Limits are most likely going from 3 to 2 per person and no change in the slot. Also 6 per boat per day is on the table.
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Originally posted by RADDADDYLimits are most likely going from 3 to 2 per person and no change in the slot. Also 6 per boat per day is on the table.
That’s right, meaning anyone with a boat and 2 other anglers can kill 42 per week.
ITG, that is extremely unrealistic. How many anglers fish 7 days a week? I know tournament anglers and guides who fish 4-5 days a week on average, but your normal recreational angler is not the cause of the juvenile redfish decline. There is much more to the equation.
I would venture to say the average angler dosn’t get to fish 52 days a year! I’m retired 10 years and have only beat 100 days once!
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Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by RADDADDYLimits are most likely going from 3 to 2 per person and no change in the slot. Also 6 per boat per day is on the table.
That’s right, meaning anyone with a boat and 2 other anglers can kill 42 per week.
Mathematically, yes. Realistically, no.
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Originally posted by bangstickquote:
Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by RADDADDYLimits are most likely going from 3 to 2 per person and no change in the slot. Also 6 per boat per day is on the table.
That’s right, meaning anyone with a boat and 2 other anglers can kill 42 per week.
Mathematically, yes. Realistically, no.
“…be a man and PM me.”
So how is setting the limit so high people can’t even reach it helping preserve the fishery?
No one said it couldnt be reached. Most people dont, whether by choice or not.
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Originally posted by 7csNo one said it couldnt be reached. Most people dont, whether by choice or not.
So how does this help?
Because the number killed would be higher (63 versus 42) if the limit was still 3 fish for those three make believe anglers who, in your world, fish every single day of the week and limit out every time they go fishing.
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Originally posted by bangstickBecause the number killed would be higher (63 versus 42) if the limit was still 3 fish for those three make believe anglers who, in your world, fish every single day of the week and limit out every time they go fishing.
“…be a man and PM me.”
No need to be rude.
Reasonably I do think there are people are killing around 10-15 a week. It just seems hypocritical to suggest someone else who goes once every 2 weeks should only be able to keep 2, when your killing 10-15 a week. I think a more fair and conservative limit would be per week/month.
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Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by bangstickBecause the number killed would be higher (63 versus 42) if the limit was still 3 fish for those three make believe anglers who, in your world, fish every single day of the week and limit out every time they go fishing.
“…be a man and PM me.”
No need to be rude.
Reasonably I do think there are people are killing around 10-15 a week. It just seems hypocritical to suggest someone else who goes once every 2 weeks should only be able to keep 2, when your killing 10-15 a week. I think a more fair and conservative limit would be per week/month.
So, the guy that goes once every 2 weeks can keep 20-30 on 1 trip versus the guy that goes 7 days a week can only keep 10-15 per week?
How could DNR enforce this???
How many times can I go out in a week and tell DNR this is my first trip week and tell them again the next day???
Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
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Originally posted by RADDADDYITG, that is extremely unrealistic. How many anglers fish 7 days a week? I know tournament anglers and guides who fish 4-5 days a week on average, but your normal recreational angler is not the cause of the juvenile redfish decline. There is much more to the equation.
Yes, there is much more to the equation. Overfishing, pollution, population increase, poaching, etc.
It’s easy to blame the fisherman as the culprit, but as the population increases, we need more apartments, houses built on water, there’s a percentage of those persons that do fish, pollution increase, more fertilizer om lawns, run-off and so forth.
Poaching does exist. The finger is pointed at us, the fisherman.
Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
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Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by bangstickBecause the number killed would be higher (63 versus 42) if the limit was still 3 fish for those three make believe anglers who, in your world, fish every single day of the week and limit out every time they go fishing.
“…be a man and PM me.”
No need to be rude.
Reasonably I do think there are people are killing around 10-15 a week. It just seems hypocritical to suggest someone else who goes once every 2 weeks should only be able to keep 2, when your killing 10-15 a week. I think a more fair and conservative limit would be per week/month.
First, how was I rude? I did nothing but use your fantasy-based analytics on you.
Second, wildlife/resource management isn’t and shouldn’t be about “fair.” I never hear guys on the coast complaining about people like me getting to catch/kill more crappie than them because I live closer to the lake. By your own summation, if you want the opportunity to catch/kill as many redfish as those that live at the coast and fish more frequently, move to the coast. Me and many others on here drag our boats considerably further than you to catch redfish but you don’t hear any of us crying about what’s “fair” and what’s not. Quit putting your wants before the needs of the resource
“…be a man and PM me.”
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Originally posted by bangstickquote:
Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by bangstickBecause the number killed would be higher (63 versus 42) if the limit was still 3 fish for those three make believe anglers who, in your world, fish every single day of the week and limit out every time they go fishing.
“…be a man and PM me.”
No need to be rude.
Reasonably I do think there are people are killing around 10-15 a week. It just seems hypocritical to suggest someone else who goes once every 2 weeks should only be able to keep 2, when your killing 10-15 a week. I think a more fair and conservative limit would be per week/month.
First, how was I rude? I did nothing but use your fantasy-based analytics on you.
Second, wildlife/resource management isn’t and shouldn’t be about “fair.” I never hear guys on the coast complaining about people like me getting to catch/kill more crappie than them because I live closer to the lake. By your own summation, if you want the opportunity to catch/kill as many redfish as those that live at the coast and fish more frequently, move to the coast. Me and many others on here drag our boats considerably further than you to catch redfish but you don’t hear any of us crying about what’s “fair” and what’s not. Quit putting your wants before the needs of the resource
“…be a man and PM me.”
I’m not sure how I’m put
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Originally posted by izzydonequote:
Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by bangstickBecause the number killed would be higher (63 versus 42) if the limit was still 3 fish for those three make believe anglers who, in your world, fish every single day of the week and limit out every time they go fishing.
“…be a man and PM me.”
No need to be rude.
Reasonably I do think there are people are killing around 10-15 a week. It just seems hypocritical to suggest someone else who goes once every 2 weeks should only be able to keep 2, when your killing 10-15 a week. I think a more fair and conservative limit would be per week/month.
So, the guy that goes once every 2 weeks can keep 20-30 on 1 trip versus the guy that goes 7 days a week can only keep 10-15 per week?
How could DNR enforce this???
How many times can I go out in a week and tell DNR this is my first trip week and tell them again the next day???
Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
I wouldn’t want the numbers to be that high but essentially yes. I don’t think it’s that crazy of an ides. Oysters/Clams can only be harvested 2 days per 7 day period. Other resources in places are managed with tags or annual catch limits. And let’s be honest, how often are people actually checked by DNR to start with. But mo
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Originally posted by izzydonequote:
Originally posted by RADDADDYITG, that is extremely unrealistic. How many anglers fish 7 days a week? I know tournament anglers and guides who fish 4-5 days a week on average, but your normal recreational angler is not the cause of the juvenile redfish decline. There is much more to the equation.
Yes, there is much more to the equation. Overfishing, pollution, population increase, poaching, etc.
It’s easy to blame the fisherman as the culprit, but as the population increases, we need more apartments, houses built on water, there’s a percentage of those persons that do fish, pollution increase, more fertilizer om lawns, run-off and so forth.
Poaching does exist. The finger is pointed at us, the fisherman.Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
Although I would LOVE to change those other factors, I’m not sure they are going to get much better anytime soon.
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Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by izzydonequote:
Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by bangstickBecause the number killed would be higher (63 versus 42) if the limit was still 3 fish for those three make believe anglers who, in your world, fish every single day of the week and limit out every time they go fishing.
“…be a man and PM me.”
No need to be rude.
Reasonably I do think there are people are killing around 10-15 a week. It just seems hypocritical to suggest someone else who goes once every 2 weeks should only be able to keep 2, when your killing 10-15 a week. I think a more fair and conservative limit would be per week/month.
So, the guy that goes once every 2 weeks can keep 20-30 on 1 trip versus the guy that goes 7 days a week can only keep 10-15 per week?
How could DNR enforce this???
How many times can I go out in a week and tell DNR this is my first trip week and tell them again the next day???
Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
I wouldn’t want the numbers to be that high but essentially yes. I don’t think it’s that crazy of an ides. Oysters/Clams can only be harvested 2 days per 7 d
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Originally posted by in the grassquote:
Originally posted by izzydonequote:
Originally posted by RADDADDYITG, that is extremely unrealistic. How many anglers fish 7 days a week? I know tournament anglers and guides who fish 4-5 days a week on average, but your normal recreational angler is not the cause of the juvenile redfish decline. There is much more to the equation.
Yes, there is much more to the equation. Overfishing, pollution, population increase, poaching, etc.
It’s easy to blame the fisherman as the culprit, but as the population increases, we need more apartments, houses built on water, there’s a percentage of those persons that do fish, pollution increase, more fertilizer om lawns, run-off and so forth.
Poaching does exist. The finger is pointed at us, the fisherman.Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
Although I would LOVE to change those other factors, I’m not sure they are going to get much better anytime soon.
Those factors won’t change. Way too much money on the table. Take the fisherman out of the equation, makes it look like somethings being done.
Ya know, it must be nice living in Neverneverland. Remind me to come visit you, when I need a break from reality.
Just last year alone, I was checked by DNR multiple times. Each time, an officer was set up by the ramp at Remley’s and each time, he made it a point to make contact with each and every boat coming out.
The basis of your argument was it’s not “fair” that the guys on the coast get to catch more redfish than you because you have to drive “X” amount of miles to fish for them and that’s the reason the limit should be lowered. That is not based on the management needs of the resource. That’s based on you thinking it’s not “fair” the coastal locals get to get after the redfish more than you do. Given your comments, I bet you’d be singing a different tune if you lived at the coast and that again is more about your wants than the resource’s needs.
Here’s a thought…How about you let the fisheries biologists and the other trusted sources that spend hundreds of days on the water that the DNR reaches out to for information make the decisions that are best for this particular resource and you simply sit back and try to enjoy each and every chance you get to get on the water and pursue said resource.
I truly feel sorry for guys like you that base the quality of the fishing experience on how many fish you catch/kill.
“…be a man and PM me.”
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Originally posted by bangstickJust last year alone, I was checked by DNR multiple times. Each time, an officer was set up by the ramp at Remley’s and each time, he made it a point to make contact with each and every boat coming out.
The basis of your argument was it’s not “fair” that the guys on the coast get to catch more redfish than you because you have to drive “X” amount of miles to fish for them and that’s the reason the limit should be lowered. That is not based on the management needs of the resource. That’s based on you thinking it’s not “fair” the coastal locals get to get after the redfish more than you do. Given your comments, I bet you’d be singing a different tune if you lived at the coast and that again is more about your wants than the resource’s needs.
Here’s a thought…How about you let the fisheries biologists and the other trusted sources that spend hundreds of days on the water that the DNR reaches out to for information make the decisions that are best for this particular resource and you simply sit back and try to enjoy each and every chance you get to get on the water and pursue said resource.
I truly feel sorry for guys like you that base the quality of the fishing experience on how many fish you catch/kill.
“…be a man and PM me.”
I’m just trying to come up with ways to protect the fishery for everyone and not make regulations suited specifically for the charter industry.
FYI - I live a block from saltwater and eat fresh seafood year around.