

36 Contender Fisharound
Are We There Yet?

Are dolphin and wahoo on the permitted list?
Last time I was surveyed about what we had caught during the year, they were only interested in tunas and sharks.
I know dolphin and wahoo are migratory fish, but are they permitted?

You don’t need the HMS permit for dolphin or wahoo, but you do for most tuna, sharks and all billfish. The permit is cheap, compared to releasing 150 pounds of prime sushimi :smiley:

See https://hmspermits.noaa.gov/news.asp

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
Small craft surveying and repair

RDW,

No you don’t need a permit for dolphin and wahoo but I guarantee somebody ask what you are fishing for offshore - the response will be dolphin, tuna, wahoo! You say it, You pay it if you don’t have the permit!!

36 Contender Fisharound
Are We There Yet?

Not sure about rec anglers, but charter boats that fish offshore should carry a dolphin/wahoo permit, a grouper/snapper permit, a coastal migratory species permit and a highly migratory species permit (HMS). Also charter boat captains, not rec anglers, should also have a vessel operator permit card. A lawyer to help you understand what you are allowed to fish for, where you can fish, what type of hook you can use and what and how much you can keep would be a good idea too. Of course that is assuming that you will be bottom fishing, trolling in the deep and live baiting anywhere in-between the jetties and the gulf stream.

Captain Jamie Holcombe
Waters Edge Charters
843-209-1895
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Do multiple states and the headache ramps up.
Published booklets can’t be trusted to be current on seasons, limits and areas closed.
Some states require additional stamps for specific fish (ie. snook in FL)
Some states are requiring operator certificates and not just the on-line completed type.
There is also the salt/fresh dividing line - not necessarily a white stripe to make it obvious.
The lack of a local accent doesn’t make it any better either when the blue lights are approaching.
Do your homework, have your boat & gear in order and speak the bare minimum.

OH,don’t forget to mention where you can fish and where you can’t,MPA’s don’t get caught fishing in these either no matter what state you live in as just about every state has them now!!Don’t do this don’t do that is why I sold my boat and now I’m selling my tackle!!OH ya now michael bloomberg NY GESTAPO is funding a $12 million anti-gun campaign, yes he is!!
Guess I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this am so y’all cut me a little slack,don’t forget your permits and be-safe and tight-lines everyone good-luck this year;i have to get back to my taxes!!!

What about keeping bonita for bait? Need a permit for that since they are a type of tuna?

Hms is Fed permit and its not needed for Blackfin tuna or bonita and the like. Nice to have however if you ever luck into a yellow fin or lost Blue fin. On Blue fin you must decide between a commercial or recreational, thats all about which size you can keep. Its the same permit whichever you decide for the other HMS controled species

“Destiny” 35ft
Contender and “Scintilla” 20ft Keywest, Manning SC

Just for the record, a bonita is not a fish, but an Atlantic Bonito is :smiley: But if you say it with a southern drawl it comes out dambonitar either way :smiley:

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(G) HIGHLY MIGRATORY SPECIES In state or federal waters, federal permit required for Highly Migratory Species, excluding Atlantic bonito, little tunny (albacore), and blackfin tuna: 978-281-9370. Prior to removal from vessel, all billfishes, swordfish and bluefin tuna must be reported at NC HMS reporting stations. DMF website for more details.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
Small craft surveying and repair

You actually do NOT need the HMS permit for sharks if you stay in state waters. You only need it if you head out in search of the toothy critters if you travel outside of 3 miles. For the most part though, it’s pretty dumb not to have one… You may decide that you don’t need one and they you are fishing at the jetties and your buddy calls you on the radio and says, “Hey man, get your ass out here to the C-buoy! It’s flat calm and there are cobias and sharks all over!!!” It’s too late to order a permit at that point…

As a recreational (non-charter), you do NOT need the dolphin\wahoo permit. Unfortunately I have been asked by DNR to show my “dolphin wahoo” permit. I told them that I did not need it and they assured me that I did. He had a chat with his superior to determine in the end that I was correct. It helps to know the laws…

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Originally posted by Cracker Larry

Just for the record, a bonita is not a fish, but an Atlantic Bonito is :smiley: But if you say it with a southern drawl it comes out dambonitar either way :smiley:

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(G) HIGHLY MIGRATORY SPECIES In state or federal waters, federal permit required for Highly Migratory Species, excluding Atlantic bonito, little tunny (albacore), and blackfin tuna: 978-281-9370. Prior to removal from vessel, all billfishes, swordfish and bluefin tuna must be reported at NC HMS reporting stations. DMF website for more details.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
Small craft surveying and repair


The local "bonita" is a little tunny... The law above has it incorrect. It's not an "albacore", it's a "false albacore" HUGE difference...