Pulling boat out of water w/o 4 wheel drive - help

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Originally posted by redfish4sure

Get a set of good A/T tires for the rear, run them with just under the max air pressure, take truck out of overdrive (especially when pulling to and from ramp), and load up the front of the boat with as much necessary gear as possible. Oh, and have full tank of gas in the truck. Your truck is more than capable of pulling the boat out. And where is Madere’s Landing?


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Yep, Madere’s Landing, right around dark on Tuesday of this week.

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Get some nitto terra grapplers, they are a little pricey but they are the best low profile tires, they will get you through anywhere and don’t make much noise.

172 Sea Hunt Triton
1500 key west sportsman

put it in low 1.
hold down brake pedal with left foot.
give it medium amount of gas with right foot.
ease up on left foot pressure until rig starts moving. if wheels start spinning apply gentle brake pressure while maintaining even pressure on gas pedal.
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Easy way to figure your tongue weight:
-Go to the CAT scale.
-Get your truck weighed by itself full fuel. Front axles on one pad and rear axles on another.
-Hook up the boat and weigh both together. Put your truck front axle on one rear axle on another and trailer axles on another. Subtract the difference. (Truck weight by itself - Truck weight with trailer)

When you do this you can also know how much weight comes off your front tires so you can judge how much tongue weight your truck is capable of. 50/50 front/rear axle weight distribution should be your upper limit.

Also. If you are doing a “one wheel peel” at the ramp use a little parking brake when pulling it up.

Looks to me, and I’m no expert, that the weight of the boat could be moved forward a few inches by moving the winch post a little. Try what Badhabit said. 2 foot driving in low gear. Pull out slowly. If you give it too much gas, you can break the tires loose. I have pulled a lot of boats with a 2wd Chevy. Just be easy on the throttle and let the momentum build slowly. You might lower the air pressure in the rear tires just a bit. 51 PSI sounds a bit high to me. What are the tires rated for? I run 45 PSI in mine and the tires say 47 max cold. A little under pressure will increase he surface area of the tire contacting the roadway. I usually run about 5 lbs under maximum PSI when pulling the boat.

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Originally posted by dreamin-on

Easy way to figure your tongue weight:
-Go to the CAT scale.
-Get your truck weighed by itself full fuel. Front axles on one pad and rear axles on another.
-Hook up the boat and weigh both together. Put your truck front axle on one rear axle on another and trailer axles on another. Subtract the difference. (Truck weight by itself - Truck weight with trailer)

When you do this you can also know how much weight comes off your front tires so you can judge how much tongue weight your truck is capable of. 50/50 front/rear axle weight distribution should be your upper limit.

Also. If you are doing a “one wheel peel” at the ramp use a little parking brake when pulling it up.


Speaking of one wheel peel, well, I think there was plastic burning on all the tires, but aft starboard wheel of truck had noticibly more peel than the rest…

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Originally posted by Bad Habit

put it in low 1.
hold down brake pedal with left foot.
give it medium amount of gas with right foot.
ease up on left foot pressure until rig starts moving. if wheels start spinning apply gentle brake pressure while maintaining even pressure on gas pedal.
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Heather,

I have pulled my 2350 Pursuit and now my 2486 Triton with a two wheel drive Ford Expedition for the last 10 years and have never had a problem spinning the tires. And my Triton loaded is about 7,000lbs plus the trailer. I have put in and out at most of the local ramps. What others have said about your left foot on the brake while you give it gas, is the way to go, and I always use 1st gear (low gear) on the automatic trans. I would question the using second gear as the stress/wear on the transmission would not be good. I have B F Goodrich m/s tires (no crazy tread, just all terrian tires)

I would check the tongue weight, and make sure it is at about 10% of the boat and trailer combined weight. The tongue weight adds alot of traction to the rear wheels. Does the trailer sway side to side at all when you are going straight down the road above 40 mph, if it does, that is caused by too little tongue weight. The 23 Palmetto dry weight is 3,600 lbs, then add about 850lbs for you engines, if the gas is full add (135*6) 810lbs (I think that boat holds 135 gals) so you are at about 5,300lbs plus gear plus the trailer, your tralier is probably about 850lbs, so say about 6,150 total or there abouts, so your tongue weight should be about 615 lbs.

Good luck.

I pull this with a two wheel drive…

Pursuitgang (RealTime)

2486 Triton w/twin Suzuki DF140s (RealTime)
1720 KeyWest 90 Johnson

Take badhabits advice. thats how I have always pulled boats up a ramp and have never even had a tire spin.

Three-fourths of the Earth’s surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.

tires… i run bfg at. i average 85000 miles and have no trouble pullin out my 25’ hardtop cabin. 2wd f250 w limited slip diff. try to not get the spin started. gentle with the throttle. i even launch my 18’ in the lake from the bank with no ramp without issue. u can get ur truck setup for sure a lot cheaper than u can trade! think about adding limited slip or even an electric locker like a lot of the yotas r comin with these days. good luck!

I started out with a 2004 dodge ram 2wd, 4.7L quad cab. I pulled my 21’ Keywest WA with no issues. I actually pulled my 38’ camper with it to Lake Hartwell last year. Never had any issues except for the fuel mileage that I got when I hooked it up. Like everyone else basically I would add more wait to the bed of the truck. I now have a GMC 3/4ton duramax and fuel issue is resolved.

I haven’t read most of the suggestions here, so forgive any duplication. I used to haul a 10,000 boat (wet trailer weight) with a Tahoe–no problems–so I’ll tell you what I think, Ms. Leman. I would first try–in this order–(a) riding the pedal to “feel” the traction and try to keep the tire slip under control, (b) using 2nd gear while pulling up the ramp if the tires lose traction too easily in 1st, (c) different ramps (can make a big difference for you), (d) putting a big cooler in your bed, filled with water or more sand bags (water weighs 8 lbs per gallon), (e) lowering tire pressure slightly, (f), buying better tires (not necessarily “nobbies”, but ones with more rubber on the road), (g) possibly, larger-diameter wheels (depending on what you have now), and last, but not least, (g) buying another truck (which you probably won’t have to do).

My guess is that you’ll do fine at the right ramp, in the right gear, with the right weight in the back.

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Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

P.S. Be careful letting strangers try to pull your boat out unless you have a pretty good reason to think he knows what he’s doing. You don’t want someone making a mistake and rolling your truck into the water with the boat and trailer. Seen it. No fun.

Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

I had same problem with my 97 F150 pulling my Pioneer 197SF after I went to Goodyear Wranglers But it didnt do it with Michelins LTX… Long story short I agree with the tire suggestions… I researched for tire with best wet traction in the size I wanted and I got a set of Cooper discovery AT3 and now even in the slime at low tide she bites and climbs right out. HTH

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So I made it from Mt P to old navy base in North Charleston in one piece… almost side swiped a couple vehicles…

When going up, on top of, and down bridges, and when I put on breaks or slowed down on 526, scary… the boat was in control, it was going from side to side, pushing the dodge around like it was nothing…

Uh oh… now what?

Tongue weight apparently too light…

I dread the return trip home… dreading it… not going to be fun… :roll_eyes::face_with_head_bandage::frowning_face:

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Tongue weight is wrong. I was going to suggest that as one of the last things you try, but what you just described, I look at it first and ASAP. That is a dangerous situation.

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That also sounds like trailer brakes are not working, or at least not properly adjusted.

Heather,
Side to side sway = definitely too little tongue weight.

Small world, I car pool with a guy who lives on your street, I noticed the 23 on your driveway.

Pursuitgang (RealTime)

2486 Triton w/twin Suzuki DF140s (RealTime)
1720 KeyWest 90 Johnson

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Originally posted by ladyshrimpkilla

So I made it from Mt P to old navy base in North Charleston in one piece… almost side swiped a couple vehicles…

When going up, on top of, and down bridges, and when I put on breaks or slowed down on 526, scary… the boat was in control, it was going from side to side, pushing the dodge around like it was nothing…

Uh oh… now what?

Tongue weight apparently too light…

I dread the return trip home… dreading it… not going to be fun… :roll_eyes::face_with_head_bandage::frowning_face:

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This post is probably moot at this point, since you posted that at noon, but it sounds like something’s definitely out of balance (tongue, etc.), unless you’ve just never towed a big boat before and aren’t used to it. If it’s as bad as you described, don’t chance it on the roads. It isn’t worth the hazard to you and others. If you can, pull into a parking lot, and get a friend with a beefier truck to come hitch it up and pull it home for you (I wouldn’t leave it there, though, because I got a trailer stolen by leaving it in the office parking lot once). I’ve had trailer (wheel/tire) problems on the road before, and I called a nearby dealership and dropped the boat off there once, and another time, I just pulled off on the side of the road and called a tow truck, who came and put the whole thing on a flatbed for me and towed it to a dealership.

Godspeed to you.

Safety first.

Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-10

I borrowered a power tool from one of the shops on the base and here is what I did.

Then, I had added two big coolers filled with water and another sand bag to bed of truck. Being the eve of cinco de mayo / kentucky derby / perigee moon, why not?

Not sure if I should do this but, after dunking the boat at a nearby landing to pull the boat up tight to the newly positioned wench, using BadHabit’s advice on breaks slowly letting off after putting down the led in 1st, I drove back to Mt. P in 2 gear with the overdrive on (good? don’t do it again? I don’t know…). Regardless, it worked, a little shakey, but not bad at all. I almost felt safe so even managed to squeeze in a few text messages on the ride back.

Anyhow, what do you think of my handiwork? I think I did a mighty fine job if I don’t say so myself… I just hope it doesn’t backfire.

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