Every fish that is released dies.
How exactly could you make targeting breeder reds illegal? For those folks that go to the Grillage and areas like that and are simply throwing cut/live bait and soaking it for whatever bites, would you say they are in violation (if such a law existed) if they caught a breeder red?
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Originally posted by bangstickHow exactly could you make targeting breeder reds illegal? For those folks that go to the Grillage and areas like that and are simply throwing cut/live bait and soaking it for whatever bites, would you say they are in violation (if such a law existed) if they caught a breeder red?
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It would be kind of like using a J hook or a circle hook. You would have to hope people follow the rules or get a lot larger DNR presence on the water.
DNR. “What you fishing for with that J hook?” Fisherman " Whiting, sir."
Same… “you targeting Big Spot tail?” / “Oh, no sir.”
Ok. Close off fishing grounds where breeder reds hang out. Like they do off shore for certain species that are depleting. If you’re fishing the grillage without fiddlers or cut shrimp. You’re Targetting Breeders. Same with fishing the channel.
What if someone wants to target sharks or go after tarpon? Those people probably won’t be using fiddlers and/or cut shrimp.
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Someone’s obviously trolling
If you wanna catch sharks and tarpon you must fish the upper half of the water column. No bottom fishing for them. #GetNmoreEggs2Drop
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Originally posted by 40inchredsSomeone’s obviously trolling
Obviously, but sometimes it’s fun to see who blinks first. 
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Originally posted by ripnlipsIf you wanna catch sharks and tarpon you must fish the upper half of the water column. No bottom fishing for them. #GetNmoreEggs2Drop
Redfish aren’t just bottom feeders and sharks and tarpon don’t just feed in the upper half of the water column. They feed in all parts of the water column.
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Lol. You’re right. I’m blinking. However, the reason I learned to fish was to provide meat for my family. Not everyone can afford the same groceries. My mom lives off 40 bucks a week for food. I was her go to child for getting food out dumpsters behind Food Lion growing up. So, to keep me out the dumpster. I learned to catch all seafood so fast I can use a Coleman cooler.
In addition, let’s increase creel limits to how many people you claim on your taxes. Then, I can take less trips to stock my freezer.
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Originally posted by bangstickhttp://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess122_2017-2018/prever/933_20180125.htm
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You can still kill 42 per week, seems kind of high if there is really a problem. If red fish numbers are really down, why not make the proposed boat limit of 6 per day, 6 per week instead?
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Exactly
I’ve heard a few captains say they are not seeing as many reds on the flats, but honestly who is actually not catching any? Dang things are pretty much a guarantee. As to not many on the flats, I was wondering about weather. Warmer water wouldn’t put them there, but this latest cold spell just might?
Conservation is a good thing if all the proper science is done and not speculation from a few localized captains not catching them where they usually do. Could it be that after so many charters clients are fishing the same spots and obliterating the “honey holes”? I can promise anyone here that if you put me in a boat with some live shrimp and mud minnows I’ll catch you a few reds.
Just think of all the growth on our coast and the extra fishing pressure. Thing is most of the fishing pressure are on a few select spots. There are still many prime “hidden” holes. My son in law and his friend just caught 40 and released 38 reds not far from the Dawhoo bridge in less than 30 min.
What I think is all the catch and release guys want to be able to have a stellar time, every time. Not gonna happen. I take this to Fresh water bass fishing. some of those fish need to be eaten.
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Originally posted by bcookfishI’ve heard a few captains say they are not seeing as many reds on the flats, but honestly who is actually not catching any? Dang things are pretty much a guarantee. As to not many on the flats, I was wondering about weather. Warmer water wouldn’t put them there, but this latest cold spell just might?
Conservation is a good thing if all the proper science is done and not speculation from a few localized captains not catching them where they usually do. Could it be that after so many charters clients are fishing the same spots and obliterating the “honey holes”? I can promise anyone here that if you put me in a boat with some live shrimp and mud minnows I’ll catch you a few reds.
Just think of all the growth on our coast and the extra fishing pressure. Thing is most of the fishing pressure are on a few select spots. There are still many prime “hidden” holes. My son in law and his friend just caught 40 and released 38 reds not far from the Dawhoo bridge in less than 30 min.
What I think is all the catch and release guys want to be able to have a stellar time, every time. Not gonna happen. I take this to Fresh water bass fishing. some of those fish need to be eaten.
I monitor over 500 flats from Georgetown to Calibogue Sound each year when scouting for tournaments, and they live there year round. The results are pretty much the same no matter where you fish. Juvenile redfish populations are WAY down especially in areas that are not stocked yearly. Of course you can catch SOME reds now as they are as tightly grouped as they get during the year. 30-40 on ONE flat was normal and nothing special. Within site of Wadmalaw Island, populations are down about 90%, and yes I do keep a few 15-18 inch fish each year to eat as fishing pressure is not t
Like every source is saying the numbers are down. Just because you had a good day or know a good spot does not speak for the population as a whole. In my opinion our entire fishery is down. Less whiting, less croakers, less spots, less perch, less rays, less crabs, less shrimp, less mullets, and the trend continues up the food chain. Reds are probably easier to catch because of less food sources.
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Originally posted by 40inchredsLike every source is saying the numbers are down. Just because you had a good day or know a good spot does not speak for the population as a whole.
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Too many fishermen (applies to hunters too) look at things from a micro perspective and that is NOT a relevant source of information when it comes to the management of the resource. It must be approached with a macro view to truly encompass the resources’ management needs.
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Originally posted by 40inchredsLike every source is saying the numbers are down. Just because you had a good day or know a good spot does not speak for the population as a whole.
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Too many fishermen (applies to hunters too) look at things from a micro perspective and that is NOT a relevant source of information when it comes to the management of the resource. It must be approached with a macro view to truly encompass the resources’ management needs.
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I would agree numbers are down.
I would also predict the numbers will stay down or get worst if people are still allowed to kill 42 per week.