quote:I propose any over slot redfish must not be taken out of the water. Meaning, don't target them.
I have literally only “targeted” over-slot redfish once, looking for a big bull to see what it was like to catch one. I can honestly say that when I was more actively fishing, I caught way more over-slot fish that under-slot. The second biggest red I ever caught was kayak fishing behind Sullivan’s Island. It was a fun ride but, I wasn’t targeting him, just trying to catch something.
“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”, but really, who cares?
As always its all about the money! A real fisherman would not gripe at doubleing the licence fee. The idiots we eleected to run this state th ink that an increse will hurt the tourisom. and realy don’t give rats A about the home boys! It take money to add feet on the ground not to mention, truck, boats, 4 wheelers. The wildlife commision should have more say in the running of this states resorces!
let's try this again because I hate seeing fred upset.
Boatpoor, who thinks tourism would be hurt from a license increase?
Fred, I had an old friend that uses to say sometimes it’s better to sit there and look dumb than to open your mouth and confirm it.
After being released, a lot of fish die, but a lot of them live also.
As always its all about the money! A real fisherman would not gripe at doubleing the licence fee. The idiots we eleected to run this state th ink that an increse will hurt the tourisom. and realy don’t give rats A about the home boys! It take money to add feet on the ground not to mention, truck, boats, 4 wheelers. The wildlife commision should have more say in the running of this states resorces!
let's try this again because I hate seeing fred upset.
Boatpoor, who thinks tourism would be hurt from a license increase?
Fred, I had an old friend that uses to say sometimes it’s better to sit there and look dumb than to open your mouth and confirm it.
After being released, a lot of fish die, but a lot of them live also.
I’ve never hated you Fritz. Your too easy to upset. On the other hand I feel it is you that hate me. I’ve never pm’d you anything where as you have sent me a couple of hate messages. I hate kid touchers, thieves, rapists, liars, and people that don’t wash. I’ll bet you shower every night!
and remember it’s not just azzhat… it is Ignorant red neck azzhat:smiley:
By the way, I don’t think out of state license increases would hurt tourism one little bit.
The problem with that is thinking released fish die, do the recaptured tagged fish does also?
After being released, a lot of fish die, but a lot of them live also.
I don’t think some released fish die, I know some released fish die. What’s the problem with leaving a fish you can’t keep in the water to help ensure their safety?
The problem with that is thinking released fish die, do the recaptured tagged fish does also?
After being released, a lot of fish die, but a lot of them live also.
I don’t think some released fish die, I know some released fish die. What’s the problem with leaving a fish you can’t keep in the water to help ensure their safety?
14’ Carolina Skiff
19’ Sea Pro
Can’t get an up and personal photo op by doing this. The people paying for a charter want the fish in hand to show all their buddies on facebook.
On released fish, you even have in your signature that a lot do die. You know this to be true. Not all released fish make it. Many more die by people less informed than yourself and a few others on proper release technics and also using the right tackle to get em to the boat quick with minimal struggle. A true conservationist knows this to be true.
The problem with that is thinking released fish die, do the recaptured tagged fish does also?
After being released, a lot of fish die, but a lot of them live also.
I don’t think some released fish die, I know some released fish die. What’s the problem with leaving a fish you can’t keep in the water to help ensure their safety?
14’ Carolina Skiff
19’ Sea Pro
Can’t get an up and personal photo op by doing this. The people paying for a charter want the fish in hand to show all their buddies on facebook.
On released fish, you even have in your signature that a lot do die. You know this to be true. Not all released fish make it. Many more die by people less informed than yourself and a few others on proper release technics and also using the right tackle to get em to the boat quick with minimal struggle. A true conservationist knows this to be true.
So those of you saying “don’t take’em out of the water” believe that would help? You don’t think since it would be “illegal” that there would still be those out there looking for the “photo op” (that Fred hates oh so much) just because they’re not allowed to do it? It’s illegal to take Goliath Grouper out of the water yet Florida DNR write tickets on regular basis for people not obeying that regulation. And it’s a hell of a lot easier hauling a big bull redfish over the side for a photo op than a Goliath Grouper but people do it on a regular basis. For any number of reasons, some people want to catch the biggest of the big of any particular fish species and that isn’t going away any time soon, regardless of what some of you “conservationists” think. The “light tackle angler” is also a growing segment in the fishing industry, in freshwater and saltwater, and they’re not going away any time soon either.
Hey Fred, have you ever protested fly fishermen outside of Charleston Angler? I’ve seen those guy post pictures (the horror, I know) of customers with big bulls caught on a fly rod. I bet your skin crawls when you see such things. You’re kind of quirky, aren’t you? You bellow about people that collect data from deer fetus studies even though it’s been a proven practice by wildlife biologists for decades. You believe in a “full” rut, whatever that is. You don’t believe people should take fish from the water for photo ops. You believe people should use the heaviest tackle available to wench fish to the boat as opposed to play them out. I know I personally can’t think of anything more enjoyable than having a big green cobia thrashing around on the deck of the boat. You think people should only fish for dinner and not enjoyment and if a fish can’t be kept for dinner it shouldn’t be fished for at all. You’re just a bundle of joy.
I fish for fun and every now and then, that fun results in fish for dinner. I have no problem dragging the boat to the coast for a catch and release trip. I even take pictures (GASP!!) of
So those of you saying “don’t take’em out of the water” believe that would help?
“…be a man and PM me.”
I think it’s pretty obvious it would help, I certainly don’t see how it could hurt. Remember, this is just due to recent reports of cold water fish kills. It wouldn’t have to be in place long, depending on the severity of the recent kills.
At this point however, I don’t think it really matters. I have now seen many charter boats targeting and catching all the species that have been reported dead during the recent cold snap.
Local SC residents are left with 2 choices, let the charter boats profit off catching/killing our fish to give to tourist/whoever or go out against our good judgement and catch/kill them ourselves.
The dnr isn’t telling you not to fish for them, they are saying the numbers are down and its better for the fishery not to keep them. The he’s doing it I’m doing it attitude is a poor one. There are plenty of other options. Just practice and promote conservative fishing.
So those of you saying “don’t take’em out of the water” believe that would help? You don’t think since it would be “illegal” that there would still be those out there looking for the “photo op” (that Fred hates oh so much) just because they’re not allowed to do it? It’s illegal to take Goliath Grouper out of the water yet Florida DNR write tickets on regular basis for people not obeying that regulation. And it’s a hell of a lot easier hauling a big bull redfish over the side for a photo op than a Goliath Grouper but people do it on a regular basis. For any number of reasons, some people want to catch the biggest of the big of any particular fish species and that isn’t going away any time soon, regardless of what some of you “conservationists” think. The “light tackle angler” is also a growing segment in the fishing industry, in freshwater and saltwater, and they’re not going away any time soon either.
Hey Fred, have you ever protested fly fishermen outside of Charleston Angler? I’ve seen those guy post pictures (the horror, I know) of customers with big bulls caught on a fly rod. I bet your skin crawls when you see such things. You’re kind of quirky, aren’t you? You bellow about people that collect data from deer fetus studies even though it’s been a proven practice by wildlife biologists for decades. You believe in a “full” rut, whatever that is. You don’t believe people should take fish from the water for photo ops. You believe people should use the heaviest tackle available to wench fish to the boat as opposed to play them out. I know I personally can’t think of anything more enjoyable than having a big green cobia thrashing around on the deck of the boat. You think people should only fish for dinner and not enjoyment and if a fish can’t be kept for dinner it shouldn’t be fished for at all. You’re just a bundle of joy.
PM if you want to, it’s a free country. Just be manly about it. I do actually like Corn Flakes, with a light sprinkling of sugar. Hold the piss, please. Whether I believe anything Bolbie says is irrelevant. Deer fetus data has been a vital part of deer biology studies for decades yet you, whom I assume is not a wildlife biologist, try to discredit the practice. Granted, it’s probably only because Bolbie mentioned and I have to admit, it is pretty fun to get under his skin from time to time. For the record, I’ve never “proclaimed” myself to be anything. That said, I’ve heard of full strut, pre rut, rut, and post rut. I’ve heard seeking phase, chase phase and lock down. I’ve hunted from New york down to Florida and westward to Kansas and I have never heard an “outdoorsman” use the expression “full rut.”
PM if you want to, it’s a free country. Just be manly about it. I do actually like Corn Flakes, with a light sprinkling of sugar. Hold the piss, please. Whether I believe anything Bolbie says is irrelevant. Deer fetus data has been a vital part of deer biology studies for decades yet you, whom I assume is not a wildlife biologist, try to discredit the practice. Granted, it’s probably only because Bolbie mentioned and I have to admit, it is pretty fun to get under his skin from time to time. For the record, I’ve never “proclaimed” myself to be anything. That said, I’ve heard of full strut, pre rut, rut, and post rut</font id=“red”>. I’ve heard seeking phase, chase phase and lock down. I’ve hunted from New york down to Florida and westward to Kansas and I have never heard an “outdoorsman” use the expression “full rut.”
“…be a man and PM me.”
I’d never discredit the practice. I know it will tell you when a doe was bred. That’s a no brainer.
I’ve heard people use the term full rut for a long time and from many “outdoors” men. Just think of your above statement and put it between pre and post.
It’s all good. As long as you live and mingle with different people you’ll hear many different terms for the same thing.
I just googled full rut and it seems that others are using the term.Not that I have a dog in this fight,mine are used to chase deer,so the rut doesn’t matter to me.
I believe Fred when he says he uses it and he’s heard others use it. I’m saying I haven’t heard of it, as it pertains to phases of the rut. Granted, there are tons of hunting apparel companies, hunting accessory companies and hunting ranches using the term as a name of their product(s).
If reds 23" and above reproduce so many more eggs. Keeping fish up to 26" wouldn’t be a good idea. When I gig I don’t see a decrease in reds! They’re everywhere. You guys don’t see as many on flats could be because there is more pressure on them. The fish are in school, and learned to stay deeper in the day. Feed shallow at night.
Also, let’s increase creel limits to what we claim on our taxes. I work alot, and don’t have time to go as often. It would benefit me to load up, and be done. With flounder limits going to 20 a boat. We get our limit in a hour, and target reds and sheep. Try to make the most of only getting to go a few times a year.
I hate kid touchers, thieves, rapists, liars, and people that don’t wash. I’ll bet you shower every night! 