NO
Let me get this right… let’s start drilling the ledge?!? You have to be kidding me. Lawmakers created MPA’s in those same areas because the habitat is too sensitive and can’t stand fishing pressure and now we are going to drill it instead? Give me a break
I for one am over corporate greed. Ridiculous
“mr keys”
Yesssssssss Drill baby, drilllllllll
“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went.”
Will Rogers
quote:You still reside in the arm pit of the state?
Originally posted by Sasha and AbbyYesssssssss Drill baby, drilllllllll
“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went.”
Will Rogers
I live in South Carolina so my answer is still NO. It isn’t needed now. If sometime in the future supplies run low and we’re paying through the nose importing natural gas then maybe. But now? NO!
“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”, but really, who cares?
Still No. Miles of pipeline running inland would be enough of a reason. You’d have to get the NG from Georgetown or Beaufort or some other small coastal community to major distribution points somehow. That’s a whole lot of land being bought up or annexed. That’s after you’ve decided to put up drilling platforms in the ocean. I’m in Lexington.
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Thanks to everyone who participated. This wasn’t meant to be a debate, or to air my thoughts on the issue, but considering all the PMs, texts and comments beyond the poll, I will let you know my thoughts and then we’ll close this out.
In my district, 60% of the people support offshore exploration (Horry, Gtown and a small piece of CHS). In Charleston County, 39% support exploration. Charleston is saturated with industrial jobs, high housing costs, and terrible traffic congestion. Horry and Gtown haven’t yet caught those trends as badly as CHS, but I think it’s coming in the next decade. The people in Charleston are fed up with this stuff and their responses, and yours are really no surprise and quite consistent. Environmental concerns or impacts on fishing make up a smaller percentage of the concern.
As for my thoughts: Financially, it makes no sense to drill off SC right now. Scientists think the formations off our coasts are primarily Natural Gas, and that we don’t have much in terms of oil. We have approximately 50 years of Natural Gas reserves already. So why would a company spend 100 times the cost to drill a gas well in the Atlantic, as compared to on-land, when we already 50 years of reserves? The answer is that they wouldn’t. So why have the environmental groups been stirring the pot on this? I believe it’s financially motivated. They fundraise on opposition.
I do believe we need to know what’s beneath the waves. I submit to you that it’s simply good leadership to know what we have in case we do need it sometime in the next 50 years. It traditionally takes 10 years from the time a lease is granted to the time the gas is tapped offshore, so we may as well know what we have off our coast. This is especially true considering the science almost universally shows that it’s safe. If you’re interested in reading the latest study from Dunlop, it’s here: http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1869/20171901
Thank you again for participating and have a Merry Christmas.
Im glad you made the comment about the 10 years to start tapping into the resource. That’s an important fact. Yes, we may have 50 years of NG reserved, but that’s at today’s consumption rate. We are beginning to rely on NG more and more, primarily dealing with power generation plants. another thing to take into consideration, we have a few nuclear power plants in this area that supply a decent amount of the power we consume. with the 2 vc summer plants not getting built, Vogtle plants in georgia not looking promising, and the current nuclear plants are at life’s end, we are going to be more reliant on NG than ever before.
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quote:
Originally posted by TheMechanicIm glad you made the comment about the 10 years to start tapping into the resource. That’s an important fact. Yes, we may have 50 years of NG reserved, but that’s at today’s consumption rate. We are beginning to rely on NG more and more, primarily dealing with power generation plants. another thing to take into consideration, we have a few nuclear power plants in this area that supply a decent amount of the power we consume. with the 2 vc summer plants not getting built, Vogtle plants in georgia not looking promising, and the current nuclear plants are at life’s end, we are going to be more reliant on NG than ever before.
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Yes sir. That’s correct. With the nuclear fiasco, we will be more and more reliant upon NG. In fact, SCANA’s offer to the General Assembly included a 600 MW Natural Gas Plant.
Stephen Goldfinch
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yep, 600MW NG to replace 2000MW of nuclear power, seems fair to me.
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Old Town stern with 7.5 johnson
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Originally posted by yellabirdSo why have the environmental groups been stirring the pot on this? I believe it’s financially motivated. They fundraise on opposition.
I don’t disagree that some environmental groups (and really any special interest) pumps up the outrage to fundraise, but I think its a bit too reductive to say this.
It is safe to say that any drilling or underground exploration presents at least SOME avoidable risk to the environment, and if that exploration/drilling is also in pursuit of continued carbon/fossil fuel extraction and consumption that it is not necessarily a risk I would dismiss out of hand as for the greater good.
Not trying to start the climate change war in this thread, just saying that there is room for some genuine concerns outside of fundraising on this topic.
Missed this discussion.
Have any of you actually any experience fishing or diving under oil rigs (or natural gas)?
I have.
I fished and dove under oil rigs from Huntington Beach CA to Santa Barbara, CA.
Marine life?
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When there is no bottom structure for smaller critters in the food chain to fasten themselves to (like in the sandy bottom areas all over the SC coast) you get NO marine life. If you did, why are there subway cars, concrete pieces, barges, etc. sunk so often off of our coast.
Diving and fishing near or under oil rigs you will find scallops the size of dinner plates, all types of marine growth on the rigs attracting smaller critters like sea weeds, etc. Then fish start arriving to feed on these critters. Then bigger fish start feeding on the smaller critters. In CA, there is no gulf stream to bring pelagic species into the area. Nevertheless, in CA, you want salmon? Yellowtail? Salmon? Steelhead? Yellowfin tuna?
Fish (or better yet) dive under an oil rig.
My vote is Yes, yes yes.
illigitimi non-carborundum . . .
quote:
Originally posted by Bottom ScratcherMissed this discussion.
Have any of you actually any experience fishing or diving under oil rigs (or natural gas)?
I have.
I fished and dove under oil rigs from Huntington Beach CA to Santa Barbara, CA.
Marine life?
INCREDIBLE.</font id=“size2”>
When there is no bottom structure for smaller critters in the food chain to fasten themselves to (like in the sandy bottom areas all over the SC coast) you get NO marine life. If you did, why are there subway cars, concrete pieces, barges, etc. sunk so often off of our coast.
Diving and fishing near or under oil rigs you will find scallops the size of dinner plates, all types of marine growth on the rigs attracting smaller critters like sea weeds, etc. Then fish start arriving to feed on these critters. Then bigger fish start feeding on the smaller critters. In CA, there is no gulf stream to bring pelagic species into the area. Nevertheless, in CA, you want salmon? Yellowtail? Salmon? Steelhead? Yellowfin tuna?
Fish (or better yet) dive under an oil rig.
My vote is Yes, yes yes.
illigitimi non-carborundum . . .
I have 4000 waypoints (live bottom) off of SC. Is that enough for your food chain?
A few of those “thousands” of SC’s exciting bottom structures:
Yep, looks like great marine life here - oh well, there are “thousands” of others . . .
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illigitimi non-carborundum . . .
YES
quote:
Originally posted by Bottom ScratcherA few of those “thousands” of SC’s exciting bottom structures:
Yep, looks like great marine life here - oh well, there are “thousands” of others . . .
illigitimi non-carborundum . . .
That is how I want to be “buried”.
“You don’t have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body.” - C.S. Lewis
IF you put enough time in you dont need man made reefs we have plenty of bottom that no chart will show or ant gps charts.
quote:I don't fish artificial reefs. They are not "live bottom" as I mentioned previously.
Originally posted by Bottom ScratcherA few of those “thousands” of SC’s exciting bottom structures:
Yep, looks like great marine life here - oh well, there are “thousands” of others . . .
illigitimi non-carborundum . . .