Taco vs Rupps

I’ve got the 18’ telescoping Taco poles and our relationship just isn’t working out and I am considering a nasty breakup. They are pretty flimsy. I’ve severely bent a pole and replaced with a new pair, then, I broke one in half. Also, I feel like they bounce around a lot and when there is drag on the long rigger bait, it puts enough bend in the pole to slacken the halyards pretty awful. I feel like I get a lot of clip pop outs just from waves, etc because of the bouncy nature of the poles.

Anyone experiencing the same thing?

Preliminary research on the internet seems to indicate that I should take them to a recycling bin and go with fixed 15’ Rupps outrigger poles. Does anyone have any experience with these? Will they even fit into my Taco Grand Slam bases?

See if you can get a deal if you buy multiple sets! I have the 15’ taco’s. I don’t like mine so much either. I’m out there standing on the gunnel trying to get the silly little holes to line up. I finally get them locked in and start trolling. Then the bases start creeping back. Pretty soon the rigger is back at a 45 degree angle.

I’ve been thinking about the fixed poles as well but I will have to buy bases also if I can’t stop this creeeping.

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I have Taco Grand Slam 250 bases matched with Rupp 18Ft poles.

The original boat owner also did not like the Taco poles so he switched them out.

The Rupp poles may have been machined a bit (first foot or so sanded down a bit) but they fit well and stay lodged in rough seas even though there is no pin locking hole.

The poles themselves are fairly rigid with little play.

Southport 26cc Twin Yamaha 250’s

had the Taco telescope ones for 7 yrs.,they are extended all time.no problems at all.

the bases are excellent,once locked in,there is no creep whatsoever.I have beat them around pretty good,still work great.

Bolbie, what length do you have? I’ve heard the 15’ are much stronger than the 18’s.

Skinnee you heart set on the Telescoping ones?

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Originally posted by skinneej

Bolbie, what length do you have? I’ve heard the 15’ are much stronger than the 18’s.


I believe they are 15' in length.

I hate my Taco outriggers. They are flimsy and it’s hard to get the holes lined up. Some of the snaps for the holes won’t lock anymore and I have to put tape on the joints while I’m out there to keep them from sliding back in. Also, had one break off at the base last year and had to get it welded back on. The (**() things get tangled all to hell too when they aren’t extended all the way.

Let me know as well if you can get a deal on multiple sets of the Rupps.

268 Bluewater Key West
Twin 225 Yamahas

they do require a little maintenance,a good spray lubricant keeps all the springs in good shape,never had an issue with them.

I was skeptical,thought I would be changing them out sooner than later.they have proved me wrong.been on there at least 7 yrs.fully extended all the time,running wide open or tied up at the slip.

Skinee I went with 15 ft. Rupps fixed poles with Rupp Z30 bases. I love them so far, but not battle tested yet.

The bases are awesome–they have a handle you crank to deploy riggers, then lock in place.

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Skinnee, how in the world are you breaking those poles, man? I definitely noticed that my 18’ Tacos were pretty whippy, but they stood up to 60-mph running on the ocean without any problems for about 4 years. :smiley: No complaints (I probably don’t fish as often as you, though). No, I scratch that: I actually do have one complaint with the Tacos. The holders were a little odd in how they locked in when you set the elevation angle. The function of the handle was fine, but when you set the angle, the lock-in never really felt solid to me when I was tightening it in–like the pins jsut didn’t engage right or something–but they held up fine. for obvious reasons, I imagine 15’ poles are going to be a lot less flimsy than 18’s, but I never had a problem with the 18’ poles.

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Again, I can vent enough about the problems that I’ve had with my Tacos. For those of you that haven’t had problems, what method do you use when the poles are not extended to keep the lines from getting tangled??

I have been wrapping bungee cords around them to keep all the lines together, but the clips and cork balls always get tangled and I spend 15 minutes on the next trip out untangling before we can fish.

This is another problem that fixed poles would solve for me.

268 Bluewater Key West
Twin 225 Yamahas

“what method do you use when the poles are not extended to keep the lines from getting tangled??”

I left mine extended most of the time, but when I collapsed them, I just was real careful with the line. Sometimes, I would spin it onto the poles. It just wasn’t a problem for me for some reason.

“I have been wrapping bungee cords around them to keep all the lines together, but the clips and cork balls always get tangled and I spend 15 minutes on the next trip out untangling before we can fish.”

Well, that’s part of it: I didn’t collapse mine every trip.

“This is another problem that fixed poles would solve for me.”

Or, you could just not collapse the poles you have. You don’t have to collapse them. I rarely did, but it’s nice to be able to. If you get solid poles, you won’t be able to collapse them, obviously, so, if your main complaint is the lines getting tangled when you collapse the riggers, why not just stop collapsing the ones you have, and save the money? Another thing you could do, if you want to collapse them, is, maybe, get a leader roll and roll the line onto it and fasten it with velcro tie wraps. As for me, I just spun mine on the poles, and it did OK, but again, I rarely collapsed them anyway.

One more thing: it sounds like maybe you’re using nylon/rope for rigger line. If you use 400# monofilament, you may have less tangle problems. That’s what I used when I went to the collapsables. It does build memory, shrink, and discolor after a while, though, while the nylon rots and frays.

Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance, Inc.
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

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Once I moved to the grand slams as opposed to the sport slams, I’ve been really pleased. I have the 15’ poles and I have put them through a beating offsore. Let’s hope they continue to hold up…

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Originally posted by gordosworld

Skinnee you heart set on the Telescoping ones?

Grady White 300 Marlin with F225’s

“When we going fishing?!”


Negative. I just want something sturdy that doesn't bend or break!

I thought catamarans did not slam, pound or bounce?

:stuck_out_tongue:

I’m assuming you have 1.5" bases. If you go down to 15’, you will not have as much whipping action on the poles…
Less weight and length. It’s the same concept as with a cane pole vs a broomstick. Yes you can get a stouter cane pole, but what does that usually mean? Greater diameter.

Changing brand to Rupp is not going to do much for you if you’re sticking with 1.5" poles and 18’ length, IMO. To get sturdier you will have to go with thicker diameter lees or CJ’s, etc. that are considerably heavier and possibly need spreader cables (fixed, not telescoping).


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On the holes lining up on tele riggers- I just got a set of Tigress poles that have the sliding track. “Never miss the hole” they say. Skinnee ought to like that one. But I have quickly learned that you can miss the hole not radially but vertically- you can go too far (just a few inches)… skinnee can insert appropriate remark here.

I have read some folks putting Tigress riggers down for corrosion issues and going with Taco’s instead. I have heard of and seen too many Taco’s broken or the spring buttons screwing up (another Skinnee remark may follow that statement also), so I thought I’d try the Tigress telescoping. Have not fished them yet, but they seem to be decently made. Will report back after putting some miles on them.

Oh, and the answer to corrosion issues is hopefully Woody Wax and proper rinsing after trips. We shall see.


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I still haven’t found a solution for my bases creeping back. They are the Taco top mounted ones. In other words I don’t have a mounting bracket. They are through bolted to the t top frame. I thought the cogs that the pin catches in might be worn so I swapped the bases from left to right essentially reversing the base and using brand new cogs. They still creep. I have to use real light lures and never in rough water.

Cape Horn 24OS
twin 150 Optimax

I don’t want to be rich,
I just want 1 dollar more than I can spend!

Skintnee, you ever thought of changing outrigger clips,or lower the angle of the rigger?