RBF, Might want to check again on what you believe an animate object is. It doesn’t have to be a “living organism.” Sure, it can be but it doesn’t have to be. Technically speaking, of course. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/animate
It has nothing to do with saving face. It’s about factual information. Nice try though.
As far as your “cook off” comment; aside from a loaded firearm being in a fire, the only time you’re going to have a chance at a cook off is going to be after long periods of sustained rapid fire and even then a cook off is not eminent. A firearm left alone on a sun drenched deck or surface will not cook off. If they did, every vehicle mounted weapon in our military’s arsenal currently deployed in the deserts of the middle east and Africa would “cook off” all the time. A firearms has to be handled in a certain manner to ever have a chance to experience a cook off so the “issue,” as you called it, still requires an outside stimuli or manipulation.
Please show me where I have ever “argued” anything about disarming anybody of anything. I’ll wait…
Troutguy, how are the wrongful deaths that occur within the medical and motor vehicle industries “hardly a comparison” to the wrongful deaths that occur within the firearms industry? They’re all preventable and typically occur because of human decisions/interaction. Are you using the “largely accepted” as grounds to sever the comparison since firearms are not “largely accepted” by some in this country? Even if the medical field and automobiles themselves are “becoming safer,” they are still responsible for more wrongful deaths than firearms. That is an indisputable fact. I don’t think every time I step outside or go to dinner with my family that we may be gunned down but, as I strap on my concealed weapon, I am prepared and my situational awareness level is hightened. That is no different than keeping my head on a swivel when I’m driving with my family in my vehicle. I’m always paying attention to those around me and do whatever I can to keep
I’m bowing out of the debate. I’ve already mentioned above our fundamental differences in how we view this topic. If someone driving down the road hydroplanes causing a multi car accident resulting in deaths, and you think that’s comparable to people being shot and killed at a concert, then our minds just simply work differently.
RBF, Might want to check again on what you believe an animate object is. It doesn’t have to be a “living organism.” Sure, it can be but it doesn’t have to be. Technically speaking, of course. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/animate
It has nothing to do with saving face. It’s about factual information. Nice try though.
As far as your “cook off” comment; aside from a loaded firearm being in a fire, the only time you’re going to have a chance at a cook off is going to be after long periods of sustained rapid fire and even then a cook off is not eminent. A firearm left alone on a sun drenched deck or surface will not cook off. If they did, every vehicle mounted weapon in our military’s arsenal currently deployed in the deserts of the middle east and Africa would “cook off” all the time. A firearms has to be handled in a certain manner to ever have a chance to experience a cook off so the “issue,” as you called it, still requires an outside stimuli or manipulation.
Please show me where I have ever “argued” anything about disarming anybody of anything. I’ll wait…
Troutguy, how are the wrongful deaths that occur within the medical and motor vehicle industries “hardly a comparison” to the wrongful deaths that occur within the firearms industry? They’re all preventable and typically occur because of human decisions/interaction. Are you using the “largely accepted” as grounds to sever the comparison since firearms are not “largely accepted” by some in this country? Even if the medical field and automobiles themselves are “becoming safer,” they are still responsible for more wrongful deaths than firearms. That is an indisputable fact. I don’t think every time I step outside or go to dinner with my family that we may be gunned down but, as I strap on my concealed weapon, I am prepared and my situational awareness level is hightened. That is no
Who said hydroplaning? We are talking texting and driving drinking and driving. Or rather I am. Your widely accepted point is a straw man argument. Just because you are scared of guns doesn’t mean that guns in our society has not been widely accepted since 1776.
Trout would you be willing to give up your cell phone if the country gave up there guns? Would you be willing to ban alcohol?
They account for over 45 deaths a day. Non gang related deaths. 6 a day. You are correct. These things are getting way to frequent. But down that beer and cell phone NOW!
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
That is a very good observation and statement.
Way back when texting first started there were already strong laws being made to stop anyone from texting and driving. BUT, if they were indeed made into law then everyone would have to abide by them. It boils down to inconvenience for the law makers Too. It would mean they could no longer text and drive. Guns… it fits a political agenda. No texting and Driving which needs to be implemented and actually more dangerous than guns will never IMO be stopped because it does not fit a political agenda.
“There is no excuse for this kind of carnage. Prayers to all involved and a speedy recovery for all injured.”
This is Fred67’s post starting this. I think everyone should go back to the to the original thought of this thread.
I have thought, several times, about putting in my 2 cents worth on the topic that has developed. I’ve learned, from being on this site for several years, that my opinion wouldn’t matter anyway. There will always be someone with an opposing view, ready to tell me how wrong I am. I’m ok with that. Just like my real life, outside of the world wide web, I pretty much keep my thoughts and beliefs to myself. By the way, I don’t own a gun. Not by choice, but by circumstance. My wife wants a gun, but I’m afraid she’ll shoot me with it.
How 'bout we get back to the original topic. The victims & families.
Bob Van Gundy
803-727-4069
Custom Aluminum Fabrication
“There is no excuse for this kind of carnage. Prayers to all involved and a speedy recovery for all injured.”
This is Fred67’s post starting this. I think everyone should go back to the to the original thought of this thread.
I have thought, several times, about putting in my 2 cents worth on the topic that has developed. I’ve learned, from being on this site for several years, that my opinion wouldn’t matter anyway. There will always be someone with an opposing view, ready to tell me how wrong I am. I’m ok with that. Just like my real life, outside of the world wide web, I pretty much keep my thoughts and beliefs to myself. By the way, I don’t own a gun. Not by choice, but by circumstance. My wife wants a gun, but I’m afraid she’ll shoot me with it.
How 'bout we get back to the original topic. The victims & families.
Bob Van Gundy
803-727-4069
Custom Aluminum Fabrication
Your are right Happy Bob. Don’t think we have had too many threads that don’t get side tracked… Like RBF says… Barber talk.
Would of, Should of, Could of… Bottom line it happened and prayers are still needed. God bless all the victims and families involved in this tragedy and give them strength to carry on. Amen. Oh, and keep a watchful eye on Happy Bob’s wife.
Who said hydroplaning? We are talking texting and driving drinking and driving. Or rather I am. Your widely accepted point is a straw man argument. Just because you are scared of guns doesn’t mean that guns in our society has not been widely accepted since 1776.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
Good point. Just because you are scared of the LGBT community doesn’t mean they won’t continue to become more accepted.
“The hard truth is that the country is a breeding ground for evil and they don’t want to admit it. All this let genders be neutral…” - Geronimo
If only we could get rid of them we’d be so much better off!!!
RBF, Might want to check again on what you believe an animate object is. It doesn’t have to be a “living organism.” Sure, it can be but it doesn’t have to be. Technically speaking, of course. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/animate
It has nothing to do with saving face. It’s about factual information. Nice try though.
As far as your “cook off” comment; aside from a loaded firearm being in a fire, the only time you’re going to have a chance at a cook off is going to be after long periods of sustained rapid fire and even then a cook off is not eminent. A firearm left alone on a sun drenched deck or surface will not cook off. If they did, every vehicle mounted weapon in our military’s arsenal currently deployed in the deserts of the middle east and Africa would “cook off” all the time. A firearms has to be handled in a certain manner to ever have a chance to experience a cook off so the “issue,” as you called it, still requires an outside stimuli or manipulation.
Please show me where I have ever “argued” anything about disarming anybody of anything. I’ll wait…
Troutguy, how are the wrongful deaths that occur within the medical and motor vehicle industries “hardly a comparison” to the wrongful deaths that occur within the firearms industry? They’re all preventable and typically occur because of human decisions/interaction. Are you using the “largely accepted” as grounds to sever the comparison since firearms are not “largely accepted” by some in this country? Even if the medical field and automobiles themselves are “becoming safer,” they are still responsible for more wrongful deaths than firearms. That is an indisputable fact. I don’t think every time I step outs
RBF, Might want to check again on what you believe an animate object is. It doesn’t have to be a “living organism.” Sure, it can be but it doesn’t have to be. Technically speaking, of course. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/animate
It has nothing to do with saving face. It’s about factual information. Nice try though.
As far as your “cook off” comment; aside from a loaded firearm being in a fire, the only time you’re going to have a chance at a cook off is going to be after long periods of sustained rapid fire and even then a cook off is not eminent. A firearm left alone on a sun drenched deck or surface will not cook off. If they did, every vehicle mounted weapon in our military’s arsenal currently deployed in the deserts of the middle east and Africa would “cook off” all the time. A firearms has to be handled in a certain manner to ever have a chance to experience a cook off so the “issue,” as you called it, still requires an outside stimuli or manipulation.
Please show me where I have ever “argued” anything about disarming anybody of anything. I’ll wait…
Troutguy, how are the wrongful deaths that occur within the medical and motor vehicle industries “hardly a comparison” to the wrongful deaths that occur within the firearms industry? They’re all preventable and typically occur because of human decisions/interaction. Are you using the “largely accepted” as grounds to sever the comparison since firearms are not “largely accepted” by some in this country? Even if the medical field and automobiles
“There is no excuse for this kind of carnage. Prayers to all involved and a speedy recovery for all injured.”
This is Fred67’s post starting this. I think everyone should go back to the to the original thought of this thread.
I have thought, several times, about putting in my 2 cents worth on the topic that has developed. I’ve learned, from being on this site for several years, that my opinion wouldn’t matter anyway. There will always be someone with an opposing view, ready to tell me how wrong I am. I’m ok with that. Just like my real life, outside of the world wide web, I pretty much keep my thoughts and beliefs to myself. By the way, I don’t own a gun. Not by choice, but by circumstance. My wife wants a gun, but I’m afraid she’ll shoot me with it.
How 'bout we get back to the original topic. The victims & families.
Bob Van Gundy
803-727-4069
Custom Aluminum Fabrication
Your are right Happy Bob. Don’t think we have had too many threads that don’t get side tracked… Like RBF says… Barber talk.
Would of, Should of, Could of… Bottom line it happened and prayers are still needed. God bless all the victims and families involved in this tragedy and give them strength to carry on. Amen. Oh, and keep a watchful eye on Happy Bob’s wife.
I agree with your statements Fred… Also, technically it’s called Barbershop talk…
Who said hydroplaning? We are talking texting and driving drinking and driving. Or rather I am. Your widely accepted point is a straw man argument. Just because you are scared of guns doesn’t mean that guns in our society has not been widely accepted since 1776.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
Good point. Just because you are scared of the LGBT community doesn’t mean they won’t continue to become more accepted.
“The hard truth is that the country is a breeding ground for evil and they don’t want to admit it. All this let genders be neutral…” - Geronimo
If only we could get rid of them we’d be so much better off!!!
There is a big difference between being attracted to the same sex and cutting your pecker off. Never said I was against the LGBTQ community.
Who said hydroplaning? We are talking texting and driving drinking and driving. Or rather I am. Your widely accepted point is a straw man argument. Just because you are scared of guns doesn’t mean that guns in our society has not been widely accepted since 1776.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
Good point. Just because you are scared of the LGBT community doesn’t mean they won’t continue to become more accepted.
“The hard truth is that the country is a breeding ground for evil and they don’t want to admit it. All this let genders be neutral…” - Geronimo
If only we could get rid of them we’d be so much better off!!!
There is a big difference between being attracted to the same sex and cutting your pecker off. Never said I was against the LGBTQ community.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
I’m not accusing you of saying you were against the LGBTQ community. I’m accusing you of equating the LGBTQ community with the “evils” that cause such tragic events in our country like the Las Vegas shooting.
Reading through your comments on this thread I bet that you’re not commonly called out on ignorant comments like the one you made a few days ago. You have the benefit of safety in numbers on this site. Someone called yo
Nope, I’ve explained my view on the subject you keep bringing up more than I should.
I’m against people who deny the gender of their maker. Against homosexuals that have premarital sex and against gay marriage. Also against anything that supports children with any of the former as well as pedophiles. That was my statement plain and clear. Feel free to twist around and find the ignorance in any of the above. As well as the agnostic society that you don’t want to attack me on also.
Nope, I’ve explained my view on the subject you keep bringing up more than I should.
I’m against people who deny the gender of their maker. Against homosexuals that have premarital sex and against gay marriage. Also against anything that supports children with any of the former as well as pedophiles. That was my statement plain and clear. Feel free to twist around and find the ignorance in any of the above. As well as the agnostic society that you don’t want to attack me on also.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
I guess I just can’t help myself. Do you know what the letters LGBTQ stand for? If so, can you please explain why you’re talking about premarital sex and pedophiles? I’m going to make a wild comment here, but I bet many of the people you know as good heterosexual Christian folks have had premarital sex. I’d also be willing to bet that after doing a quick unbiased search of the internet involving recent legal cases with pedophilia, you would find the accused was not part of the LGBTQ community. Again you’re baselessly associating them with evils that have nothing to do with what this thread is debating. Keep trying though.
I’ll bite on you’re agnostic comment that I’m scared to attack you on. I’ll even make it nice and simple for you. Would our country be better off if more people who are atheists, agnostics, or follow some other religion instead followed Christianity? Simple enough for a yes or no if you so desire.
