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Originally posted by yellabird
As an FYI,
I have spoken with 3 different council members today. Regardless of your thoughts of those on the council, there are ways to improve our snapper situation that we can all agree on. For example, our modeling comes from the Beaufort NC NOAA Station while the FL and the Gulf’s come from the Miami Station. The Miami station uses a hook and line/captain’s choice sampling and modeling system, where the Beaufort Station uses Chevron traps. Obviously, the hook and line system produces older and often more samples than the chevron system. This seems to be a severe disadvantage for us in the South Atlantic. After my conversations with Council members today, I reached out to a number of my colleagues and Congressman Duncan has agreed to draft a letter requesting NOAA to check their South Atlantic Sampling with the Hook and Line Sampling and Modeling system. I will co-sign the letter as soon as we get it prepared. I’ll keep everyone up-to-date on anything that transpires.
Stephen Goldfinch
“Sleep When You’re Dead!”
thank you!
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quote:
Originally posted by yellabird
As an FYI,
I have spoken with 3 different council members today. Regardless of your thoughts of those on the council, there are ways to improve our snapper situation that we can all agree on. For example, our modeling comes from the Beaufort NC NOAA Station while the FL and the Gulf’s come from the Miami Station. The Miami station uses a hook and line/captain’s choice sampling and modeling system, where the Beaufort Station uses Chevron traps. Obviously, the hook and line system produces older and often more samples than the chevron system. This seems to be a severe disadvantage for us in the South Atlantic. After my conversations with Council members today, I reached out to a number of my colleagues and Congressman Duncan has agreed to draft a letter requesting NOAA to check their South Atlantic Sampling with the Hook and Line Sampling and Modeling system. I will co-sign the letter as soon as we get it prepared. I’ll keep everyone up-to-date on anything that transpires.
Stephen Goldfinch
“Sleep When You’re Dead!”
Thank you yellabird!
It seems like the bad data is driving these decisions, along with a few other factors. The council is bound by law to make decisions based on the best data available and making that data better is the only way to straighten this out. Its obvious to us anglers that the population is fine and its a hell of a nuisance. I think the SAFMC knows that. Every time I go to one of their meetings their representative gets ripped apart by fisherman, and his consistent response is “the data is THIS and we cannot change until it shows THIS”. Figure out the data issue, solve the problem.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on them resolving the data collection issues anytime soon…this has been going on for a long time. FYI chevron trap data covers Hatteras, NC to Port St. Lucie, FL…it has been going on since the 80’s as well. Give the power to the states the feds are inefficient and expensive.
It is also scheduled on the same weekend as the Fishing for miracles tournament. Time to drain that swamp as well.
Hanahan fishing club.
“If we ever forget that we’re
one nation under God,
we will be a nation gone under.” - Ronald Reagan
It’s the government, no matter what data they have they are going to do what they want. They can screw up anything. Any diver in sc will tell you and show you with video evidence that reds are thriving. Why don’t they send divers down. In the gulf their studies only looked at natural structures and ignores manmade ones. So they would look at a rock next to an oil rig, where do you think the fish were holding?
O don’t worry they have video data from every Chevron trap deployed. I may be wrong…but I believe the video data from the Chevron traps was part of the reason we got a season this year. As well as an increase in catch. Give the power to SCDNR f the feds.
The first season is on my birthday and I’ll be fishing the tourney so we’ll see how many snapper get put on the boat this year
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Originally posted by hydrotherapy
It is also scheduled on the same weekend as the Fishing for miracles tournament. Time to drain that swamp as well.
Hanahan fishing club.
“If we ever forget that we’re
one nation under God,
we will be a nation gone under.” - Ronald Reagan
235 scout sportfish
This is a good read regarding Florida’s intense data collection during the 2017 red snapper season and the resulting numbers.
“Over the nine days that the season was open, anglers fishing from private boats off the east coast of Florida harvested an estimated 5,390 Red Snapper and charter boat anglers harvested an estimated 898 Red Snapper.”
http://myfwc.com/research/saltwater/fishstats/recreational-fisheries/atlantic-results/
http://myfwc.com/media/4472293/atlanticredsnapperresults.pdf
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