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Zurik: ‘Snapper barons’ raking in riches from public resource
Monday, February 6th 2017, 11:10 pm EST
Tuesday, February 7th 2017, 11:58 am EST
Written by: Lee Zurik, Chief Investigative ReporterCONNECT
Contributor: Tom Wright, Investigative ProducerCONNECT

GRAND ISLE, LA (WVUE) -
On the tip of Louisiana’s coast, Dean Blanchard built his seafood business from nothing.

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“It’s what made America great, is hard-working, good people,” Blanchard says.

But, he tells us, a few miles away from Grand Isle - on waters owned by taxpayers - a multi-million-dollar government handout functions like the opposite of the capitalism that helps put food on his table.

“When Russia and China just let certain people do certain things, what do we call them? We call them communists. I mean, I don’t see no difference.”

Blanchard is criticizing a federal program, unknown to most taxpayers, that allows a handful of businesses and fishermen to make millions off a government resource - creating what some fishermen call “Lords of the Sea.”

Dean Blanchard

Blanchard says they “took a natural resource that belongs to everybody in the United States and just gave it to a few, and told them you’re the only ones who can do it.”

Each Gulf state controls the waters out to nine miles. Beyond that are federal waters, where this program comes into play.

In 2007, the government handed over shares of the annual red snapper commercial harvest to a select group of fishermen. The government divvied up the snapper shares; the number of shares was determined by the number of fish caught in prior years.

“Sea lords, snapper barons, whatever you want to call it - it’s people that are becoming enriched by sitting back and doing nothing off a public resource,” says U.S. Representative Garret Graves (R-Louisiana).

Unlike oil or timber, the government doesn’t auction off the shares and gets nothing in return from these fishermen.

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Originally posted by OVER THE LEDGE

“When Russia and China just let certain people do certain things, what do we call them? We call them communists. I mean, I don’t see no difference.”


I get why this guy is mad, and cannot say I disagree with why he’s mad, but I don’t think this guy quite understands the definition of “communism”.

And you have two councilmembers, Chris Conklin and Charlie Phillips who will both become shareholders if catch shares are implemented

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PROUD YANKEE

Oyster Baron

NMFS = No More Fishing Season

“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”

When the show Big Fish Texas was on the comment section of their Facebook page was better than the show itself.

Down here is where a signature goes but they can confuse and anger some people so I don’t have one.

I just got off the phone with SAFMC with questions about commercial fishing in federal waters off the South Carolina coast. They very politely informed me that to get a permit, I would have to buy someone else’s permit, starting at around $20,000, then I could get my own permit. They were very insistent that this is not catch shares. As explained to me, no new permits are being issued so the only way is to buy another guys permit. But it’s not “catch shares” since the pounds of fish you can catch is not limited by the permit, just that only a hand full of people control all the commercial fishing off SC and anyone else is not allowed to put their hand in the cookie jar. The horse left the barn in 1998 according to SAFMC.

Olde Man Charters
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According to safmc, no permits have been issued since 1998 and the starting cost is $20,000. First, I am quite confident many of those have died or no longer fish. Why should a party wanting to try the business be blackmailed into paying off someone for a permit to catch and sell a public resource. Sounds to me like protectionism and anti free market in the worst way, something Putin would would do. Stop competition and keep grouper at $16 a pound. Dirty business.

Olde Man Charters
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286 Seafox/Twin 300’s

Sulcataman, the problem with “open access” commercial permits is that on any given year probably 5-10K people would enter the fishery, all of the various quotas for the year would be caught in some number of weeks causing the price of fish to crash, and then there is no fishery for the remaining 10 months of the year. The following year, another 5 or 10K newbies do the same thing. Everyone goes broke.

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He is correct you have to buy two permits to obtain one. They have been doubling down since the 90s and still require two for one. At the end of oyster season this year I will be stepping aboard a commercial snapper boat that is permitted and will captain it until next oyster season for a very healthy percentage.

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PROUD YANKEE

Oyster Baron

NMFS = No More Fishing Season

“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”

quote:
Originally posted by Beaufort Boy

Sulcataman, the problem with “open access” commercial permits is that on any given year probably 5-10K people would enter the fishery, all of the various quotas for the year would be caught in some number of weeks causing the price of fish to crash, and then there is no fishery for the remaining 10 months of the year. The following year, another 5 or 10K newbies do the same thing. Everyone goes broke.

Sea Hunt 207CC,Yam F150
Carolina Skiff (old school model)17’ Suz D50


Why not have a lottery system for new permits?

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Originally posted by sellsfish

He is correct you have to buy two permits to obtain one. They have been doubling down since the 90s and still require two for one. At the end of oyster season this year I will be stepping aboard a commercial snapper boat that is permitted and will captain it until next oyster season for a very healthy percentage.

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PROUD YANKEE

Oyster Baron

NMFS = No More Fishing Season

“Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him”


No doubt, it anyone can get on the fish it will be you! Good luck. and I have not forgotten your garlic, maybe mid summer or fall I can meet up with you and give you some. Got a good stand coming up right now.

“If Bruce Jenner can keep his wiener and be called a woman, I can keep my firearms and be considered disarmed.”

The fact is most commercial fishermen in the South Atlantic are not full-time fishermen in any one fishery, but fish opportunistically part-time in a number of fisheries, including the for-hire sector.

They rely on a portfolio of fishing permits to diversify and minimize risk, just like an investment portfolio of stocks and bonds.

From a 2012 study by SAFMC scientist Kari MacLauchlin entitled “Permit portfolios of commercial fishermen in the U.S. South Atlantic Region”:

“It is uncommon in the South Atlantic region and in most other smaller scale commercial fisheries for a fisherman to harvest only one species, keep only one type of permit, and at times only work in one sector (commercial or recreational). Multi-fishery participation and a permit portfolio are similar to a financial portfolio in which the asset is the fish stock or access to the fishery. By maintaining a diversity of assets, in which some may have higher or lower risk and higher or lower potential return, can minimize overall risk while maximizing return. If something happens to one of the assets, there are other options to allow an individual’s fishing business to continue. For example a change in regulations may shorten a fishing season, in which case a diverse portfolio of fishing options will allow an individual to shift effort to another fishery or target species and maintain the fishing operation.

…Diversity in options for participation contributes to fishermen’s ability to respond to changes in the market (increase/decrease in price or demand), the environment (such as a severe weather event like a hurricane), access to a fish stock (e.g., closed areas or limited entry programs), and other internal and external factors that can affect the fishery.”

Click here for the study:
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/sustainablefishing/pages/21/attachments/original/1486934895/KMacLauchlin_GCFIPortfoliosSAtlantic.pdf?1486934895

These efforts to impose a commercial snapper-grouper catch share scheme are a blatant at

I agree with the lottery drawing for permits. I also believe the permit holder should be on the boat.
If I have a permit for shrimp baiting, I have to be in the boat.
If I have a permit for alligator, I have to be in the boat.
If I have any other licence to harvest an animal or fish, I must be at least present for the permit to be valid. Why is this any different? (rhetorical question)

218WA Sailfish
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The "Penn"sion Plan

Not sure how a lottery system could work, but the system now surely doesn’t work except for a select few people. The biggest issue I have is the owner of the permit not participating in the fishery. He should be “hands on”, In the boat, actively fishing or give the permit up so someone else could use it.
The other issue I have is passing the permit down to your heirs. This is not a piece of land or a house or some real property. It is a permit to harvest a resource that happens to be owned by you and I and at this point we are even being shut out of our opportunity to participate on a recreational level. If that doesn’t piss you off nothing will.

218WA Sailfish
200 Verado
The "Penn"sion Plan