What would you do if you came across a poacher on your property gutting a deer that he had shot on your property?
take a picture, walk away, call DNR.
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Probably help him clean it while I politely explained the property lines. I would not start any confrontation. Mad people with guns can do stupid things and a deer ain’t worth anybody getting shot over.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
^^^^^^^^^^ + call 911 before DNR.
15 years ago… (not to be an internet bully) there my well have been only one side of the story. Now a days, what Flat Bottom said.
I’ve got an acquaintance that shot out the tires of a poacher/thief to keep him there until the law came. He is waiting for his court date and already $12,000 dollars into lawyer bills. He was charged with firing into an occupied vehicle. No court date yet.
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Originally posted by Cracker LarryProbably help him clean it while I politely explained the property lines. I would not start any confrontation. Mad people with guns can do stupid things and a deer ain’t worth anybody getting shot over.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
Would you have kept the backstraps,loins and both back hams?
I sent you a pm. And cracker Larry That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen you post. Call dnr, the sheriffs office, and Start rolling video\taking pictures until they arrived. let them get away with it once and it’ll happen time and time again. Our DNR up here has been great this year, they’ve been cracking down.
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cracker Larry That is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen you post. Call dnr, the sheriffs office,
Thank ya
Where I live is an hour for 911 response and 2 or 3 for DNR. We don’t call 911, we deal with our own problems out here. Any poachers I get are more likely lost than intentionally poaching. And so what anyway, some people need those deer to feed their family. They ain’t my deer to start with, they belong to everybody. It’s always better to make a friend in the woods than an enemy. If you call that dumb, so be it. My land, my rules.
Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
“Ships are the nearest things to dreams that hands have ever made.” -Robert N. Rose
if someone takes an animal “in season” over mr/ms joe blows back 40 b/c he/she is unclear on property lines, does that make them a poacher?
No. That makes him a trespasser.
However, if he clearly knows the prop lines and is on your prop he is a poacher. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law.
Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.
Fred
If your friend had shot the poachers instead of the tires he may have had less problems.
Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.
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Originally posted by heartofthesunif someone takes an animal “in season” over mr/ms joe blows back 40 b/c he/she is unclear on property lines, does that make them a poacher?
As far as I’m concerned it does. If you don’t know the property boundaries stay out. Period. There’s a serious safety concern with trespassing also. You here about people getting shot on “accident” all the time when a bush moves and somebody shoots it. I don’t want these people on my place. A man who trespasses on another mans land is nothing more than a common thief, people work way to hard getting there places ready to hunt to have someone slip in and shoot deer illegally.
Suppose said man, shot the deer and it ran and died on another property:question: If he tracks it and collects it he is a trespasser, but not a poacher. To make him a poacher, someone would have to prove he knew where the property lines were! The old saying that “good fences make good neighbors” isn’t far off the mark!
Easy
If he tracks the deer and knows it went on neighbor’s prop, then he should call prop owner. AND he should leave his gun in the truck…
If you have a gun on my property I assume you are there to shoot me or my deer.
Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.
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Originally posted by Partners-ShipFred
If your friend had shot the poachers instead of the tires he may have had less problems.Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.
Yes, that is probably true and it would have been white on white. Dude had a gun and it would have been an alive person’s word against a dead person with stolen items in his truck and a deer. but what if another one was hiden in the woods and then after seeing his partner get shot he took out the land owner.
It’s easy to arm chair quarterback, but when it comes killing a man over a deer? Times aren’t that bad. Now if same dude was in my house uninvited, he needs to die. simple.
Best to call 911 and take pictures if you can. imo
PS, he did know, he was on posted property:question:
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Originally posted by heartofthesunif someone takes an animal “in season” over mr/ms joe blows back 40 b/c he/she is unclear on property lines, does that make them a poacher?
Yes, and guilty of trespassing. You just stated that someone took game on someone else’s property. Come on dude or dude-et.
To know that a person would hunt an area that they did not know the property lines is ludicrous. I would assume that that person probably is too stupid to even think about bullet trajectory as well.
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To know that a person would hunt an area that they did not know the property lines is ludicrous.
I had a terrible and almost tragic situation a couple of years ago. It was early one Saturday morning and I was sitting on my back porch drinking coffee, listening to some hounds run a deer on my property. Nothing unusual, I like hearing them run.
Then I heard 3 gun shots right behind my house. Close, too close. I figured it was a neighbor, they all have permission to hunt my land, and me theirs. We usually call first, but not always. So I put my pistol in my back pocket and walked out to see if I could help him drag and clean. That’s what we do.
Instead of the neighbor, I encountered a screaming crazy man with a shotgun who fired 2 shots over my head[:0] He had a teenage boy with him. He was screaming “you get your GD dogs and get off of my GD property right now or I’ll blow your f…ing head off!”
I just stood there with my hands up, and they walked up to me and he stuck his shotgun under my chin. Told me again to get off of his land or he would shoot. I said, "easy fellow, take it easy. There is a mistake. First off you are on my property, second, those aren’t my dogs, and third, I know every property owner within 5 miles and you aren’t one.
He poked me again in the throat with his shotgun barrel. I had had enough of this. I reached behind me pulled my 9mm and pointed it right between his eyes. Told him he had 3 choices, he could pull the trigger on his empty shotgun ( I can count to 5), he could put it down and walk away, or he could leave in a body bag. I said please don’t make me shoot you in front of your boy. He made the right choice.
So I dis-armed them both and asked where they thought they were. They told me they had permission from an uncle to hunt his land. I know the uncle they named, and the
Some general advice, don’t ever take the law into your own hands. I hunt a property that is abutted on all sides by development and I regularly deal with poachers and trespassers. The best thing we ever did was enter our property into the DNR program called “Property Watch.”
In the litigious world we live in, all landowners and Leasees need to be very concerned about their liability exposure as a result of people trespassing. You’re just asking for an accident to happen on your land and a lawsuit to be filed against you if not. Take the appropriate precautions. Just imagine some kid is curiously wandering around on your property, and he comes across this amazing ladder up to a deer stand. He say to himself, “Wow, imagine the tree fort possibilities with that.” Next thing you know, he climbs up, and for some reason the stand falls, and the kid is hurt or dies. You better believe that your going to be sued.
my mind is lost at sea…
the ones I caught were driving deer through my land, they had obviously had done it before on my land and on others, used old trucks with fake license tags
I got there to still hunt and found em, they were standing in the bed of their trucks in the field at the edge of the woods waiting on the dogs to drive the deer into the field, they called their buddies on the CB radio and then the craziness started
I was about 24 at the time, went crazy, got their shotguns, unloaded them in the air and then jammed the barrels in the ground a few times filling them with dirt, threw the guns in the truck and told them to leave
talked with DNR and they knew who they were but said if they didn’t catch them in the act there was nothing they could do, this was before cell phones and cell cameras
I used to work for DNR and had on my DNR hat, and had my dad with me, the hat may have saved me from trouble or the fact that these guys knew they could poach with little chance of getting in trouble but an assault would be jail time
Pioneer 197SF
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Originally posted by Partners-ShipWhat would you do if you came across a poacher on your property gutting a deer that he had shot on your property?
Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary.